Waves CLA Signature Plugin Released.

[audiomichael]

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I'm glad it helped and that some people found it interesting.

[ProducerBoy]

Originally Posted by audiomichael

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I'm glad it helped and that some people found it interesting.

Definitely! Thank you! The CLA comps consistently impress me... much more than the CLA sig collection.

[PMoshay]

these plugs are great but tax the hell out of my G5 DP Mac/HD3 setup.
i guess i need to swap my HD rig mac out soon

[fastlane]

Originally Posted by audiomichael

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I'm glad it helped and that some people found it interesting.

Thanks for doing this! Downloading the demo now

[Hoth]

Originally Posted by audiomichael

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I'm glad it helped and that some people found it interesting.

Many thanks!thumbsup

[tombuur]

Thanks too. Not only for CLA, but the others as well. I wondered whether Kramer would be somthing for me and the style I do. But your demos have changed that or at least made me doubt. CLA sounds best.

Other than that I am one for whom it could be useful with some "mixing by numbers" so that I could concentrate on writhing music instead and record it.

[ProducerBoy]

Originally Posted by audiomichael

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I'm glad it helped and that some people found it interesting.

So after spending some time with all those plugs, what are your thoughts/preferences?

[PMoshay]

anyone else using these on a G5 dual? My system slows to a crawl with 8 of them on drums, and the fan on my G5 if on full tilt as well.
in activity monitor on a 40 track session at 24/48k is at protools CPU 45%
when i put in (1) stereo drums CLA, i go to 75%-80% +/-

i'm wondering if they are not as taxing on the system using a new Intel Mac Pro's?

anyone wanna check and see and report back.......... wanna see if i'm gonna have to upgrade my PTHD cards to use a Mac Pro 8 core soon.

Love the plug in, not sure if it's just not optimized for a G5......... i know my G5 is a bit outdated, i guess ill switch to a Mac Pro 8 core soon if it looks like i have to to use cool stuff like this.

[audiomichael]

CLA on 2x2.66 DualCore Intel

About 75% of 3 of the 4 cores, at 256 buffer, 12GB RAM.

[PMoshay]

Originally Posted by audiomichael

CLA on 2x2.66 DualCore Intel
About 75% of 3 of the 4 cores, at 256 buffer, 12GB RAM.

Dam, thats what i thought. I'm choking with 8 of them......... i'm screwed until i upgrade to the Mac Pro 8 core

[clonewar]

Originally Posted by PMoshay

Love the plug in, not sure if it's just not optimized for a G5.........

Unfortunately, there probably isn't much that's optimized for G5's anymore..

[PMoshay]

Where's the "APA" like Wave's device when you need it.
Thought that a external processing power solution would be "shopping cart" ready by now.

[audiomichael]

Originally Posted by ProducerBoy

So after spending some time with all those plugs, what are your thoughts/preferences?

Well, I think they are all great.

The SSL channel, and CLA compressors are in my top 5 go-to plugins that I use ALL the time. They are life changing.

The Kramer Sig is the biggest bummer of the bunch... BUT, the guitar plug can do great things quickly. I'm not a fan of the others in that bundle. Sometimes I'll throw that on guitars I do for friends, because it's an instant better (but not too extreme), and so they don't have to fiddle with a 'raw' sound.

The Maserati Sig is cool. I don't really get what he was going for with the 'guitars', it's kinda a strange collection of sounds. 'Vocals' is OK, but seems very pop/R&B oriented, or maybe late 90's pop. The 'bass' plugin is pretty cool, and the 'drums' for kick and snare is not bad at all. I don't use this much, but I do audition in a mix the 'bass' plugin every now and again.

The CLA Sig is VERY impressive and the only MUST BUY in the Sig bunch so far. It seems more naturally tweak-able than the other signature series plugins. If you like Lord-Alge mixes, and you would like your music to sound that way, these will get you in the ballpark even if you don't know what you're doing. If you DO know what you're doing, they're a great tool to rough our quickies, or while working up a production, or using one 'here and there' in a full mix. If you hate modern music, or only like retro rock, or hyper dynamic jazz, etc, then obviously these aren't for you.

[AMIEL]

Originally Posted by audiomichael

Well, I think they are all great.

