OSX Logic Install Mishap (aka everyone help the fricking idiot)

[tunesmith]

Ok. I lay myself upon the mercy of the collective slutz mercy seat. I did something really stupid and I really need someone's help.

Here's what I did (please hold your scorn until the end)

Curious about Logic for OSX, in a moment of thoughtlessness, I downloaded and installed the 6.1 update from emagic, thinking I want to have the most current version of the program.

Here's the catch... I didn't run the initial install from the emagic cdrom that came with my logic 6 upgrade. I'm an idiot, I know. All is well and good except that the 6.1 update doesn't install all of the files necessary for Logic to access plug ins, drivers, etc.

So, realizing this, I fish out my original disk and try to do a proper install. Except I get cockblocked by a message that says "There is a more current logic version on this computer (meaning the 6.1 update that I ran) software package cannot install older software on top of new software" or some such horseshit.

I have tried clearing every trace of emagic off of my computer and I still get the message. I am considering installing osx boot files on another partition if necessary, but that seems like a pain in the ass.

How can I uninstall the update? I am pretty new to OSX and I am out of ideas. I thought about installing in OSX on my other computer and then simply flying the files over to my powerbook, but I am afraid that I will miss some secret preference file and be basically damned to the outer darkness where there is weeping and nashing of teeth.

Did I mention that I am a dumb pile of shit?

HELP!!!!!

[BevvyB]

Forgive me, I'll assume you know nothing

So you've taken everything with the words emagic or logic out of your system

Making sure of course that you've looked in

/Library

and

/System/Library

and

Users/yournamehere/Library

and

Taken the dongle out before install again

ALSO

Try using a utility (whose name escapes me) to let the finder show you 'all hidden files', and then search again

AND

How on earth did you manage to install 6 without the CD?

[BevvyB]

Oh, and just as a start, although not a totally through search of your system, this might find some files and folder you missed

Open up the terminal and type this

locate 'emagic' > ~/desktop/newlist.txt

This creates a text file on your desktop with a list of all files with emagic in the name

It only accesses the file database, so there are more thorough searches I can put you onto (including ones that search entire file contents for a string)

See how you go with that one first though, it's quick and may throw up the ones you missed

Mine found these:

/Library/Preferences/info.emagic.plugin.plist
/Users/julianbevmoore/Library/Preferences/info.emagic.logic
/Users/julianbevmoore/Library/Preferences/info.emagic.logic.cs
/Users/julianbevmoore/Library/Preferences/info.emagic.Logic.plist

[BevvyB]

The killer is the find command...it searches all files on your machine one by one...can take a while!!!

open up the terminal, and type

sudo find / -name "*emagic*"

It will ask you for your user password (your admin password for your computer)

That will look for any instance of the word emagic in any filename (ie it would find emagic in 'skdjfhskemagicskdjf')

Using the / where it is makes it scan the main drive from the top level ie all of it.

If you want to just search a particular place, the easiest way is to either make the place you want to search the current directory, using

cd directory_path (which moves you to that directory)

ls (list current directory)

That way you can navigate to the directory you want to search, and then use a PERIOD (full stop) in the find command to tell it you want to search the current directory, ie

sudo find . -name "*emagic*"

OR, put the path name there, ie

sudo find /Applications/Logic -name "*emagic*"

or just use a tilde ~ there to signify to search in the current user folder, ie

sudo find ~ -name "*emagic*"

**** Word of caution****
Unix doesn't recognise spaces in filenames or paths. If you have to navigate to a folder or file with spaces you have to put them in quotes ie

sudo find /Applications/"Cool Folder" -name "*emagic*"

[Kamurah]

I have nothing useful to add to the advice above.

the "find" command should suss out any and all files with "emagic" in the title so you can re-install....


I just wanted to state for the record that the term "cockblocked" is so frickin hilarious and not used nearly enough in my daily vernacular.....

I will have to rectify this.

[BevvyB]

Don't you mean rectumfy?

[BrianT]

I must say, BevvyB, that you acheive a level of tech-geekdom that I've rarely observed in the Mac world.

Props to you.


Regards,
Brian T

[BevvyB]

First started programming on the TRS80 when I was 14, moved onto hand written hex to code games when I was 15...and ..and...

...at 35 luckily I'm much better at music than programming. But I have a fondness for it.

Also I seem to be able to consume manuals naturally. Which is unnatural.

Presently reading 'Unix Power Tools' by O'Reilly 1000 page tome.

Composing and programming...hmmm...always felt similar to me. Creative & haphazard thinking with an idea about perfection and a vague idea of how to reach it, giving rise to verbose and untidy coding OR quite good music.

I failed my computer exams and went to music college.

(they kicked me out but that's another story)

[tunesmith]

I simply ran the 6.1 updater before I installed 6. Brilliant, huh?

I think I have cleared everything except for one little problemo. The EmagicXSKey.kext kernal extension will not go into the trash because "this item is owned by root"

I'm still getting the error message.

Any thoughts?

Thanks for your help.

tunes

[BevvyB]

login as root!!!

Ok, you don't need the terminal for that, just open up the app

NetInfoManager

It should be in your utilities folder

When it opens, choose

Security

from the menu bar at the top, and choose

Authenticate

It will ask for your admin password

Once you've done that you are now the ROOT USER

The ROOT USER can do ANYTHING, including wiping stuff without so much as an 'are you sure'...so be careful

Once you've put the file in the trash, 'de-authenticate' yourself with NetInfo

DON"T FORGET TO DEAUTHENICATE YOURSELF

That's it

The reason I was using a command called sudo in the terminal on my previous explanations about finding is because sudo lets you do a command as if you were root - it stands for super user do - and it means you can do scary commands without need for permissions on a one at a time basis...

...this is to stop you logging in as root, then FORGETTING that you're logged in as root...and then making a critical error

[BevvyB]

Actually, kind of simpler is to change the permissions on that one file

Get Info on the file, open up permissions, and select your username fom the menu

It will ask for the admin password

After that, you should be able to do what you like with the file

For future reference, and for changing permissions on groups of folders and subfolders (you will be doing this) check out an app called BatchMod

[tunesmith]

Bevvy, thanks so much for the help.

However, I just got pissed off and formatted my boot disk, wiping the slate clean. It actually felt good (and seeing as I had hardly loaded anything onto the PB it wasn't that much of a hassle.

It feels strange but good to have a mac with no os9 at all as a boot option... weird.

More info to follow as I get used to using Logic in OSX.

Thanks again

[JSMITH]

Good luck with OSX! Let the force be with you!

[smoothmoniker]

tunesmith

is it as good as it was promised? massive plugins, huge track count, built in esppresso maker, self-image modifier +8?

-sm

[tunesmith]

Thus far it's quite lovely.

I haven't had a chance to really get something heavy duty up and running, as I am working on all those sexy things like setting key commands and plug in reauthorization.

Oh doctor...

tunes out.

p.s. any word from our power balladeering friends from nashvegas?

p.p.s. eat a big sac of you know what for making me pull out a dictionary so I could understand your quote. pompous ass.

[faeflora]

Originally posted by tunesmith
I simply ran the 6.1 updater before I installed 6. Brilliant, huh?

I think I have cleared everything except for one little problemo. The EmagicXSKey.kext kernal extension will not go into the trash because "this item is owned by root"

BTW what BB said works but an easier way would be to go to the directory the file is in and type


sudo rm FILENAME

if it's a folder you type

sudo rm -r FOLDERNAME

rm -r obliterates the folder and everything inside it.