Logic 10 - What do you want?

[FLYINGJAY]

Originally Posted by hugol

Well I don't think it's as simple as knowing how to write good code - starting from scratch obviously meant they could use the latest frameworks and techniques optimised to take advantage of today's hardware (and OS features).

So yeah agreed, Logic is just old, and has no doubt lots of baggage to contend with and whilst I'm sure they've done stirling work re-working key aspects, I agree it probably needs a ground-up re-write to be truly optimised for today's multi-core CPUs/accelerated graphics/enhanced CPU instruction sets.

+1

Code is a tricky thing,even though Cubase has Nuendo engine-Nuendo still utilize multicore system resources better.

Also response seem sharper when navigating threw my 64 bit daw,opposed to my 32 bit daw.

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[FLYINGJAY]

Originally Posted by FredFraikin

Haha ok!
Maybe I'm missing something here, but my point is not just to have the audio files converted, but the whole session with one click ready to be shared on for ex. a local network or a server
You're a long time user so you know that features have been added for more than a decade on basically the same platform/skeleton spread all over the menus and sub menus not necessarily in a logical way. Even long time users like us are still discovering new ways and features, so for a new comer it must be an adventure.

My point is the next level of the Logic board should start with " let's make this baby easier and more straight forward so people that are discovering it will love it in an instant and the "veterans" will turn exclusively to it because of it's powerful features and it simplicity of use".
The few remarks I've mention in my earlier post are the one keeping a lot of ProTools users to make the big jump into Logic...it's about the workflow.

F.

I'm just back tracking on this thread,and I too feel exactly the same way!

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[kevaquarian]

Originally Posted by FLYINGJAY

Watch out for TROLLS/guardians...

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What are trolls/guardians in this context please? (This is not a sarcastic question - I truly don't get it - forgive my ignorance!)

Thanks.

[FLYINGJAY]

Originally Posted by kevaquarian

What are trolls/guardians in this context please? (This is not a sarcastic question - I truly don't get it - forgive my ignorance!)

Thanks.

I p.m'ed you.

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[scruffydog]

APPLE....APPLE...For version 10 i want:

1.....allow me to turn on/off the stupid multi function mouse cursor...it can waste as much time as it is supposed to save...

2.....Fix the darn sync ''All Midi Output'' delay so that it stays on the setting it is put on INCLUDING the decimal.....BASIC...come on!!!!!..i WANT 13.4......NOT 13...NOT 14.....BUT 13.4......thats the setting i want....BUT IT ROUNDS DOWN TO 13 as soon as i close the preference box...this is BEYOND rank.....THIS IS JUST SAD
As a result Ableton is a much tighter package whilst working with external synths and a firwire Desk..(Midas Venice F)

[bytehoven]

Please no FCP X type update.

A few things I'd love to see...

- object programming option for non-linear song creation

- call me crazy, but I'd love to see the arrange window have the option to rotate orientation to vertical tracking with the mixer faders below and in alignment with each track. Talk about becoming more intuitive for mixing. Sure, editing in the arrangement window would require some getting used to but I would love such an option.

- let us separate the "media" screen from the arrange window so it can be displayed on a 2nd monitor.

[nativeaudio]

Originally Posted by bytehoven

- object programming option for non-linear song creation

Use folders?

- call me crazy

You are crazy. :-)
I'd like to see the piano roll flipped 90 degrees, so it looks like an actual piano.

let us separate the "media" screen from the arrange window so it can be displayed on a 2nd monitor.

Just grab it (by it's header) with the mouse, and move it where you want. This goes for the lists as well, + the editors at the bottom of the page (Mixer, Piano Roll etc).

ETA: you need to remove the Bin in the right margin manually, eg. by clicking b.

[Mini-Dan]

Originally Posted by nativeaudio

I'd like to see the piano roll flipped 90 degrees, so it looks like an actual piano.

Glad you mentioned it, it was one of the first things I noticed after moving from c-lab Notator.

//Dan

[jeikkonen]

I want it out as soon as possible.

[dergit]

All that really drives me nuts in Logic 9 is not being able to move channels around in the mixer without creating arrange tracks for all of them. I can't comprehend why this is the case and it's quite irritating.

Oh, that and the clicks and pops in Mountain Lion. Yeah. Those are pretty bad, too.

[SergioMartins]

Strange, i have Mountain Lion and i dont have click issues, just some freezing sometimes.

[bytehoven]

Thanks!!!

Originally Posted by nativeaudio

Use folders?


You are crazy. :-)
I'd like to see the piano roll flipped 90 degrees, so it looks like an actual piano.



Just grab it (by it's header) with the mouse, and move it where you want. This goes for the lists as well, + the editors at the bottom of the page (Mixer, Piano Roll etc).

ETA: you need to remove the Bin in the right margin manually, eg. by clicking b.

[emilision]

Originally Posted by dergit

All that really drives me nuts in Logic 9 is not being able to move channels around in the mixer without creating arrange tracks for all of them. I can't comprehend why this is the case and it's quite irritating.

Same, I have so many empty arrange tracks just for this reason...clutter, ugh.

[dergit]

Originally Posted by emilision

Same, I have so many empty arrange tracks just for this reason...clutter, ugh.