The SSL channel, and CLA compressors are in my top 5 go-to plugins that I use ALL the time. They are life changing.

The Kramer Sig is the biggest bummer of the bunch... BUT, the guitar plug can do great things quickly. I'm not a fan of the others in that bundle. Sometimes I'll throw that on guitars I do for friends, because it's an instant better (but not too extreme), and so they don't have to fiddle with a 'raw' sound.

The Maserati Sig is cool. I don't really get what he was going for with the 'guitars', it's kinda a strange collection of sounds. 'Vocals' is OK, but seems very pop/R&B oriented, or maybe late 90's pop. The 'bass' plugin is pretty cool, and the 'drums' for kick and snare is not bad at all. I don't use this much, but I do audition in a mix the 'bass' plugin every now and again.

The CLA Sig is VERY impressive and the only MUST BUY in the Sig bunch so far. It seems more naturally tweak-able than the other signature series plugins. If you like Lord-Alge mixes, and you would like your music to sound that way, these will get you in the ballpark even if you don't know what you're doing. If you DO know what you're doing, they're a great tool to rough our quickies, or while working up a production, or using one 'here and there' in a full mix. If you hate modern music, or only like retro rock, or hyper dynamic jazz, etc, then obviously these aren't for you.

Originally Posted by zboy2854

This is exactly my take on the various bundles/plugins as well.

what is the reality about the CPU consumption of the CLA signature series?

[AMIEL]

Originally Posted by zboy2854

I haven't done any exact stress test measurements, but I've used them extensively on some recent mixes on my quad core Mac Pro, and happened to check the system usage meter and was barely registering 25%, although I can't recall exactly how many instances I was using at the time.

Cool! thanks!

[ProducerBoy]

Originally Posted by AMIEL

what is the reality about the CPU consumption of the CLA signature series?

I'm running virtual instruments eating close to 1.5gb of RAM (I have 6... or 8).
Using about 10 instances, I got a "memory is running low" warning from Logic. I'm on a MacPro quad. I honestly wouldn't want to use them on less than a quad.

[ProducerBoy]

Originally Posted by audiomichael

Well, I think they are all great.

The SSL channel, and CLA compressors are in my top 5 go-to plugins that I use ALL the time. They are life changing.

The Kramer Sig is the biggest bummer of the bunch... BUT, the guitar plug can do great things quickly. I'm not a fan of the others in that bundle. Sometimes I'll throw that on guitars I do for friends, because it's an instant better (but not too extreme), and so they don't have to fiddle with a 'raw' sound.

The Maserati Sig is cool. I don't really get what he was going for with the 'guitars', it's kinda a strange collection of sounds. 'Vocals' is OK, but seems very pop/R&B oriented, or maybe late 90's pop. The 'bass' plugin is pretty cool, and the 'drums' for kick and snare is not bad at all. I don't use this much, but I do audition in a mix the 'bass' plugin every now and again.

The CLA Sig is VERY impressive and the only MUST BUY in the Sig bunch so far. It seems more naturally tweak-able than the other signature series plugins. If you like Lord-Alge mixes, and you would like your music to sound that way, these will get you in the ballpark even if you don't know what you're doing. If you DO know what you're doing, they're a great tool to rough our quickies, or while working up a production, or using one 'here and there' in a full mix. If you hate modern music, or only like retro rock, or hyper dynamic jazz, etc, then obviously these aren't for you.

Excellent feedback. Thanks!

I haven't bothered with the Kramers. They don't seem to bring much to the table that I haven't got.
I do have the Maserati, if for nothing else than the acoustic, bass, and harmonix plugs.
I tried the CLA comps, but when matched to my UAD equivalents by ear, they didn't sell me. If I didn't have the UAD plugs, I'd buy in a heartbeat. They are really nice.. especially the CLA3A. (actually, i''m going to grab the LA3A from UAD. I demoed it after trying the CLA3A - I think the Waves version has a leg up on UAD, but they are so close, it's not worth the price of the bundle to me.)
As for the CLA sigs, it took a lot of experimentation, but I feel like I've got my head wrapped around what's going on and how they fit into my workflow. I usually like them best as a supplement to a chain. Blending in the verbs and delays, etc.. CLA's default processing (the EQ/Comp that stays in even with everything disabled) works nicely with my go to processors. Overall, I'm digging them.

