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Old 25th January 2006   #1
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Ok, I know nothing about MIDI and have been very anti-loops and MIDI(aren't most guitarists?) but lately my opinion has been changing. A lot of my favorite bands or producers incorporate little loops and electronic beats into their songs so I think I should try to too.

So how do you guys do it? I know nothing about drums and can't play them on a keyboard to save my life. Yesterday I recorded this woman who wanted some electronic drums on her song, but neither of us can play drums at all so we went through the drum kits on my Motif ES8 and simply recorded the arpeggiated beats. BUT the tempos can't be changed to perfect increments so while we recorded the piano at 152bpm, the beat we wanted only went to 151 or 153.

I would like to get some loops that I can use to play along with on guitar. Regular 5 piece kits and techno kits would be cool. Can you just buy loops and import them to your sequencer(Im using Pro Tools LE) onto a MIDI track? Or what? And when you buy loops, how do you guys manipulate them to make it how you want? Thanks!
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get a demo from someone who knows it, and go nuts.

Or hit up a good drummer for some remote tracks!
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I've been looking at a bunch of demos and videos and everything seems so overly complicated. Abelton and Reason both looked cool but I just read some posts about Reason having shoddy sound quality.

I just want a program where I can create and edit loops. This would include slicing up premade loops, creating new loops, and altering the tempos without artifacts. This is just something so I can get a demo of some drum sounds to help the structure of my songs, help my rhythmically, and to give a drummer an idea what to do. I don't care about extra processing, I have enough plug-ins in Pro Tools.
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Have you tried Acid? It's very fast and easy.
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Just get stylus RMX and call it a day. It will do everything you want.
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Just get stylus RMX and call it a day. It will do everything you want.
co-sign..i dont own it but play with it everytime i get the chance to at friens! its loop manipulation HEAVEN
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Just get stylus RMX and call it a day. It will do everything you want.
Yeah, it's a superb tool, and buy a copy of recycle
http://www.propellerheads.se/index.cfm
then you can mangle your own Loops, cause the factorysounds of RMX can be heard EVERYWHERE

Another possibilty is
http://www.glaresoft.com/products/phatmatikpro/

Very good to work really quick !
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I have a high quality live drum loop library at http://mikevecchionemusic.bandcamp.com/. Its free right now! Check it out. Also there are other free loops at my soundcloud site.
https://soundcloud.com/mikevecchionemusic

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Ok, I know nothing about MIDI and have been very anti-loops and MIDI(aren't most guitarists?) but lately my opinion has been changing. A lot of my favorite bands or producers incorporate little loops and electronic beats into their songs so I think I should try to too.

So how do you guys do it? I know nothing about drums and can't play them on a keyboard to save my life. Yesterday I recorded this woman who wanted some electronic drums on her song, but neither of us can play drums at all so we went through the drum kits on my Motif ES8 and simply recorded the arpeggiated beats. BUT the tempos can't be changed to perfect increments so while we recorded the piano at 152bpm, the beat we wanted only went to 151 or 153.

I would like to get some loops that I can use to play along with on guitar. Regular 5 piece kits and techno kits would be cool. Can you just buy loops and import them to your sequencer(Im using Pro Tools LE) onto a MIDI track? Or what? And when you buy loops, how do you guys manipulate them to make it how you want? Thanks!
There's two types of loops, audio and midi.
With audio loops you just put it into your DAW (Pro Tools LE) and away you go.
With midi loops, you can put into your DAW (Pro Tools LE) but you'll need to load a drum kit instrument on that instrument track. I don't know Pro Tools LE but if it doesn't have a drum kit, you need to get one otherwise that midi loop isn't going to do much good.

As far as getting midi loops for drums, just google "midi songs" and most songs have drums, when you bring that midi song into your DAW, just delete all the other midi tracks and keep the drum track to do what you want with it.
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pro tools is enough to make loops...ableton is loop based ( and fun) , but if you want to record or use loops any DAW is good
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