hello iPad ... R.I.P. Jazzmutant

[disuye]

This thread is for people who realise that the power of the iPad is not to be found as a laptop replacement. no no no no...

Multi-touch studio VNC or OSC remote, anyone? For 500 bucks?! I'm in.

[disuye]

... and please no comments about how shockingly bad the PR video was ... iProzac anyone? What a bunch of circle-jerk freaks. That is all. Back to discussion:

[hanuman]

Yes, I thought of it yesterday evening as an interface for music software, Interactive TV/Internet and remote control. There will be no 3rd party software so this has to be offered a Iapps.

[yoshimodular]

Well, I do own a Lemur and I think that it's a different beast. No doubt the Lemur is largely overprice (it always was, even when I bought it a couple of years ago), but the touch surface is different and the software is live-bomb-proof. Underneath, I think that iPad is more powerful but the software is to come.

I think that Lemur will survive as vintage multitouch device :-) (if Jazzmutant keeps the drivers updated...)

[dlmorley]

I don't see it beating lemur
I do see it being a brilliant interface and if people make the right apps, it will be a great unit and could do similar stuff to Lemur.

[pdiddy boy]

Originally Posted by dlmorley

I don't see it beating lemur
I do see it being a brilliant interface and if people make the right apps, it will be a great unit and could do similar stuff to Lemur.

Come on, its only a matter of time before the Lemur is put to rest by an ipad Application for controlling Logic Pro and Final Cut Pro to that ...wait and see !

We have now officially entered the beginning of Professional Touch Screen computing... now what everybody else follow !

[warmer]

It's not true 10+ point multi touch though is it?

I'll just wait for the true multi touch monitors to come through later this year myself

[mobius.media]

The only thing I need to touch are physical faders to ride for automation, and I can't imagine how doing that on a screen would be more helpful.

I'm not sure I really get it, except for the 'cool' factor.

[warmer]

if it had true multi touch (not just a few points) then it would make for an interesting controller for VSTi adding expression to the playing, this is what I want but I'll just go for one of the 22" displays that will do this soon.

[kasprouch]

an app that lets you build custom controls for your virtual synths would be sweet.

[whinecellar]

I was waiting for this thread to appear - didn't take long ;-)

I'm in the same boat. I've used this iPhone app...

Snatch Home

...to make custom remotes for Logic, and with all the space available on the iPad, I can foresee it becoming a centerpiece to my custom control surface.

The beauty of Snatch is the customizable GUI; check out the examples on their site. I almost bought a Euphonix MC control just for its touch screen - but for less than half price, the iPad will blow it away for my purposes...

[inthere]

Originally Posted by warmer

It's not true 10+ point multi touch though is it?

I'll just wait for the true multi touch monitors to come through later this year myself

In the video it said it had 1000+ touch points, dunno if that passes your definition but it seems like a lot.

[rackdude]

Originally Posted by inthere

In the video it said it had 1000+ touch points, dunno if that passes your definition but it seems like a lot.

He means 10 can be triggered at the same time, not that there are 10 points to touch on there. I don't know how much multitouch there is.

[work2do]

but how long can the iPad last in the rigors of a professional audio environment getting nonstop use?

[whinecellar]

Originally Posted by konkaos

but how long can the iPad last in the rigors of a professional audio environment getting nonstop use?

My MacBook Pro's trackpad works fine after 3 years, my iPhone works fine after 2 years, I have 5 Macs at my place chugging away 24/7...

Assuming the iPad screen is the same tempered glass variety as the iPhone, I can't imagine its longevity being an issue?

[LX3]

I'd love to see the iPad become the MC Control touchscreen that works.

What if Euphonix developed a customisable EuCon control app for the iPad, working over a WiFi connection? You'd have a full-featured, user-configurable wireless remote control for your DAW.

Bring it on.

[infiniteposse]

Does anyone know if you can get sample-accurate control over wifi or blue-tooth? I was just thinking a virtual MPC kind of thing would be cool. I know there's certainly value to the tactile feeling of proper pads, but the iPad and a laptop would make a pretty great mobile rig and I could just leave the laptop alone to be the brain and the iPad could be the control surface.

[whinecellar]

Originally Posted by LX3

I'd love to see the iPad become the MC Control touchscreen that works.

I know I'll be developing something like that, and depending on response and complexity, I'll either sell it cheap or just offer it as a free template that you can customize for your own needs.

Personally, I have all the MIDI controllers I need, so I'd be happy to just have an iPad filled with dedicated key commands, with a beautiful & intuitive GUI to match. Count on it!

[Izok]

Ipad would be great for the Kyma

[MonoBrow]

Lemur=Unlimited Touchpoints. Ipad=5 Touchpoints

Lemur=Sturdy live enclosure. Ipad=Needs a sturdy stand or if you want to use the accelerometer one where you can easily remove it and put it back

Lemur=Network connection. Ipad wifi(maybe usb) Wifi on a stage with lots of people on cellphones with wifi+tonns of other equipment?

