IPad camera kit + audio interface = .....

[musimedia]

What I mean is that if I have to carry the iPad, a USB audio interface, a mic, a powered USB hub, a headset, a usb controller and more.... only to connect this to a "Camera Kit" that will disconnect when I try to actually use the iPad and the have to reboot it to get it all working again....

that seems very impractical to me. I won't do any pro takes on this so as a sketch pad, I might as well simply use a typical 4 track app on an iPhone and not worry about trying to make a 700$ glorified iPod into a DAW.

as I said...my 2 cents ! .. because by the time I get all this stuff connected, I would probably have forgotten why I was connecting all these puzzle pieces together anyway !

I am a songwriter, If the song is there with guitar/vocals only... then the song is there... I don't need all the bells and whistles to know if the song is good or bad... and the song is the reason all this started, not the toys!

don't get me wrong.. I love toys... or "tools" as I say when talking to my significant other!

[noggin]

Originally Posted by musimedia

What I mean is that if I have to carry the iPad, a USB audio interface, a mic, a powered USB hub, a headset, a usb controller and more.... only to connect this to a "Camera Kit" that will disconnect when I try to actually use the iPad and the have to reboot it to get it all working again....

You can connect a usb mic directly to the camera connection kit. You don't need anything else like an interface, powered usb hub, headset(?), or a "usb controller" (did you forget the point of a portable multitouch device?). Not sure why you think the camera kit will disconnect. The 30 pin connector fits more securely than a usb connection.

[tsvisser]

Originally Posted by noggin

You can connect a usb mic directly to the camera connection kit. You don't need anything else like an interface, powered usb hub, headset(?), or a "usb controller" (did you forget the point of a portable multitouch device?). Not sure why you think the camera kit will disconnect. The 30 pin connector fits more securely than a usb connection.

The camera connection kit seems to be much looser than the typical 30 pin cable... may not have the same positive locking feature as some of the cables, or maybe the torque that can be applied sideways makes it worse. It does in fact come out pretty easily. I think that using a dock extension cable should fix that problem, though.

[Gaston69]

Originally Posted by tsvisser

Hey, it worked! Stoked as now I have a cool little 4/2 mixer / recorder setup using my Nagra MX. Although there aren't too many of the Nagra MX units around, it does use the rather common TI / Burr Brown audio CODEC. I'm using the StudioSixDigital "Recorder" utility in the iAudioTools. I cannot get 48KHz sampling rate to work, it seems the USB CODEC locks to 44.1 and you get record / playback artifacts. I confirmed that 48KHz works by hooking up to my Mac and using another audio app.... but for some reason the iPad / software is not signaling the CODEC to switch over. I find that hot plugging the USB connector into the connection kit can be done without ill side effects, but once the connection kit comes loose, often times you must reboot the iPad. The connection kit comes out so easily, that I'd be hesitant to move the iPad around at all when using it.

The bag is a handmade job done by one of my girlfriend's friends who makes purses and the iPhone is just there to feed some test audio into the mixer.

Looks Super Cool

[danvprod]

Hey this is Dan from Studio Six Digital.

Interfaces that I have had success working with the ipad. (specifically with Audio Tools, I can't speak for other programs):

iMic - works very well - if you use an external battery powered pre (I have tested it with the MP-1 - Sound Devices and a measurement microphone - I have an earthworks M23 - you have a very high quality completely battery-powered solution.) No dropouts or sampling errors, operates at 48k, able to duplex and deconvolve recorded files into impulses using impulse response (sampling errors or dropouts would cause this to fail or yield spurious, distorted results) - see below.

ART DualPRE USB Pre - works off of iPad's power, including phantom power but I get random sample dropouts and glitches making it less than useful for impulse response measurment and recording.

Apogee One - confirmed not working with or without USB hub.

Apogee MiniMe - works with external power (obviously) and a USB hub. I am contemplating building up a 12v battery to run the MiniMe and USB hub which will again make the system battery powered. The MiniMe has the advantage of higher quality convertors over the iMic as well as less 'stuff' to connect - i.e. ipad connection kit to iMic to MP-1 to microphone. Also for general recording the stereo input and compressors of the minime are quite nice sounding.

We'll be at AES this weekend, booth 733, if you want to come check out these different interfaces working with the ipad.

[PMoshay]

Centrance MicPort Pro is a NO go...... does not work, draws too much power.
I do have a Logitec USB stereo headset with mic and it works fine

[Maclogically]

Originally Posted by PMoshay

Centrance MicPort Pro is a NO go...... does not work, draws too much power.