The annoying part is, when you hide them, the re-arrangement goes away in the mixer, too.

[pinkheadedbug]

It would be nice not to have this kind of thing (latest Logic, latest OS X, happened today) remind me why I use now Studio One.

[scruffydog]

Originally Posted by dergit

All that really drives me nuts in Logic 9 is not being able to move channels around in the mixer without creating arrange tracks for all of them. I can't comprehend why this is the case and it's quite irritating.

Oh, that and the clicks and pops in Mountain Lion. Yeah. Those are pretty bad, too.

definately!
it actually is a big problem to those of us who are not such free thinkers!
the virtual console aspect should be completely user friendly..
the ability to place a few faders together in any order as the song progresses would really help.
sounds simple but i expect it is impossible.

[Sim]

Originally Posted by dergit

The annoying part is, when you hide them, the re-arrangement goes away in the mixer, too.

Hide you tracks in arrange then click the "all" view button in the mixer I'm not sure if they wil stay in the same order though but it's worth a try.

[sambosun]

Originally Posted by raymondwave

After using Studio One for a few weeks, I've grown to appreciate it's lightning fast and snappy audio engine. You can jump back and forth and there is no gap, even with relatively high CPU load. The GUI feels more responsive too, Logic is a bit sticky.

So.. would love to see Logic with snappier gui and audio engine. Wouldn't mind possibility to switch automation parameter by a shortcut too.

I second that. I've realized two sound tracks in Studio One recently. Awesome how responsive S1 is under high CPU load no errors no crashes.

Things I wish for Logic in the future:

1a. Snappy audio engine, so if I create or change cycle markers audio should react as fast as midi to that. S1,Nuendo,Reaper can do that. Why not Logic?

1b. once the audio engine reacts faster or snappier scrubbing audio should work like it was intended to. Smooth scrubbing without logic getting crazy never really worked.

2. Collapsable folders for working with high track count

3. Track list like S1,Reaper,Pro Tools have it. Useful for navigating and hiding Tracks/Channel strips incl a list filter like Reaper has it.

4. Being able to rearrange multiple channel strips in the mixer without creating an arrange track for them.

5. !!!!! Being able to select multiple tracks in the arrange page/view to move them, pack them in collapsable or region folders, to change parameter values etc !!!!

6. I really like the lunar kit interface of Final Cut X. Maybe it's just me but when composing to picture I really appreciate a smoother and darker skin to concentrate on the important parts of my work. Why is everything so gray. Oh and S1 has the same issue it's a bit ugly on the eye

[claesbjo]

^ this pretty much sums it up

[reflixtinian]

Logic 9 is great ...... actually since I write music for commercials , never went back to pro tools for "audio editing" ......really!!!!

I don't want to move back to pro tools again....i wanna stay logic ...i just wish logic x doesn't turn into a shitty app for iphone.....

I'd like to see improved audio post feautures in logic X .. please...

Better mixer (groups) , new samples , loops , BIGGER letters, I'm getting blind.

thanks

[sambosun]

Take a sneak peak on Contries

[Jimmy kiddo]

What I want in logic x is a virtual Quincy jones producer a la SIRI , that warns me when I'm screwing up a production , and patiently help me to get my beats sound like billy jean !

[KorgAddict]

Originally Posted by sambosun

Attachment 312103

Take a sneak peak on Contries

As i said elsewhere, a contry is a place where con men live!!

KA

[Todeswalzer]

What i want from Logic 10? Bet it's been said above but.... Longer faders and movable busses -.-

Haven't used Logic much, so please enlighten a poor soul who use ProTools most of the time for mixing

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[pieca]

I just want full screen & external video @ 64bit
Exporting audio to movie @ 64 bit would be great too…

That's all for me

[NoVi]

I would like to have a possibility to "overlapped region to new tracks" for just one source track, so 1 source track and destination tracks as needed. Now it works for all tracks (at least I haven't found a possibility to restrict it).

[Mr XY]

Originally Posted by Todeswalzer

What i want from Logic 10? Bet it's been said above but.... Longer faders and movable busses -.-

Haven't used Logic much, so please enlighten a poor soul who use ProTools most of the time for mixing

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just in case you missed this- you can move the busses - you have to make them viewable in the arrange window (right click on the bus in the mixer and you have the option to do so), then you can move it around wherever you want from within the arrange page.

[sambosun]

Originally Posted by Mr XY

just in case you missed this- you can move the busses - you have to make them viewable in the arrange window (right click on the bus in the mixer and you have the option to do so), then you can move it around wherever you want from within the arrange page.

But have you ever moved 10 tracks at once up or downwards in a large session? Any other daw lets you select multiple tracks and move them. In logic you have to re-arrange every track one by one.

Ive used a workaround in the past. But you have to create regions on all tracks and pack them into a region folder, then move that folder up or downwards in your session and unpack it. Thats for sure cumbersome.

I am pretty sure the next version of logic will address this.

[NoVi]

Yes, I hope so. Some common practices to make selections or move objects around so really be available.

[cowudders]

If Apple updates the 'realtime audio audio engine', so it can take advantage of more than one processor, I'm happy.