could it be the DIGI-003??? pic

nukmusic · 15th October 2005

http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_u...ixIO-main.html

Maybe it is. Maybe Protools Le is being moved over to the M-Powered name forever? It even has word clock and works with must of the DAW brands on the market.

Quote:

Compatiblitity

Pro Tools M-Powered 7^ or greater

All Pro Tools systems (MIDI control only)

Logic*

Cubase*

Ableton Live 5 or greater^

Digital Performer*^

SONAR*^

ASIO 2

GSIF 2

Core Audio

* DAW software version must support Mackie Control, Logic Control or HUI protocol.
^Support provided after product launch via free downloadable firmware upgrade; see this page and Support>Drivers section soon for availability.

AlexLakis · 15th October 2005

Ahhh, as the world turns...Now that they have M-Audio working on hardware, maybe Digi can spend a little more time working on their software (it took em long enough to get SHIFT-CLICK down!

) With PT7, things are lookin up...

max cooper · 15th October 2005

Has this character been seen on the street? Anyone checked out the build quality? I mean, I can kinda predict, just curious. It does look workable, fer sure.

nukmusic · 16th October 2005

I'm just wondering if the real Digi003 is coming soon? with WORD CLOCK?

zimv20 · 16th October 2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by nukmusic

I'm just wondering if the real Digi003 is coming soon? with WORD CLOCK?

how about an AES interface?

Jenre · 16th October 2005

If they're willing to give this much on a new M-Audio interface then the new Digi ones should be good.

max cooper · 16th October 2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by zimv20

how about an AES interface?

Yeah, and btw, is there a way to convert signals from AES to S/PDIF?

I didn't think so.

espasonico · 16th October 2005

Does this thing support 96kHz ?

Thanks !

AdamJay · 16th October 2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by max cooper

Yeah, and btw, is there a way to convert signals from AES to S/PDIF?

I didn't think so.

i think so,
http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/CO3-main.html

Dangerous Dave · 16th October 2005

Max,

It can I have one of these :

http://www.rme-audio.com/english/adi/adi192dd.htm

kmshroom · 16th October 2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jenre

If they're willing to give this much on a new M-Audio interface then the new Digi ones should be good.

That's what I'm thinking/hoping. Obviously converter and preamp quality isn't going to be as nice as 002 stuff, and there's less fancy LEDs around the knobs, but this is good enough that the 002's days are numbered, and the 003 has got to do that much more to prove that it should exist, in the same company at that.

It's also prettier than the 002..

Sui_City · 16th October 2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by max cooper

Yeah, and btw, is there a way to convert signals from AES to S/PDIF?

I didn't think so.

Max,

It's called a cable

Sorry, just being full of it, but it's true.

You can link a AES port to a SPDIF port via an XLR-to-RCA cable. It has been stated by both Dan Lavry and Fletcher on the Mercenary site that as long as the cable is shorter than 6 foot, you're fine.

Faderjockey · 17th October 2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmshroom

That's what I'm thinking/hoping. Obviously converter and preamp quality isn't going to be as nice as 002 stuff, and there's less fancy LEDs around the knobs, but this is good enough that the 002's days are numbered, and the 003 has got to do that much more to prove that it should exist, in the same company at that.

It's also prettier than the 002..

Not sure about that one...I don't see the Converters being less quality then the Digi002. not sure what to think about the pres...But for cheap converters the M-Audio stuff is ok. I mean I know guys cutting stuff with M-box's and I don't think they sound that great at all..smeary.

