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Old 1st January 2010   #1
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Exclamation Ableton - Mixing, Mastering and Latency

I have some basic questions about mixing/mastering in Ableton (or any DAW for that matter) and latency.

I'm finishing a song which has multiple tracks and each track has a number of plugins.

1. I'm assuming I'm hearing the tracks that have plugins with latency? So, does this mean there's an audible delay? Or is the DAW compensating and playing everything back at the same time?

2. What if you have some tracks with plugins and other tracks without plugins? Is there latency on just the tracks with plugins? Are some tracks out of sync with others?

3. When you freeze a track - does that remove the latency on that track?

4. When you bounce the entire composition down to a two track (by exporting), does the software compensate for all plugins, line things up and remove latency?

What I ultimately want to do is use my A&H GL2400 mixer to sum all the tracks together instead of exporting to 2-track. So, I wanted to run all the tracks out of Ableton to the mixer - but that doesn't really help if some tracks are out of sync with others due to plugin latency.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

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hi

ableton has latency compensation which works really well.
things should all be synched perfectly! allthough one little thing i recently discovered while mixing songs for a band: after freezing and internal bouncing the freezed track there was something like a delay or pre-delay
(it was on the vocal double channel, which i almost didn't notice until i muted lead vox) which i then corrected by (pre)delay on the channel.

i actually have to write ableton about this, since it was really wondering me aswell. besides that, as i said: everything is "usually" synched, no matter how much latency the plugins have. i work with live since 4 years and synching is surely a big strength of ableton.

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hi

ableton has latency compensation which works really well.
things should all be synched perfectly! allthough one little thing i recently discovered while mixing songs for a band: after freezing and internal bouncing the freezed track there was something like a delay or pre-delay
(it was on the vocal double channel, which i almost didn't notice until i muted lead vox) which i then corrected by (pre)delay on the channel.

i actually have to write ableton about this, since it was really wondering me aswell. besides that, as i said: everything is "usually" synched, no matter how much latency the plugins have. i work with live since 4 years and synching is surely a big strength of ableton.

HNY!
so if you freeze/flatten the tracks dont sync?

edit - this may have been resolved already in 8.1.1

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BUGFIXES:

Recording via 'Resampling' would not properly compensate latency. [6124]
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so if you freeze/flatten the tracks dont sync?

edit - this may have been resolved already in 8.1.1

i'm still with 7 but yeah, seems so. it's not too dramatic but needs to be checked and corrected with (pre)delay ms adjustments, which i can live with for now.

i see your attached info...so it seems it's solved.
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