I can confirm this although their dacport pro does work after a flash update however the power consumption of the micport is theoretically within acceptable limits and it is supposedly USB class compliant so this might change - centrance?

[undertone]

Originally Posted by danvprod

...Apogee MiniMe - works with external power (obviously) and a USB hub. I am contemplating building up a 12v battery to run the MiniMe and USB hub which will again make the system battery powered. The MiniMe has the advantage of higher quality convertors over the iMic as well as less 'stuff' to connect - i.e. ipad connection kit to iMic to MP-1 to microphone. Also for general recording the stereo input and compressors of the minime are quite nice sounding...

Dan, thanks for confirming this but why the USB hub? Thanks. BTW, I made my own battery packs for the MiniMe from cheap 12v laptop batteries and chargers I got on eBay.

[Fruit]

Originally Posted by danvprod

Apogee One - confirmed not working with or without USB hub.

It's strange, I 've read about people using apogee One with Ipad 2+ Usb hub. As far as I read you must setup the interface in maestro, then disconnet from mac and connect in Ipad (I'm considering to buy one )

[BusyGirl]

I tried my Apogee Duet 2, it works using a usb powered hub. But while i can use it with everything like itunes, youtube or whatever, i don't get any sound from my audio apps like nanostudio, filtatron or ims20 ... weird, ideas ?

[Fruit]

Originally Posted by BusyGirl

I tried my Apogee Duet 2, it works using a usb powered hub. But while i can use it with everything like itunes, youtube or whatever, i don't get any sound from my audio apps like nanostudio, filtatron or ims20 ... weird, ideas ?

probably because that apps use Cocoa instead CoreAudio
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/5754819-post46.html

[insect1]

Does the Apogee jam guitar interface work or help ?
Iam looking for a reliable solution for getting a ipad compatible audio interface too..

[insect1]

Line 6 mobile in also looks interesting

[grabejud]

Originally Posted by insect1

Does the Apogee jam guitar interface work or help ?
Iam looking for a reliable solution for getting a ipad compatible audio interface too..

apogee jam works great with ipad (2), i have one, though i think i need to upgrade to ios 5 to be able to run the new garageband 1.1

[RKMusic]

Originally Posted by insect1

Line 6 mobile in also looks interesting

I bought one last week to use with my iPhone 4. The interface is plastic, but seems pretty well built. The Mobile POD app is ok, but as a regular POD Farm user, I was hoping for more. Although the GUI is cool, the rig settings are limited. No Tube Screamer and no ability to change mic location on the cabinet. But, for an amp sim on a phone, I can't really complain. The Peavey AmpKit app sounded better to me for a distorted sound.

I used the stereo input while in GarageBand with a CAD M179 > Focusrite Saffire Pro DSP 24 > headphone out. This worked out very well and makes me think you could make some pretty nice acoustic recordings doing one track at a time. This setup was also ideal for shooting solo acoustic guitar/vocal videos with vastly improved sound over the built-in iPhone mic.

I know there is this thought out there of why would you want to use this kind of setup if you already have Logic on a MBP. My main reason for this type of rig is to quickly and simply record videos with good sound. I can shoot, edit and upload directly on the iPhone. Secondly, I think it could be a cool recording exercise to deal with the limitations of GarageBand on an iPhone but still get quality sound. Lastly, it makes a pretty convenient practice rig for electric guitar.

[Pellet_time]

I've been using a apogee mini-me connected to iPad via the onboard USB card. The apogee runs off a battery but the USB card is powered from the usb bus -ie the ipad. The iPad complains when I plug the mini-me directly to the camera connection kit (CCK), saying it draws too much power, and it ceases to work. The workaround, as others have said, is a powered USB hub. This is an annoyance for field recordings as it means more cables, more field-unfriendly usb connections and more power supplies to carry. Strangely, I found the system works fine via the USB hub even when the hub is not powered. This is how I've been running it, good results.

[MREVOL]

Does anyone know a interface that will work with the iPad that gives it more then 2 outs. Would like to run backing tracks live and need to run a stereo mix and click.

If nothing, could I get an Alesis io dock and run a seperate unit by the midi to get click.

Anyone doing such?

[160R]

Yes. RME Fireface UCX.

