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Old 11th January 2011   #1
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Steven Slate Drums 4.0

I had not heard anything about this, then I saw an ad in the current Sound on Sound magazine. This will be announced at Namm, from what I can see.

Over on the Slate Forums, someone posted a link to a scan from the magazine that gives some info:

http://img51.xooimage.com/files/c/d/b/ssd4-23c2297.jpg

There is no info on the website yet.

This looks like it will be interesting!
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Me too! I don't really rate ssd drums at all, BFD2 and addictive drums are much more versatile. I do use them for drums replacement the odd time but never as a standalone kit. I hope Ssd 4 delivers
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Hopefully they will offer some kind of upgrade for Trigger Platinum users.
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Hopefully they won't be using Kontakt.

Although I love Kontakt and everything it comes with, I just find the mixer very "un" user-friendly.

Here's hoping SSD 4.0 will be standalone. If not, no biggie, I'll still buy it!
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Although I love Kontakt and everything it comes with, I just find the mixer very "un" user-friendly.
apologies if i'm assuming you dont know this already but you know you can just lay all the outputs out across your desk or DAW mixer?
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I love how Kontakt works with SSD. I purchased the full version of Kontakt because of SSD. The Midi timing is amazing. separate outs makes it super easy to record down the tracks.
I could not work without SSD in Kontakt 4.stike
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According to the news from MusicRadar :

STEVEN SLATE DRUMS 4.0 adds many new drum kits and features, and does so in a new custom built Slate Digital drum sampler (RTAS, VST, AU).

That's great news actually ! Can't wait to see/hear more.

NAMM 2011: Steven Slate Drums 4.0 announced | MusicRadar.com
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So do Slate Drum users get a discount?
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So do Slate Drum users get a discount?
I'm sure there will be some kind of upgrade path from 3.5 or something. Always has been.
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I actually hate the idea of another rompler just to play someone's sounds. Kontakt is perfectly fine or Slate should just release his stuff in the Superior format.
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At least this time they'll release some unprocessed kits. Even with the room mics off, everything shortened, SSD are too ambient, tail-y, and processed to be truly versatile. I only bought them two months ago and haven't used a sound yet, too bad I'll have to pay for an upgrade.
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Kontakt + eDrums != good

BFD2 and SD2 perform head and shoulders above Kontakt with eDrums. For this reason only, I welcome anything other than Kontakt as long as it works with eDrums.
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why?

Even though I love what Slate is doing, why release something "new" when SD2 and BFD are the top of the crop!
Why not create an expansion pack for those and be done with it? (Barresi?) surely the market is there already! an expansion pack is way easier to sell than a brand new software (eliminating first generation bugs and all that goes with new software releases)

I'm NOT buying a new drum software when I have the current best and can expand on it already.
Even if the new SSD had a couple features improved over SD2, like say the ability to have separate control for the ride and such (as opposed to being overheads only), but it's still not what would make me switch formats.

Steven, honest question: what made you think you'd be better off creating a new drumming software from scratch rather then an (or several) expansion pack for the current offerings?
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Even though I love what Slate is doing, why release something "new" when SD2 and BFD are the top of the crop!
Why not create an expansion pack for those and be done with it? (Barresi?) surely the market is there already! an expansion pack is way easier to sell than a brand new software (eliminating first generation bugs and all that goes with new software releases)

I'm NOT buying a new drum software when I have the current best and can expand on it already.
Even if the new SSD had a couple features improved over SD2, like say the ability to have separate control for the ride and such (as opposed to being overheads only), but it's still not what would make me switch format.

Steven, honest question: what made you think you'd be better off creating a new drumming software from scratch rather then an (or several) expansion pack for the current offerings?
It's probably to with the license fees they are charged. Native Instruments have a fee and I believe Toontrack charge 10/15k to use the Superior format. Still I would think it would be more expensive to make you own comparable player.
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I don't use them as much as BFD2 because of the Kontakt player...I hate the Kontakt player.
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I actually hate the idea of another rompler just to play someone's sounds. Kontakt is perfectly fine or Slate should just release his stuff in the Superior format.
Well, IMHO Superior, be it version 1 or 2 is one of the lass usable tool for virtual drums. Sounds not as natural as the BDF2 kits that are more versatile by far.
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Well, IMHO Superior, be it version 1 or 2 is one of the lass usable tool for virtual drums. Sounds not as natural as the BDF2 kits that are more versatile by far.
e! well, I beg to differ; SD2 has set the bar pretty high :-)
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I also vote for a standalone interface like Superior. Kontackt is o.k., but setting up the multi outs is a pain compared to Superior. I do like the sound of SSD but think that Superior is also a great product. I've pretty much stopped using Strike, Drumcore and some of the other stuff around here.
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Purchased the original SSD years ago during the promo...hoping for my free upgrade
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Purchased the original SSD years ago during the promo...hoping for my free upgrade

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free upgrade from ssd3 to ssd4 ?
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Steven, honest question: what made you think you'd be better off creating a new drumming software from scratch rather then an (or several) expansion pack for the current offerings?
IMHO, Trigger and FGX are two great examples where Slate Digital took a product that already existed and made it 10X better. I've always been annoyed with Kontakt's interface and routing and there isn't a doubt in my mind that the Slate team will do an awesome job building their own sampler/interface.
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free upgrade from ssd3 to ssd4 ?
I bought SSD back in the very early days when he offered free upgrades for life. Hopefully that will continue into version 4.
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I bought SSD back in the very early days when he offered free upgrades for life. Hopefully that will continue into version 4.
ditto yep
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SWEEET! No more Kontakt! That is very good news indeed.
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SWEEET! No more Kontakt! That is very good news indeed.
Where are you getting this info?

Edit: found it. http://www.musicradar.com/news/tech/...nounced-358177
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Slate Digital drum sampler???.....Not iLok only PLEASE!!!!!!!!!! I would like to upgrade from SSD 3 platinum as I'm looking forward to unprocessed samples
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