Editing waveform gain in Pro Tools

[work2do]

it's called "Gain". In audiosuite menu on top

[Ash Taylor]

Sweet, thankyou!

[Myr]

If I cut a region into three parts, A, B, and C, and then change the gain of part B to +4db; will the consolidate region option in pro tools preserve the new boosted gain of part B now that they're all in one file?

[sardi]

Originally Posted by Myr

If I cut a region into three parts, A, B, and C, and then change the gain of part B to +4db; will the consolidate region option in pro tools preserve the new boosted gain of part B now that they're all in one file?

Yes - assuming you're changing the gain with the AS plugin.

AudioSuite is destructive, so it is writing that gain change to the file. When you consolidate, it is consolidating exactly what is on the timeline.

I have a feeling the OP was probably looking for a non destructive way of doing this though. As in clip gain on regions on the timeline - like Cubase.

Atm, there is no clip gain functionality in PT. There is a way of doing using Elastic Audio - though it does have restrictions.

If you enable EA on your track, split the track into regions, then right click on the region you want to apply the gain change to, you will be able to lower the gain by 6db - per region.

The limitation is that it is only 6db and it can only be lowered, not raised. It also means you have to enable EA on the tracks which will prob increase the hit on your CPU. Probably won't be that drastic if you don't actually stretch any regions though.

[RiF]

I personally don't like automating the volume faders, because it makes later adjustments to the overall level somehow cumbersome. I do automated gain rides using the Trim plugin inserted on the track and automating the Gain-parameter of that one.
If you don't find the Trim plugin, it can be found under the Multi-Mono plugins menu only for some reason.

[danoan522]

I couldn't believe how easy this was to do in Cubase when I went to sit in on a mix at a different studio a few days ago. I usually work in Pro tools and have to use the destructive Audio Suite gain feature. I really wish there was a way to do this on the fly like how done in cubase. Even my propellerhead Record does this! nothing in pro tools currently can apparently give you a similar operation of editing the levels within a waveform. I plan to use the two pieces of software in conjunction for my waveform volume editing purposes. If anyone from Digidesign/Avid is reading this (maybe I should swing over to the Digidesign User Conference), I would really plead for the feature where you can modify the volume of a separated region on the fly without destructively processing that region!

[clivek]

Like many others I got PT9 when it was released.

Like you I was a Cubase user and missed the easy waveform volume edit !

I found if you change the option on the track so it shows the volume automation on top of the waveform. Then it's easy to highlight the part of the audio you want to change volume, then draw the level up or down !!

Cheers Clive

[Alex_HS]

ProTools really suck in this area, this is one of my favorite timesaver features in other DAW. Now I have to use AS Gain (rarely) or Volume Trim (in PTHD, ordinary PT9 without CPTK hasn't this feature)

PS: One man from developer's team said that they maybe will implement this feature in future.

[UnderTow]

Originally Posted by Ash Taylor

Hey guys, I was just wondering if there was any way of adjusting the actual waveform level/gain in pro tools and not just automating the volume/fader?

I did this easily on Cubase but there doesn't seem to be an option to do it on pro tools.

I'm doing this simply because I'm triggering the snare drum with drumagog and the drummers hits were quite inconsistent especially in the chorus where its hit a lot quieter which is making it difficult to get a stronger sample through.

Any suggestions are much appreciated!

Ash

Although this is a very old post from last year and this has probably long been solved, I am procrastinating on real work so here is my take: If I was in this situation I would slam the snare with a limiter. It doesn't matter how it sounds as long as drumagog gets a signal consistent enough for triggering. I might even do this in Cubase as it is faster than adjusting levels.

(But yes, the instantly available gain level for each clip is a great Cubase feature).


PS: If the limiter was still not enough, I would select the volume view of the offending snare track. Then you can just select whole sections and pull the volume up and down with the mouse...

Alistair

[joeq]

Originally Posted by RiF

I personally don't like automating the volume faders, because it makes later adjustments to the overall level somehow cumbersome. I do automated gain rides using the Trim plugin inserted on the track and automating the Gain-parameter of that one.
If you don't find the Trim plugin, it can be found under the Multi-Mono plugins menu only for some reason.

you can highlight the volume line and then pull it up or down with the Trim Tool -for the whole song or section by section

the Trim Tool turns into an up/down trimmer when displaying automation data and can be used to trim any automation info.


I have never understood automating the trim plug. It's just another volume line you still need to edit if you change your mind! Editing that line is no easier than editing the fader line. You could just as easily automate the fader and use the trim plug to make later 'overall' adjustments.