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5th January 2011
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Hi everyone, I'm looking for a solid interface to minimize any mouse work...
Now since there's plenty of options out there I'd like to hear your thoughts.

I use a lot of virtual instruments and plugin effects, so I need something that immediately recognizes and displays all parameters without having to map anything manually...

Also I'd prefer if it would show only the current window parameters: ex. I'm looking at the DAW mixer, Iwant the surface to show only mixer parameters: vol, pan sends etc... I'm looking at a compressor, I only see the compressor parameters etc... to avoid making confusion...

Apparently the EuCon MC Control behaves like this but I use pro tools and I heard there's no compatibility with third party plugins...
Also looking at makies, though they seem to show more parameters then what you're actually looking at...ex: if on a channel I have a compressor and an EQ it shows parameters from both at the same time...

At the end of the day if there isn't something just the way I want it I guess I'll go for a makie, for compatibility. One question I had was this, if I get a makie control (the one with the faders and trasport) does it allow me to edit third party plugin parameters right away (no manual mapping etc)? I know their C4 controller with the 32 knobs does it so I guess it should...

So what do you guys suggest? Budget is around 1500

SN: Looking on the avid website apparently they introduced EuCon system in pro tools 9 so issues with the Mc Control should be over... any one tried this?
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I recommend getting 2 controllers, one for plugins (especially for virtual instruments) and the other for DAW/transport control


Novation products and their automap software are great for controlling plugins, there are default mappings for most plugs or it maps all the controls on with a new plug, then its easy to change the mappings yourself and their saved (for any other DAW you use too).


Then a DAW/transport controller etc like a Mackie or the other options

A controller that does both is possible with either but its generally kinda sucky i.e. soft synths are hell on a mackie but transport and general daw and plugins like EQ/Comp are great.

automap immediately adapts when you open up a plugins window its great. Novation products (I own the nocturn) can do DAW control via HUI etc but its not as great as something with motorised faders and always feels a little clumsy and not quite logical for that purpose.

Anyway thats my 2cents and the way I've setup my project studio
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I recommend getting 2 controllers, one for plugins (especially for virtual instruments) and the other for DAW/transport control


Novation products and their automap software are great for controlling plugins, there are default mappings for most plugs or it maps all the controls on with a new plug, then its easy to change the mappings yourself and their saved (for any other DAW you use too).


Then a DAW/transport controller etc like a Mackie or the other options

A controller that does both is possible with either but its generally kinda sucky i.e. soft synths are hell on a mackie but transport and general daw and plugins like EQ/Comp are great.

automap immediately adapts when you open up a plugins window its great. Novation products (I own the nocturn) can do DAW control via HUI etc but its not as great as something with motorised faders and always feels a little clumsy and not quite logical for that purpose.

Anyway thats my 2cents and the way I've setup my project studio
I defenately have to check out novations, however I'm still tingling about this mc control from euphonix, I'm considering getting pro tools 9 if it's fully compatible now... I'd have to try it first though before dropping all that cash... has anyone tried the MC control with PT 9 yet?
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Just switched from a Axiom to a Novation SL for controlling the Virtual synths and plug-ins, for the DAW I am using the Tascam FW-1082 unit, and really like it a lot. At less than $300 used it was a steal!

I have not found a keyboard controller that can handle the mixing, short faders suck! Go for at least 80mm throw, motorized if possible for the DAW control of mixing.
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I recommend getting 2 controllers, one for plugins (especially for virtual instruments) and the other for DAW/transport control


Novation products and their automap software are great for controlling plugins, there are default mappings for most plugs or it maps all the controls on with a new plug, then its easy to change the mappings yourself and their saved (for any other DAW you use too).


Then a DAW/transport controller etc like a Mackie or the other options

A controller that does both is possible with either but its generally kinda sucky i.e. soft synths are hell on a mackie but transport and general daw and plugins like EQ/Comp are great.

automap immediately adapts when you open up a plugins window its great. Novation products (I own the nocturn) can do DAW control via HUI etc but its not as great as something with motorised faders and always feels a little clumsy and not quite logical for that purpose.

Anyway thats my 2cents and the way I've setup my project studio
That makes a lot of sense to me.
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Hi everyone, I'm looking for a solid interface to minimize any mouse work...
Now since there's plenty of options out there I'd like to hear your thoughts.

I use a lot of virtual instruments and plugin effects, so I need something that immediately recognizes and displays all parameters without having to map anything manually...

Also I'd prefer if it would show only the current window parameters: ex. I'm looking at the DAW mixer, Iwant the surface to show only mixer parameters: vol, pan sends etc... I'm looking at a compressor, I only see the compressor parameters etc... to avoid making confusion...

Apparently the EuCon MC Control behaves like this but I use pro tools and I heard there's no compatibility with third party plugins...
Also looking at makies, though they seem to show more parameters then what you're actually looking at...ex: if on a channel I have a compressor and an EQ it shows parameters from both at the same time...

At the end of the day if there isn't something just the way I want it I guess I'll go for a makie, for compatibility. One question I had was this, if I get a makie control (the one with the faders and trasport) does it allow me to edit third party plugin parameters right away (no manual mapping etc)? I know their C4 controller with the 32 knobs does it so I guess it should...

So what do you guys suggest? Budget is around 1500

SN: Looking on the avid website apparently they introduced EuCon system in pro tools 9 so issues with the Mc Control should be over... any one tried this?
Paraphrase:

I would like to fly to the moon. While doing so, I would like to receive fellatio from Natalie Portman, while eating marshmellow flavored hotdogs.

My budget is $1500.
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