10th March 2010
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#1 | | Gear Head
Joined: Sep 2009 Location: Southern California
Posts: 43
Thread Starter | Where's the new Mac Pro!!!!!!!!!!!!dammit!
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10th March 2010
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#2 | | Gear nut
Joined: Apr 2009
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I'm in the same boat --- waiting for updated Mac Pros. I'm hoping that they will coincide with Intel's release of the new processors on March 16, but I have a feeling my hope may be misplaced.
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10th March 2010
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#3 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jun 2007 Location: berlin  |
i'm sure you've thought about this but buying a first generation mac is very dangerous .. i learnt this the hard way with my MBP ..
hope you have better luck that me, jeremy
EDIT: and let us know your thought when you get it!
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10th March 2010
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#4 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Nov 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain
Posts: 570
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Same here... desperate, totally desperate... opening Macrumors.com 5-6 times per day...  | |
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10th March 2010
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#5 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,164
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It must be very soon... 
Now Intel is also introducing one single CPU with 8 cores...
Maybe Apple has been waiting to be able to offer a dual 8 core MacPro. Yeah !!!!
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Mac Pro 6 core, 24 GB RAM, 285GTX, AVID HD I/O, UAD-2 Duo Satellite, PT HD3 PCIe ,Control 24, PT HD 10.2.0, 10.6.8
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10th March 2010
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#6 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 530
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Same here!
I hope they don´t skip 2010 and release the next one in January 2011.  | |
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10th March 2010
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#7 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 164
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As an owner of a current 8-core Mac Pro I can tell you that it doesn't matter that much if they came up with 128 core Mac tomorrow.. why ? because EVERYTHING has to be 64-bit before we can fully use those cores. There seems to be no way to fully use even those 8 cores now as I wil run out of memory (4 BG limit on 32 bit systems) before the CPU's give up :-)
Of course one day the plug ins and audio drivers will all be 64 bit and I'm sure that we'll be dreaming of 256 core Macs to help up :-)
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10th March 2010
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#8 | | Gear Head
Joined: Sep 2009 Location: Southern California
Posts: 43
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Dual 8 core!!! holy smack! so then we'd have a 4 core, a 8 core, a 12 core, and a 16 core. well that would have to bring the prices down right? unless the 12 core is $4000 and the 16 core is like $4600!? yikes
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10th March 2010
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#9 | | Gear Head
Joined: May 2009 Location: ATL
Posts: 45
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They will release a new one....probably in the next 2 months. I'm just waiting so the previous gen ones go down in price. I wouldn't buy a brand new one!!!
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10th March 2010
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#10 | | Gear Head
Joined: Sep 2009 Location: Southern California
Posts: 43
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Yeah, same here, waiting for price drops to hopefully get the 8 core. Thats the big question, will they keep the prices and just make the 12 cores that much moreexpensive? or will they drop the prices? the ipad are a lot cheaper than i thought they were gonna be (and cheaper than the would have been in a better economy). but does that mean they will head in the same direction and make the mac pros cheaper? CMON APPLE! THROW ME A FRIGEN BONE HERE!!!
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10th March 2010
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#11 | | Gear Head
Joined: Feb 2008 Location: Zurich, Switzerland
Posts: 46
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Same situation here...
But after the release, i (have to) wait for the "Go" from Digides....Sorry, AVID or my Protools dealer.
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10th March 2010
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#12 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Aug 2005 Location: New England
Posts: 1,853
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I dunno.... 6 core CPU macs will be pricey$.
And a Spring Mac Pro won't likely sport native USB3 or LightPeak. Might as well wait until fall. But then again, when fall comes, there'll 8 core CPUs will be right around the corner, so might as well wait until 2011. Then there'll be talk of Apple's new multi-core A4 chip tailored for OS X... It's gonna pants Intel. No fans, 4x performance.... you GOT to wait until the following spring 2012. However, we'll need a new OS to take advantage of the new A4 Apple chips... hang on a bit more until the fall, maybe Jan 2013. Oh wait... what am I thinking? By then I'm sure Steve will be saying USB and Lightpeak are out, being outdated technology and all...
Have fun with your new Mac Pro 2010!  | |
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10th March 2010
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#13 | | Gear Head
Joined: Sep 2009 Location: Southern California
Posts: 43
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well of course they will keep coming out with better stuff,year after year, season after season, but im ready now so might as well wait for the price drop. right?
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10th March 2010
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#14 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Aug 2005 Location: New England
Posts: 1,853
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Just pokin' fun at Apple's aggressive planned obsolesce policy.
This guy's on to something in regards to Apple's 1Billion$ investment in chip design: Mark's Tech Chat: iPad Saga - Week 6: Apple's Mobile Device Strategy
Personally, I'm sick of Apple changing hardware standards like pants. (ie: chips, display connections, i/o connectivity) For crying out loud, give us customers (and the developers) a break already!
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10th March 2010
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#15 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 3,493
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Originally Posted by yore  As an owner of a current 8-core Mac Pro I can tell you that it doesn't matter that much if they came up with 128 core Mac tomorrow.. why ? because EVERYTHING has to be 64-bit before we can fully use those cores. There seems to be no way to fully use even those 8 cores now as I wil run out of memory (4 BG limit on 32 bit systems) before the CPU's give up :-)
Of course one day the plug ins and audio drivers will all be 64 bit and I'm sure that we'll be dreaming of 256 core Macs to help up :-) | Exactly
add to that the Cstate issues and not being able to multithread correctly until they rewrite the OS
having 32 cores (16 real) or 24(12real) isnt going to do much for anyone.
cant even use the 8 cores(16) they have now...
and i dont see the present systems dropping in price much if at all when they release the 6 or 8 core duals
i just see the price tag going up
Scott
ADK
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10th March 2010
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#16 | | Gear Head
Joined: Sep 2009 Location: Southern California
Posts: 43
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C'mon real deal apple insider, i know you love gearslutz, i know you are keeping something to yourself that would help a few of us. Hop on your buddys pc and create a fake login and spill the beans on the release date, and if you know, the price change. as jimmy would say, " i mean, come oooon"  | |
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10th March 2010
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#17 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Sep 2004 Location: Tuxtla Gutierrez, Chiapas
Posts: 925
| Mac Pro Am .....
