crud. there's no way to make it register as a different plugin or something is there? like have cubase(6.53) recognize one as trigger and the other as "trigger new" or something. If you know any way to do this i'd love to use the new one. I have entire technical death metal albums where i carefully automated the "detail" knob to make sure every little blast beat was picked up and such....it's not minutes of work to make sure it's all back to normal and i often am asked to open old projects. my workaround would work perfect for me...if it's possible.
Another user here with the digital artifact problem when tuning tons (it sounds like severe aliasing to me).
I just want to chime in on this as I and several others have been asking about this for a long time. It limits the usefulness of the plugin.
Another issue I experience is that when using the deluxe BB snare sample, some of the hits contain an extreme amount of noise. I've often wondered if it is some kind of bug, or if the noise is in the samples themselves.
Another user here with the digital artifact problem when tuning tons (it sounds like severe aliasing to me).
I just want to chime in on this as I and several others have been asking about this for a long time. It limits the usefulness of the plugin.
Another issue I experience is that when using the deluxe BB snare sample, some of the hits contain an extreme amount of noise. I've often wondered if it is some kind of bug, or if the noise is in the samples themselves.
Are you using the latest version 1.66 PC/1.66r2 Mac?
Please file a support ticket with all you systems specs and as much info as possible regards issues.
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Are you using the latest version 1.66 PC/1.66r2 Mac?
Please file a support ticket with all you systems specs and as much info as possible regards issues.
Thanks,
I don't recall the version #, but I doubt it's something specific to my system as I've experienced this same behavior using Trigger at several studios.
You can check the version by clicking the Slate Digital graphic in the GUI. Throw a ticket my way Ben with all the info and I'll look into this Monday when I'm back in the office.
crud. there's no way to make it register as a different plugin or something is there? like have cubase(6.53) recognize one as trigger and the other as "trigger new" or something. If you know any way to do this i'd love to use the new one. I have entire technical death metal albums where i carefully automated the "detail" knob to make sure every little blast beat was picked up and such....it's not minutes of work to make sure it's all back to normal and i often am asked to open old projects. my workaround would work perfect for me...if it's possible.
Same boat here, and Ive found a solution.
When installing the the new version of Trigger, have it install the .dll file in a different location to the old one. Once its installed, rename the new version (I called mine Trigger New.dll).
Now move the new renamed .dll to the same folder as the old one. I use Steinberg programs (Nuendo 4 & Cubase 6), and now in my plugin menu there is a folder for Trigger, with the option of "Trigger", and "Trigger New".
When I open old projects, it still uses the old version of Trigger (named Trigger), but when I start new projects, I use the new version (called Trigger New).
When installing the the new version of Trigger, have it install the .dll file in a different location to the old one. Once its installed, rename the new version (I called mine Trigger New.dll).
Now move the new renamed .dll to the same folder as the old one. I use Steinberg programs (Nuendo 4 & Cubase 6), and now in my plugin menu there is a folder for Trigger, with the option of "Trigger", and "Trigger New".
When I open old projects, it still uses the old version of Trigger (named Trigger), but when I start new projects, I use the new version (called Trigger New).
Hope thats some help!
Oz
big help actually! Haven't tried it yet but kind of figured the plugins had a more sophisticated way of identifying themselves. I guess not, and this would solve all my problems.
Because of the highly advanced upgrades in the TRIGGERING engine from 1.65 and above, there may be some settings tweaks needed in older 1.64 projects.
However, I've found that these tweaks usually take a few minutes, and in the end, the samples play back more naturally due to the enhanced algorithms.
Cheers,
Steven
1.65 was totally unusable in Pro Tools for me due to it offsetting the left side of a sample. Weird thing is it only happened in PT not Cubase or Logic. Had to go back to 1.64. Hopefully this is not happening in the new version.
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I just did 5 songs in PT with TRIGGER 1.66 and the samples were LOCKED in perfectly. The new Deluxe sample 'Yamaha Beech Kick' really saved a kick drum that sounded like it was recorded with an iphone mic.
I've downloaded the new Deluxe sample pack and I've put the samples in the same folder that I usually use for Trigger, but I keep keep the below message.