[matt thomas]

Originally Posted by PMoshay

Where's the "APA" like Wave's device when you need it.
Thought that a external processing power solution would be "shopping cart" ready by now.

Didn't waves just announce a new thing like this, using farm computers?

matt

[everythinglouder]

Originally Posted by matt thomas

Didn't waves just announce a new thing like this, using farm computers?

matt

Yes, and IIRC, you need TDM licenses of your Waves plug-ins to farm out the processing. Ironically, this new CLA pack is Native only.

[matt thomas]

Originally Posted by everythinglouder

Yes, and IIRC, you need TDM licenses of your Waves plug-ins to farm out the processing. Ironically, this new CLA pack is Native only.

LOL

matt

[MRose]

Originally Posted by audiomichael

CLA on 2x2.66 DualCore Intel

About 75% of 3 of the 4 cores, at 256 buffer, 12GB RAM.

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why does it matter? when mixing you can crank your buffer up to 2048 for all I know, doesn't change anything and will give you way more juice. You're not doing any direct monitoring.

[BigJunk]

Gotta say, using the CLA sig plugins and I did one of the fastest mixes I've ever done, and its sounded great. Yes it kinda feels like cheatin but my client didn't care and I got paid!
Junk

[Guest]

Originally Posted by BigJunk

Gotta say, using the CLA sig plugins and I did one of the fastest mixes I've ever done, and its sounded great. Yes it kinda feels like cheatin but my client didn't care and I got paid!
Junk

Originally Posted by zboy2854

Yep, and the bottom line is that the end listener doesn't give a shit what was used to make a mix. If it sounds good, it IS good. Period.

That's right... It's all about the song.


What will become a possible hit song? A great song crapy recorded and mixed or a bad song done in a top studio recorded with A-list musicians and mixed by a great mixer? Don't get me wrong. It hurts me to say that, but at the end all the gear and software is just a tool not the song.

[eddierodriguez]

anyone else noticed, that these plugs add much white noise?

other then on the compressors, you can´t turn "the analog" off.

[Jantex]

Bough them today after taking enough time to test them. Whatever osme people say, it's really hard to make them sound bad on rock music or it's simply to easy making a good sound with them. Is this a bad thing? Most definitely not, maybe many don't like the approach of thesep lugins, but I cannot help myself to admit, that these sound damn great and they helped me pull the fastest rock mix ever, which sounded better than ever. You must try them without prejudice. You'll be amazed at what unbelievable drum, bass and vox sounds you'll achieve in less than a minute!

[Johnkenn]

The drum and bass versions are awesome! I slapped this thing on bass and was stunned.

[pylorca]

mmmmm is a cr@p.., inharmonics present....

[Killah_Trakz]

Ok my waves hls n pye are up for sale, and I want this! The K n M dudes are so blah but Waves and CLA have nailed such a f*cking tool that the rest of my lingo is irish pirate lingo. Amazing man, I mean damn! The revebs are not wishi washy. I would still use a comp of choice for some coloration but besides that waves has nailed it! Ohh well their goes my SSL dreams.

Also it does munch cpu, but notice theirs only stereo versions and even if you bypass still eats cpu maybe some console patch emu or something. But I rec everyone buy this shit!!!!

[Jantex]

Yeah, I agree, I don't know how at Waves they managed to do it, but these sound top notch and are great tools and instant rock gratification! Better tools than K and M signature, much more useful and versatile. Also saturation is really first class.

[DONNX]

Originally Posted by Cblood

Anybody know why most of the signature plug's are Native only?

Because it alot easier to sell Native than TDM. They are targeting "native" users. Guys who can't afford a real 1176 blue stripe, but can afford a plug in of it. Just starting out guys, home studios, project studios, etc., Those are the majority buying that "signature" stuff.

Business 101. Target your main customers. A guy with real hardware in his racks probably has no urge on having plugins as such... At least I don't. And no offense to guys who love these. Plug ins obviously makes people happy. The guys who _____________. I will let you fill the blank