[MREVOL]

The fireface ucx states for the ipad

Playback will use analog outputs 1 and 2 (there is no app supporting 8-channel playback at this time). The output signal 1/2 will be copied to outputs 7/8, SPDIF and ADAT, and can be processed independently (Volume/EQ/Dyn/FX Return)

[subhertz]

Tascam us800 gives 8 in/6 out ipad usb CCK functionality, currently only supported by Harmonis Dog's " DAW" app.
However, as this multi input/output is a new breakthrough, developers will be adding choice of ports in the future.
This is discussed in the thread ...
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/showthread.php?t=586411
# 68,73,83

and one Tascam us800 owning Gearslut petitioned for multi input/output choice on the Loopy HD forum , the developer wasn't aware of this development but said would implement soon, for example

Also the NAMM announced monster vst fueled multitrack daw " Auria " boasts 24 track simultaneous recording , and they will be announcing a host of compatible multi in/out interfaces in due course,

so this is definitely a next step in ipad evolution, and it might be worth biding a while to see all the new interfaces that will be coming with ipad multi in/ out support.

edit added link

[Fruit]

Originally Posted by MREVOL

Does anyone know a interface that will work with the iPad that gives it more then 2 outs. Would like to run backing tracks live and need to run a stereo mix and click.

If nothing, could I get an Alesis io dock and run a seperate unit by the midi to get click.

Anyone doing such?

I use a Yamaha MW12 mixer and it works

[flexoffset]

I've read all three pages of this and still am not sure. lol
Is there an audio interface that connects to my camera kit to get audio from my synths on my iPad 2 out in stereo - in real time - to Logic running on my mac?

[Cicatrix]

So if I'm reading this right I should be able to connect my duet 2 to the iPad via powered USB hub with the cck, and it should work? Then all I would need is Auria with midi capabilities.

[flexoffset]

Originally Posted by Cicatrix

So if I'm reading this right I should be able to connect my duet 2 to the iPad via powered USB hub and it should work? Then all I would need is Auria with midi capabilities.

dunno.
I bought that Digital AV Adapter thing and am going via HDMI into my Black Magic Intensity Pro PCI card for the audio. Using wi-fi midi.

[Cicatrix]

Ahh, sounds pretty nice. I think I am probably going to pick up the iPad3 regardless. I want to try and make the ultimate mini portable studio. The tech is there its just trying to piece everything together so that it's nice and Cohesive.

[atimchak]

I'm going to go ahead and resurrect this thread. Really, I would think it wouldn't be that hard to find an answer, but I'll be damned if I haven't searched for an hour and have yet to have found one.

I want to record Animoog sounds from my Ipad 2 into logic. I would prefer to not use the headphone out, but if I have to, so be it. Has anyone had success with this? I have the camera kit, but not the right usb cable to try it.

[PMoshay]

Originally Posted by atimchak

I'm going to go ahead and resurrect this thread. Really, I would think it wouldn't be that hard to find an answer, but I'll be damned if I haven't searched for an hour and have yet to have found one.

I want to record Animoog sounds from my Ipad 2 into logic. I would prefer to not use the headphone out, but if I have to, so be it. Has anyone had success with this? I have the camera kit, but not the right usb cable to try it.

You can use one of these Fiio E1 adaptors for the smallest & most portable setups with a much improved output for both iPad & iPhone/Pod

or

Get the Alesis i/o dock for the iPad, its really a wonderful device, but is not really small....... but packs lots of stuff into a package and sounds really good.

The Fiio E9i is also a nice way to interface a iPhone & iPad, except with a iPad you'd have to get a dock extension cable.
I have the E9i on my desk and use it for my Mac & iPhone interface. The headphone out is amazing and the conversion on the Fiio stuff is much much better than the apple outs.
You can find the Fiio stuff on Ebay very well priced and it's all a substanial upgrade for the money.

[Azuretoxin]

Zoom H4n works with iPad2 through the camera usb socket in Audio I/F mode but only when powered by its power supply.

[norbury brook]

Apple changed how much power the USB device can draw with a recent OS update so most devices now need external power.


Most Behringer devices work including the UMA 25S it needs a powered hub or mains psu for the audio to work, midi works powered straight from the ipad fine.

BEHRINGER: UMA25S

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MC

[tedbow]

Hi, my site iosAudio.co is creating a list of iOS compatible audio and midi devices.

This list is update-able by users of the site.

It contains the specs for each device and iOS device relavent information such as whether the device needs a powered usb hub or a power adapter.

Working Devices | iOS Audio

As well as adding and updating audio/midi devices users can also add "Usage Reports" which contain:

1. iOS device used
2. iOS version
3. Whether midi or audio work
4. comments/bugs

I haven't see a good list of devices that is update-able by users. I created this list b/c I wanted one central place figure out which devices with my iPad. I think forums are great but I don't think they are the best for a repository of device information. Please help us grow this list.

See list

Thanks