They need to make a Mac Pro Am !! (Pro Amatuer) Quad core I7, with 3 pci-e , and 2 PCI slots !! 4 gigs of memory .  Price.. $ 1500 !! They can do this easily... This would be the audio mac....and the super powerfull ones (mac pro ) would be tailered to the video guys !!! come on , Apple !! | |
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10th March 2010
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#19 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Sep 2008 Location: Hollywood
Posts: 222
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Originally Posted by jcschild Exactly
add to that the Cstate issues and not being able to multithread correctly until they rewrite the OS
having 32 cores (16 real) or 24(12real) isnt going to do much for anyone.
cant even use the 8 cores(16) they have now...
and i dont see the present systems dropping in price much if at all when they release the 6 or 8 core duals
i just see the price tag going up
Scott
ADK | Yet....people will be lining up...waiting for the chance at a 12core
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11th March 2010
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#20 | | Gear Head
Joined: Sep 2009 Location: Southern California
Posts: 43
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Damn fantomen you really were checking it 4-5 times a day. Isnt that something. Right when i post a "wheres the Mac pro" theres an announcement. I guess i should post here more often, good things come to slutz that wait!!!!  | |
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11th March 2010
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#22 | | Lives for gear
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11th March 2010
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#23 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Nov 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain
Posts: 570
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Originally Posted by Machinetooth Damn fantomen you really were checking it 4-5 times a day. Isnt that something. Right when i post a "wheres the Mac pro" theres an announcement. I guess i should post here more often, good things come to slutz that wait!!!! |  Yeah, you should start a thread like "where is Eventide native", probably never happen, but you seem to have some kind of "magic influence"! 
So you're thinking on getting the 12-core... me too... I don't want to go through this wait in a very loooooong time.
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11th March 2010
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#24 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Nov 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain
Posts: 570
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Originally Posted by inthere | There are some developers (i.e. Bricasti if I am not mistaken) that claim that their HW is too powerful to be ported to native.... well, with 48 cores I guess you could!  | |
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11th March 2010
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#25 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Oct 2003 Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 700
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11th March 2010
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#26 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Feb 2008 Location: Manchester, England
Posts: 1,359
| This what Casey had to say a few months ago:
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Originally Posted by Casey Here are the facts:
The Bricasti M7 algorithms cannot be run on todays commercial platforms. Better wait 5 years. Even then I doubt it.
The M7 has greater than 20x the performance of any other 1U reverb.
The M7 has 12x the performance of an entire TC 6000.
The M7 has the equivalent processing power of 5 Digidesign Accel CARDS.
If you want the best reverb you need to supply the horsepower. It is a simple fact. Reverb hardware is simply superior at running the best algorithms than the best Intel based platforms.
-Casey | Quote:
Originally Posted by Casey 5X a UAD Quad
Yes you are right, the processing power would be adequate if you allowed two cores to be allocated entirely to the reverb.
The issue is in the rather lackluster memory systems, the multi level cache systems, the CPU access to the memory and cache systems and the fact that all processors share main memory and all cores share multiple levels of cache.
I do not see this changing as Intel is not likely to recognize reverb as the next "killer app". The requirements of reverb are very different from most applications.
Current memory architectures are based on the statistical probability that if a large contiguous block of memory is read from memory then many accesses will be satisfied.
That assumption is the same as building a listening space constructed using 16 X 16 X 16 foot cubes. How do you think the reverb would sound in such a space? 
-Casey | Maybe 48 cores is still not enough, but i think it's getting much closer. Casey, make that M7 plugin!
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11th March 2010
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#27 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,164
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Originally Posted by inthere Maybe 48 cores is still not enough, but i think it's getting much closer. Casey, make that M7 plugin! | Hold your horses. You can put it the other way around.
Take the M7 and let it run ( in theory ) the Logic Multicore Benchmark test. I should guess it will score around 20 tracks compared to the 80-90 tracks a current hi end macPro will score.
So don´t buy everything Casey is saying. He is trying to sell his product. What he means between the lines is that his M7 is able to calculate the algorithms with a minimum of latency but of course an Intel CPU should do it easily too. Maybe 5 algorithms in parallell but with slightly more latency than the M7 hardware. I´m pretty tired to hear that hardware reverbs sound better than plugins. It´s a sad lie. It is due to the Reverb makers to not port their hi-end algorithms to native plugins....until the Lexicon PCM reverb bundle came out...though... I´m still waiting for the VSS4 algorithm to be ported to Powercore and then to native.
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11th March 2010
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#28 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Feb 2006 Location: Paris, France
Posts: 2,082
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Too bad we can't just update our current MacPro's with new processors, memory, etc. (like you can with a PC)  | |
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11th March 2010
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#29 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 3,493
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you wont be able to drop the 8 core EX into present Xeons on a PC.
the 6 core should with a bios update.
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12th March 2010
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#30 | | Gear nut
Joined: Aug 2005 Location: Lancaster, OH
Posts: 90
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Apple store is offline
could it be the new mac pros ? 
or just the iPad pre-order set up  | |
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