Lemur=Physics enabled. Ipad= would need a lot of development on this.

I think i know what i prefer.

[tysonviolin]

I can't really do more than 5 things at once so 5 touch points is fine.
3 iPads= $2100
Lemur =$2000
I think I could build quite a control surface with 3 iPads (trusting that the software becomes available). I won't be running out to grab a Lemur or a Euphonix

[pdiddy boy]

The Euphonix Controllers ...lets be honest, has been over priced for just 8 faders ! Which is why I went back to the old school and found a used Tascam US-2400 which works great in Logic Pro by the way. The Lemur, although another great product is quite expensive. The ipad is the way forward !

[whinecellar]

Originally Posted by tysonviolin

3 iPads= $2100

Assuming the $499 model, 3 iPads = $1500. Not that you would even need 3 of them: the iPhone app I used to create my Logic controller allows multiple pages of controls with a simple swipe gesture, so with some organization you could have 160-200 key commands PER PAGE on an iPad, and if you really wanted to get crazy, you have multiple screens (pages) available...

[PhonoquO]

steve got it all wrong with the way hepresented the device. he illustrated it's potential doing basic mundane tasks that can already be done with the iphone / touch. why not show it doing something innovative like remote controlling software etc? sure the benefits of the surface for people like us might be great, but i'm sure audio and video guys don't make up the majority of the target market.

[Llitsor]

Originally Posted by PhonoquO

steve got it all wrong with the way hepresented the device. he illustrated it's potential doing basic mundane tasks that can already be done with the iphone / touch. why not show it doing something innovative like remote controlling software etc? sure the benefits of the surface for people like us might be great, but i'm sure audio and video guys don't make up the majority of the target market.

I think Steve knows what he is doing. That said! .... You do have a point, and it was the presentation that perhaps made even me think that it was nothing more than an XXL iPod touch. It will be the apps that make this thing.. Just like with the iPhone. I thought it quite unexciting until the app store came along.
I'd not be surprised to see a new version of things like TouchOSC that take better advantage of the extra screen real estate.
Still, I wish it was a little more 'Macintosh' and a little less 'iPhone' though.. Currently it's that bit too dumbed down for my tastes. But then it is also quite inexpensive by Apple standards. So six of one, and half a dozen of the other..
I think the next year or 2 will be very interesting for the iPad.. thumbsup

[work2do]

Originally Posted by disuye

This thread is for people who realise that the power of the iPad is not to be found as a laptop replacement. no no no no...

Multi-touch studio VNC or OSC remote, anyone? For 500 bucks?! I'm in.

I think we may be jumping the gun. The ipad has no ethernet or firewire or usb to connect to ur computer. You will have to control your Daw thru WiFi. Many who use midi/hui think that is too slow and prefer ethernet connections.

Controlling ur daw thru WiFi is going to be alot slower than a midi connection. I dont see how this will work until Apple does a Rev 2 and adds a physical connection.

[musimedia]

Exactly what I tought when I first saw the iPad.

I love my iPod touch for one big reason... I can controll Cubase from my drum room, wirelessly from this tiny device (for free! Thanks
Steinberg!!!or should I say Yamaha?)

the choice was easy between a Tranzport and an iPod... I don't really like one trick ponys unless that one trick is spectacular.

lots of possibilities to use that iPod for DAW control and stuff... even more with the iPad's bigger screen. but man..... I still have to say that it's really just a big iPod touch... not a one trick pony but nothing new or exciting....sorry just no wow factor until I get a full 16 track DAW with minimum stereo recording possibilities and a little DSP for Channel EQ, a bit of dynamics control and at least one effect send on that iPad.

ok, so... who votes for a port of let's say...Reaper for iphone...uh..sorry... iPad.

With a 1Ghz CPU it should be enough for a basic 1/2 tracks record, 16 tracks playback with channel EQ and one reverb? People have done masterpieces on alot less!

???

call it PadDaw, songpad or something... and give it two windows.... one that looks like a 16 track analog unit and the other one like a simple virtual mixer ! make it fun!!!

man... I just just shut up and do it myself!!!!

nah.... ok.... I'm talking to myself here....

cheers!

[gregwar]

yep, in the hands of studio owners and middle aged women everywhere . .

[PhonoquO]

what bothers me is how they gouge you for minute memory amounts. 16 gigs more for $ 100 more?

[tysonviolin]

Originally Posted by pdiddy boy

The Euphonix Controllers ...lets be honest, has been over priced for just 8 faders ! Which is why I went back to the old school and found a used Tascam US-2400 which works great in Logic Pro by the way. The Lemur, although another great product is quite expensive. The ipad is the way forward !

my tascam 2400 isnt working at all with logic right now. I'm not sure whats going on. Anyway, I agree that the iPad or something like it is the customizable flexible system of the future for DAW and Midi control.