I've downloaded the new Deluxe sample pack and I've put the samples in the same folder that I usually use for Trigger, but I keep keep the below message.
What am I doing wrong?
Please upgrade to Trigger version 1.66 (available in your user area at users.drumclassroom.net), and also download your .tlc license file for the Deluxe Expansion Pack.
Place the license file in your Trigger Instruments folder.
Launch Trigger in your DAW.
Open the Settings panel and click the "License Settings" button (top right).
Set the license.
Go back to the Settings panel and reset your data path. Then re-insantiate Trigger on the channel.
I've downloaded the new Deluxe sample pack and I've put the samples in the same folder that I usually use for Trigger, but I keep keep the below message.
What am I doing wrong?
Did you install the license file? Did you download the new 1.66 TRIGGER version? The DELUXE will only work with the updated 1.66.
Hope this helps! There is documentation that should assist you as well.
i use slate trigger platinum since an year now!
when i see videos or listen to songs postetd by slate digital where an artist used slate samples it mostly sounds really good!
but in my experience when i switch thru the sample libary i always think that the samples sounds thin and some kind out of tune!
i dont know how that can be, but it seems as if it detunes the sample when the snare was hit with a different intensity or something like that. really strange.
but beside that,...
so can someone please tell me what samples of the libary you guys use for some kind of punkrock / metal stuff?
i use slate trigger platinum since an year now!
when i see videos or listen to songs postetd by slate digital where an artist used slate samples it mostly sounds really good!
but in my experience when i switch thru the sample libary i always think that the samples sounds thin and some kind out of tune!
i dont know how that can be, but it seems as if it detunes the sample when the snare was hit with a different intensity or something like that. really strange.
but beside that,...
so can someone please tell me what samples of the libary you guys use for some kind of punkrock / metal stuff?
I think I understand what you mean. I think there's far more to using trigger than meets the eye, while it's very good at replacing the drums it's another thing getting those samples to sit properly with your own overheads or room mics. For me that was the challenge. I've got a lot better at doing it but If the samples aren't sitting right with your live overheads it can cause that 'out of tune' problem you're experiencing which is probably more to do with a phasing issue than anything.
Cheers, Mark.
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There are thousands of songs out there that use TRIGGER, many you've probably heard... but the sonic results ultimately depend on the song, the tracks, and the skill of the engineer.
Trigger comes with a lot of fat sounding samples, but you need to be experienced with mixing and also know how to use the plugin. For instance, someone wrote me not long ago and couldn't get his metal drums to sound aggressive with TRIGGER. He send me the session, and it turns out that the snare was recorded so low, it was only triggering the low velocity samples! Not good for metal! So simply raising TRIGGER's input and setting the mode to "HARD" and lowering the dynamics gave him that in your face metal sound he wanted!
Speaking of metal, check out this amazing work done by Alexander Brusencev using TRIGGER, VCC, VTM, and finalized with FG-X!
And at the end of this video, you can hear some slightly boring sounding drum use the new DELUXE samples to add some depth, fatness, and PUNCH!
is there an easy way to set trigger to cue samples that sound like the drum is not being hit so hard?
even the new deluxe library (which sounds much better!) is still very aggressive. it would be perfect for rock or metal, but less useful for other styles. i'd like a way to set up the plug in to cue the samples that are softer.
is there an easy way to set trigger to cue samples that sound like the drum is not being hit so hard?
even the new deluxe library (which sounds much better!) is still very aggressive. it would be perfect for rock or metal, but less useful for other styles. i'd like a way to set up the plug in to cue the samples that are softer.
You can use the Range Curve as explained in the manual (page 14) to reduce velocity layers, so to trigger softer hits.
Ray, it sounds like the material you work on has a drum sound that requires the drummer to not hit with what we call the "rimshot". You can turn OFF just the rimshot via range as Ashley explained.. OR... by going to the bottom left and selecting "SOFT" mode. You can do this with all the classic samples too!
Ray, it sounds like the material you work on has a drum sound that requires the drummer to not hit with what we call the "rimshot". You can turn OFF just the rimshot via range as Ashley explained.. OR... by going to the bottom left and selecting "SOFT" mode. You can do this with all the classic samples too!
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