Convolution Conundrum

[D.F.]

Reading through the threads on Altiverb vs Waves IR-1 there really is no one common consensus. Both have their fans.

I was wondering: can one use IR-1 impulses within Altiverb, or vice versa? If so, which way is best and doesn't this give you best of both worlds, except that you can tweak more within IR-1?

I am leaning more towards Altiverb, really only just because it is a bit cheaper than the waves (and I've just bought 6 neve 31102s so pretty skinted out). But is this a false economy and should I spend the extra on waves? Reverb-wise I have a Lexicon 224xl, an EMT 240 goldfoil and an AKG BX20 spring. I guess I am looking for realistic 3-D impulses of bitchin drum rooms etc to add to these.

Thanks.

[Reptil]

Altiverb all the way. very friendly, pro support. sound engine, cool IRs..
never ever heard anything bad from anybody else about them too...

[eskay]

Another vote for Altiverb. Great support, huge library, amazing sound all around.
2 big thumbs up. Stay the phuck away from Waves man. Read the writing on the wall. Don't make a stupid decision and go with Waves.

[6strings]

Altiverb is great. Those guys practically invented convolution reverb!

[I Lurk]

Originally Posted by 6strings

Altiverb is great. Those guys practically invented convolution reverb!

Wouldn't it be SONY ?

[preben]

I am really not trying to be stupid here but what is the writing on the wall in relation to waves..???

[Billster]

What about TL SPACE ? Sounds more natural than Altiverb to my ears. Gives you an astonishing depth.

Just my $ 0.02

Bill

[Geert van den Berg]

Originally Posted by Billster

What about TL SPACE ? Sounds more natural than Altiverb to my ears. Gives you an astonishing depth.

Just my $ 0.02

Bill

I have used both, but not compared them directly. I don't think there is much difference using the same IR's.

At first I liked the TL space interface better. But the new v5 Altiverb has an interface that is equal IMHO. You can't go wrong with either.

[6strings]

Originally Posted by I Lurk

Wouldn't it be SONY ?

One in every crowd. - I said "practically." Audioease were the first to release a convolution plug-in as an alternative to Sony's ultra-expensive hardware unit.

[farjedi]

Another alternative that I've tested against Waves IR and won is Maudio's wizooverb. It's a lot cheaper too.

[Messiah]

Originally Posted by 6strings

Altiverb is great. Those guys practically invented convolution reverb!

Actually, it was me and I told them how to put it into plugin form...

Altiverb does indeed, ahem, rock.

[JeffSanders]

Another vote here for Wizooverb W2. If you're on a pc, there's nothing that comes close.
imho

[D.F.]

Thanks guys. Well, I plumped for the Altiverb and it should arrive monday. Really looking forward to it...

[newrigel]

Originally Posted by I Lurk

Wouldn't it be SONY ?

NO!
Not on a personal COMPUTER! Altiverb ROCKS because hence it's name Alti-Verb... like Alti- vec! Only the Mac utilizes this on die processor and it's processing power keeps the latency ultra low... The PC convo plugs are really unusable in real-time because of the latency issue.
Chalk an other one up for MACS! I heard that even the new Intels are going to utilize this architecture... we'll see.

[D.F.]

Wow. Altiverb is outstanding. Just what the doctor ordered.

[AdamJay]

Originally Posted by D.F.

can one use IR-1 impulses within Altiverb, or vice versa?

wow, all these hip-hip-horray responses and not one single person answered your question.

anyone?

i wish i knew the answer myself, but i thought i'd at least point out the irony.

[aintnosunshine]

I havn't checked recently, but a year or so ago, Altiverb used it's own format which is not compatiable with what every single other convlution verb uses. That aside, it seems like a great app and I wish it were available on PC.

[Rep]

Originally Posted by aintnosunshine

I havn't checked recently, but a year or so ago, Altiverb used it's own format which is not compatiable with what every single other convlution verb uses. That aside, it seems like a great app and I wish it were available on PC.

I thought I read that It was in the works ???
Big market to ignore ...!

[Messiah]

Altiverb does indeed .

Anyone who has been with Altiverb from the beginning will also tell you how it continually evolves and gets better.

The AudioEase guys are a great example the Waves Corporation would be wise to analyse when it comes to dealing with their users.

[Rep]

Originally Posted by Messiah

Altiverb does indeed ..

It suports XP now right ?
...will look into that ......Hmmm....

[junior]

Originally Posted by AdamJay

wow, all these hip-hip-horray responses and not one single person answered your question.

Originally Posted by D.F.

can one use IR-1 impulses within Altiverb, or vice versa?

i think the answers are: "no" and "not really". afaik, ir1's presets are in a format that's exclusive to ir1. altiverb's impulses are non-interleaved sdII files but they're encrypted. there are utilities that can convert them, but i think it violates audioease's EULA...

fwiw, i thought the ir1 impulses sounded the best - more 3d. i haven't tried the wizoo verb yet, though...

[farjedi]

I read someone that altiverb's impulses could be opened as raw wavs although I cannot varify that. However I have just tried to open some .wir (IR1) files and, although it opened it up, it just sounds like whitenoise. Give it a whirl though and let us know if this works.