I guess we will just have to wait and see.. I'd like one to just use as a controller.

kmshroom · 17th October 2005

The converters on the 002 are worlds better than the MBox 1's converters, not even close to the same league. If you've got some good chops, you can do well with 002 converters and pres. M-Audio's converters and pres up til now have not even been near close to 002 quality, and it'd be a huge jump for this thing to get to that level.

muddy · 17th October 2005

let me break to you gently what the rest of us have known for yonks; they're both shite. saying the 002's converters are better than the m-audio's is the same as saying chef boy-ar-dee is better than franco american. oh, and the same goes for the pre's.

ml

Faderjockey · 17th October 2005

Well..I no buddies at another studio got a hold of one of the berhinger digimax type of things..The did a test between the digi002 and that... the Berhinger sounded cleaner.. So..That was my impression of the 002 converters... I've never used an 002 so I can't say...I've had a TDM system for a long time.. But I have tried the dfegad M-box..Didn't like it.

So I guess I can't really say anything bad about the 002 because I haven't recorded to it. But I know tons of people trying to figure out ways not to use it and buy other converters. So I guess that makes me lean one way..

But when I say M-audio would be better...Well like Muddy said...It aint gonna be much better.

kmshroom · 17th October 2005

Way to be courteous and respectful. Geez, you can't be nice to people?

I have had, in my studio for converters, the following for the past two years; 002rack, Apogee Rosetta 800 (for the past year, before that I had the RME ADI-8), Apogee Mini-Me, and Apogee Mini-DAC. Also, for most of last year, I had an MBox 1 too.

The MBox 1 and 002rack are no comparison. The 002rack is no comparison to Apogee either. But the 002rack is much better than MBox 1 and M-Audio gear, as I've also used various M-Audio gear in the past.

The 002rack is 'good enough' that if you can't get pretty decent sounding stuff with it, there's something wrong with you, not the equipment.

Good day, and I leave you to your snobby and condescending ways.

muddy · 17th October 2005

excuse me for being honest, but if you seriously think digi's converters are "worlds better/not even in the same league," you'd best take a closer look at what the professional community is makin' records with. i'm not saying you CAN"T make an album with inferior gear (christ, i'd be eradicating some very monumental & seminal recordings in one fell swoop if i did!), and it certainly wouldn't stop me if it were all i could afford, but given the budgets, by and large, no one is proving your point for you. if you talk to a GOOD manufacturer/builder/designer, and they cost the parts & work for you, you'd know that digi & m-audio just aren't devoting the funds to make decent converters a reality. that's not snobbery, it's just the cold, hard reality of it. if you're gonna make big, grandiose statements like"worlds better...," you ought to know what you're talking about. the diff between digi & m-audio, and those 2 vs apogee, mytek, lavry, et. al., now THOSE are worlds apart comparisons.

ml

Jonboy79 · 17th October 2005

Hey faderjockey the behringer digimax thing is the ada8000 and anyone who told you the pre's in it are cleaner than the digi's is deaf, or just plain stupid. I work with both every single day and I'm constantly looking for ways to avoid using the behringer. In fact I did a/b test on distorted and clean guitars and the band i did it for could tell a huge difference instantly, they all hands down picked the 002 pre's.

Faderjockey · 17th October 2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonboy79

Hey faderjockey the behringer digimax thing is the ada8000 and anyone who told you the pre's in it are cleaner than the digi's is deaf, or just plain stupid. I work with both every single day and I'm constantly looking for ways to avoid using the behringer. In fact I did a/b test on distorted and clean guitars and the band i did it for could tell a huge difference instantly, they all hands down picked the 002 pre's.

Well that could be.... Like I said..I didn't use it. First of all it says Berhinger on it..nuff said.

max cooper · 17th October 2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sui_City

Max,

It's called a cable

Sorry, just being full of it, but it's true.

You can link a AES port to a SPDIF port via an XLR-to-RCA cable. It has been stated by both Dan Lavry and Fletcher on the Mercenary site that as long as the cable is shorter than 6 foot, you're fine.

O/T, but I had been told it was impossible. I'm soldering now!

Thanks!

kmshroom · 18th October 2005

Wow, this thread became a waste of time quickly. Off to more important things.

jdunn · 18th October 2005

Max. Another method is to buy a little 75ohm -> 110 ohm transformer. Neutrik makes them, Aardvark sells them, etc... I'm pretty sure that either Pacific Radio or Electronic City will have these.

