Drum loops

Hope209 · 25th January 2006, 09:21 PM

Ok, I know nothing about MIDI and have been very anti-loops and MIDI(aren't most guitarists?) but lately my opinion has been changing. A lot of my favorite bands or producers incorporate little loops and electronic beats into their songs so I think I should try to too.

So how do you guys do it? I know nothing about drums and can't play them on a keyboard to save my life. Yesterday I recorded this woman who wanted some electronic drums on her song, but neither of us can play drums at all so we went through the drum kits on my Motif ES8 and simply recorded the arpeggiated beats. BUT the tempos can't be changed to perfect increments so while we recorded the piano at 152bpm, the beat we wanted only went to 151 or 153.

I would like to get some loops that I can use to play along with on guitar. Regular 5 piece kits and techno kits would be cool. Can you just buy loops and import them to your sequencer(Im using Pro Tools LE) onto a MIDI track? Or what? And when you buy loops, how do you guys manipulate them to make it how you want? Thanks!

cajonezzz · 26th January 2006, 01:22 AM

Ableton Live baby.

get a demo from someone who knows it, and go nuts.

Or hit up a good drummer for some remote tracks!

Hope209 · 26th January 2006, 03:52 AM

I've been looking at a bunch of demos and videos and everything seems so overly complicated. Abelton and Reason both looked cool but I just read some posts about Reason having shoddy sound quality.

I just want a program where I can create and edit loops. This would include slicing up premade loops, creating new loops, and altering the tempos without artifacts. This is just something so I can get a demo of some drum sounds to help the structure of my songs, help my rhythmically, and to give a drummer an idea what to do. I don't care about extra processing, I have enough plug-ins in Pro Tools.

Hope209 · 27th January 2006, 07:49 AM

Any other suggestions?

h2000 · 27th January 2006, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Hope209

Any other suggestions?

Have you tried Acid? It's very fast and easy.

djbrough · 27th January 2006, 02:47 PM

Just get stylus RMX and call it a day. It will do everything you want.

Sirocco · 27th January 2006, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djbrough

Just get stylus RMX and call it a day. It will do everything you want.

co-sign..i dont own it but play with it everytime i get the chance to at friens! its loop manipulation HEAVEN

kosi · 27th January 2006, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djbrough

Just get stylus RMX and call it a day. It will do everything you want.

Yeah, it's a superb tool, and buy a copy of recycle
http://www.propellerheads.se/index.cfm
then you can mangle your own Loops, cause the factorysounds of RMX can be heard EVERYWHERE

Another possibilty is
http://www.glaresoft.com/products/phatmatikpro/

Very good to work really quick !

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25th January 2006, 09:21 PM	#1
Hope209 Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 592	Drum loops Ok, I know nothing about MIDI and have been very anti-loops and MIDI(aren't most guitarists?) but lately my opinion has been changing. A lot of my favorite bands or producers incorporate little loops and electronic beats into their songs so I think I should try to too. So how do you guys do it? I know nothing about drums and can't play them on a keyboard to save my life. Yesterday I recorded this woman who wanted some electronic drums on her song, but neither of us can play drums at all so we went through the drum kits on my Motif ES8 and simply recorded the arpeggiated beats. BUT the tempos can't be changed to perfect increments so while we recorded the piano at 152bpm, the beat we wanted only went to 151 or 153. I would like to get some loops that I can use to play along with on guitar. Regular 5 piece kits and techno kits would be cool. Can you just buy loops and import them to your sequencer(Im using Pro Tools LE) onto a MIDI track? Or what? And when you buy loops, how do you guys manipulate them to make it how you want? Thanks!

26th January 2006, 01:22 AM	#2
cajonezzz Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Carlsbad Ca. Posts: 1,722	Ableton Live baby. get a demo from someone who knows it, and go nuts. Or hit up a good drummer for some remote tracks! __________________ Craig Zarkos http://www.myspace.com/cajonezzz http://tybridroom.com/ z-orama TourstopLIVE! Calavera Proving Grounds (record & ride!) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Watch your thoughts, for they become words. Watch your words, for they become actions. Watch your actions, for they become habits. Watch your habits, for they become character. Watch your character, for it becomes your destiny.

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26th January 2006, 03:52 AM	#3
Hope209 Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 592	I've been looking at a bunch of demos and videos and everything seems so overly complicated. Abelton and Reason both looked cool but I just read some posts about Reason having shoddy sound quality. I just want a program where I can create and edit loops. This would include slicing up premade loops, creating new loops, and altering the tempos without artifacts. This is just something so I can get a demo of some drum sounds to help the structure of my songs, help my rhythmically, and to give a drummer an idea what to do. I don't care about extra processing, I have enough plug-ins in Pro Tools.

27th January 2006, 07:49 AM	#4
Hope209 Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 592	Any other suggestions?

27th January 2006, 02:47 PM	#6
djbrough Gear addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 351	Just get stylus RMX and call it a day. It will do everything you want.