Slate VCC (in-use discussion)

[scalawag]

According to Slate's Facebook page, they are testing the sixth console right now!!

[cpu28]

Originally Posted by scalawag

According to Slate's Facebook page, they are testing the sixth console right now!!

Sounds awesome. Hopefully its also free for owners of VCC like the Tube-RC was.

I could really use more consoles models as I find little use for the console emulations other than the trident and tube rc.

[Pedro Blanco]

according to steven, it will be a free update Now i'm wondering which console it will be...

[superjimmer]

Helios? Quad Eight? Spectra Sonics? A modern one? Super exciting!

[Bender412]

Behringer Eurodesk MX9000!

[superjimmer]

Originally Posted by Bender412

Behringer Eurodesk MX9000!

THAT would be awesome!

[tombuur]

The original promise was for six consoles when we bought VCC in the prerelase phase. The last two consoles were to be tube and "modern". Had never imagined it would take this long before we got them all. But nevermind I almost alway use the SSL anyway.

[serstickman]

FYI: RC-Tube plugin crashes Studio One 2.5 when you add it to any bus track.

[hct]

Originally Posted by serstickman

FYI: RC-Tube plugin crashes Studio One 2.5 when you add it to any bus track.

Mac or PC? If Mac, then try to use AU version. VST version of full VCC crashed often for me as well (with Studio One 2.0.7 at least), but AU has been stable.

[SCDBM]

Originally Posted by Bender412

Behringer Eurodesk MX9000!

That would be the first time a plugin is more expensive than the hardware unit it tries to emulate

[doom64]

The final console is supposed to be based on Steven's Neotek which you've probably seen in the Slate Digital YouTube videos. I think its sound is a combination of an API and SSL.

[Bob Olhsson]

John Windt, Motown's former shop foreman, had a reputation for modifications to Neoteks that sounded better than API or SSL. I wonder if this is one of his?

[NBarnes21]

just got the vcc vtm bundle during the cyber monday sale- so far it's seeming like a game changer for me. Done 2 mixes with them and am really happy with how it's sounding. VCC is definitely subtle, I find myself turning up the drive quite a bit on some channels, but coupled with VTM it's really gelling things together for me.

[barrythave]

Originally Posted by SCDBM

That would be the first time a plugin is more expensive than the hardware unit it tries to emulate

hahahhahahahha, nice

[EIDERDOWN]

Originally Posted by Pedro Blanco

according to steven, it will be a free update

That's tight if they offer this for free, such a legit company!

This new desk talk is exciting, especially considering I use all 5 more or less equally.

[axxessdenied]

Recently purchased SSD4 and VCC. I love both products! I'm new to recording but I feel like I made a great choice investing in these two products!

[Leevi]

Hey lads!

What do you think about the future consoles? I would like to see Harrison modeled. I wonder are they gonna model more than six in the future? Hopefully at least an expansion?

[GPl]

Originally Posted by Leevi

Hey lads!

What do you think about the future consoles? I would like to see Harrison modeled. I wonder are they gonna model more than six in the future? Hopefully at least an expansion?

It's been over a year and nothing. Don't think it is happening...

[Leevi]

But I would imagine it might be quite easy to add new desks to the existing plugin.

[fooman]

"quite easy" still requires development of that particular desk.
Time is money, and since we are all expecting this desk for free, they are being charitable if they give us any new desks IMHO.

I'm not putting words into anyone's mouth, but I think that some people online under-estimate the time and effort it takes to make quality updates on quality products.

[Leevi]

Originally Posted by fooman

"quite easy" still requires development of that particular desk.
Time is money, and since we are all expecting this desk for free, they are being charitable if they give us any new desks IMHO.

I'm not putting words into anyone's mouth, but I think that some people online under-estimate the time and effort it takes to make quality updates on quality products.

Well, so far they have modeled already five consoles and I would imagine that the process would not be too different for Harrison or some other console.

Of course I understand that everything takes time and for me some fee for a quality new desk is not a big thing. Im sure that there would be many folks ready to pay for new desks.

For example to the new users new desks could cost about 50 bucks and for VCC owners 25.

[Audio Child]

Im sure it was mentioned in another thread that their will be more desks added down the line!

[findingtheSound]

Steven said hours ago in gear shootout thread that they tested an SSL 4K E, which have a different sound than the G already modeled.
I can't wait to try it since that's THE desk I really wanted.
So, any Realease date?