Your cable may be no problem, but you might try a tranformer just to see if there's any audible difference. It might sound a little better.

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muddy Gear addict Joined: Jul 2002 Location: N.Y.C./L.I.C. Posts: 499	let me break to you gently what the rest of us have known for yonks; they're both shite. saying the 002's converters are better than the m-audio's is the same as saying chef boy-ar-dee is better than franco american. oh, and the same goes for the pre's. ml __________________ when the tides of life turn against you, & the current upsets your boat, don't waste those tears on what might have been, just lay on your back & float... "no, no, you're all confused. it's not the sun that's goin' down, it's the hori-ZON that's movin' up!" - firesign theatre "...i don't possess a mansion, a villa in france, a yacht, or a string of polopponies." - E.N.

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AlexLakis Lives for gear Joined: Mar 2005 Location: Annapolis, MD/Los Angeles, CA Posts: 3,631	Ahhh, as the world turns...Now that they have M-Audio working on hardware, maybe Digi can spend a little more time working on their software (it took em long enough to get SHIFT-CLICK down! ) With PT7, things are lookin up...

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max cooper Lives for gear Joined: Aug 2004 Location: tx Posts: 8,802	Has this character been seen on the street? Anyone checked out the build quality? I mean, I can kinda predict, just curious. It does look workable, fer sure.

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nukmusic Lives for gear Joined: Jun 2004 Location: Dallas, TX / New Orleans, LA Posts: 4,667 Thread Starter	I'm just wondering if the real Digi003 is coming soon? with WORD CLOCK?

16th October 2005	#6
Jenre Gear maniac Joined: Sep 2005 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 280	If they're willing to give this much on a new M-Audio interface then the new Digi ones should be good.

16th October 2005	#8
espasonico Lives for gear Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 663	Does this thing support 96kHz ? Thanks !

17th October 2005	#14
kmshroom Gear maniac Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 267	The converters on the 002 are worlds better than the MBox 1's converters, not even close to the same league. If you've got some good chops, you can do well with 002 converters and pres. M-Audio's converters and pres up til now have not even been near close to 002 quality, and it'd be a huge jump for this thing to get to that level.

17th October 2005	#16
Faderjockey Lives for gear Joined: Aug 2002 Location: Baltimore Posts: 1,969	Well..I no buddies at another studio got a hold of one of the berhinger digimax type of things..The did a test between the digi002 and that... the Berhinger sounded cleaner.. So..That was my impression of the 002 converters... I've never used an 002 so I can't say...I've had a TDM system for a long time.. But I have tried the dfegad M-box..Didn't like it. So I guess I can't really say anything bad about the 002 because I haven't recorded to it. But I know tons of people trying to figure out ways not to use it and buy other converters. So I guess that makes me lean one way.. But when I say M-audio would be better...Well like Muddy said...It aint gonna be much better.

17th October 2005	#19
Jonboy79 Lives for gear Joined: Sep 2005 Location: St. Louis MO Posts: 2,636	Hey faderjockey the behringer digimax thing is the ada8000 and anyone who told you the pre's in it are cleaner than the digi's is deaf, or just plain stupid. I work with both every single day and I'm constantly looking for ways to avoid using the behringer. In fact I did a/b test on distorted and clean guitars and the band i did it for could tell a huge difference instantly, they all hands down picked the 002 pre's.

18th October 2005	#22
kmshroom Gear maniac Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 267	Wow, this thread became a waste of time quickly. Off to more important things.

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jdunn Head of Bumping Security (B.S) Joined: Feb 2004 Location: in the hills of Southern California Posts: 2,944	Max. Another method is to buy a little 75ohm -> 110 ohm transformer. Neutrik makes them, Aardvark sells them, etc... I'm pretty sure that either Pacific Radio or Electronic City will have these. Your cable may be no problem, but you might try a tranformer just to see if there's any audible difference. It might sound a little better.