[Leevi]

Originally Posted by findingtheSound

Steven said hours ago in gear shootout thread that they tested an SSL 4K E, which have a different sound than the G already modeled.
I can't wait to try it since that's THE desk I really wanted.
So, any Realease date?

Wow, sounds great! Thanks for telling this!

[fooman]

Originally Posted by Leevi

Well, so far they have modeled already five consoles and I would imagine that the process would not be too different for Harrison or some other console.

Of course I understand that everything takes time and for me some fee for a quality new desk is not a big thing. Im sure that there would be many folks ready to pay for new desks.

For example to the new users new desks could cost about 50 bucks and for VCC owners 25.

I am not attacking you personally by any means, I just take a bit of offense to the whole "should be easy cause you already did something similar" argument.

I'm a developer, and it seems that no matter how well thought-out you have a project and how well-executed it is, things aren't every really as easy as they should be in your mind. Sometimes they are, or easier, but more often than not you have to test and test and test, which is what takes the most time. Making things is easy, but testing them and making sure they live up to a standard is what takes time.

This world of "instant now" is insane! Let the company do it's thing, and when it's ready we can all open our wallets (or not, if they feel like being charitable).

[Leevi]

Originally Posted by fooman

This world of "instant now" is insane! Let the company do it's thing, and when it's ready we can all open our wallets (or not, if they feel like being charitable).

I dont know if you are talking about VCC, but there are not anything instant about releasing new consoles for VCC:

Originally Posted by GPl

It's been over a year and nothing. Don't think it is happening...

- - - - - - - - - - - -

I just hope that even thought they are releasing new products(VBC), they also keep updating and developing the old products.

[EIDERDOWN]

Originally Posted by findingtheSound

Steven said hours ago in gear shootout thread that they tested an SSL 4K E, which have a different sound than the G already modeled.

That's tight; hope the release is soon

[fooman]

Originally Posted by Leevi

I dont know if you are talking about VCC, but there are not anything instant about releasing new consoles for VCC:

I was more just venting about how a lot of people online question about release dates when the devs are probably testing... to make sure that when the plugin is released, the posts don't turn to "your plug has bugs and sucks. You shoulda spent more time on it."

I just find it weird that people are expecting them to release things "now" cause it's "quite easy" in their eyes.

I've never developed a plugin, or modeled a vintage desk... so I am not gonna be saying that it's easy haha. Maybe you have experience with this. Each desk may or may not be modeled a bit differently and require more/less personnel to work with. Maybe more money to rent, borrow in order to model it. I dunno. But easy is never a reality with quality work.

[Leevi]

Originally Posted by fooman

I just find it weird that people are expecting them to release things "now" cause it's "quite easy" in their eyes.

How many years should we wait? It's not like you need to create some totally new plugin like VTM or VBC.

Probably everyone understands that testing and developing takes time, maybe Slate itself isn't familiar with Harrison(just an example because popular console back then). As you said, there can be many reasons.

[kgdrum_nyc]

Originally Posted by Leevi

How many years should we wait? It's not like you need to create some totally new plugin like VTM or VBC.

Probably everyone understands that testing and developing takes time, maybe Slate itself isn't familiar with Harrison(just an example because popular console back then). As you said, there can be many reasons.

Leevi,
Like Fooman,
I'm not jumping on you personally but you keep saying how easy this is now to make another model,what makes you think the process is easy since they've already done this before?
It's not as simple as changing eq curves, the process involved to model a desk is much more complicated than most of us can understand and I'm sure each desk brings its own can of worms to get through if your actually doing a model.

More importantly this sense of entitlement is IMO way over the line.
Slate Digital already gave us VCC,to now complain about how long you've been waiting for a new model I find more than perplexing.

Slate owes us nothing on VCC except maybe updates with improvements or optimization.

Myself I'd rather see FG-X go 64bit(ver.2?)

But thinking bringing new models to VCC is a cookie cutter process and Slate owes us all free cookies in my mind is not realistic and really upsets me as a client who appreciates how generous Slate Digital is regardless of forum posts reeking of entitlement.

I agree with Fooman developing a great innovative product takes time and I think they've already accomplished this with VCC.

Instead of posts complaining why do we have to wait so long for a new model why not thank Slate for the cool product we already have.
Just saying........