So, I think I may have jumped the gun and bought Pro Tools 8 for my PPC G5

[Dennis]

I finally decided to 'upgrade' to PT8 yesterday, bought the download via Avid and when i tried to load it it said I needed to have OS X 10.5 after trying to find the OS X 10.5 download I think I now realize I can't run 8 on my 2.0 Dual Core G5. Is this right.

If so this is a bummer. Any suggestions? Is there anyway to return the download? Why didn't I do this research BEFORE. I got too excited. UGH! HELP!!

[Larry Mal]

"I finally decided to 'upgrade' to PT8 yesterday, bought the download via Avid and when i tried to load it it said I needed to have OS X 10.5 after trying to find the OS X 10.5 download I think I now realize I can't run 8 on my 2.0 Dual Core G5. Is this right."

Welcome to the world of Pro Tools, where any little thing can break and the only solution is to pull out your wallet.

But I don't understand: do you have OS X 10.5 or what? PT8 will only work on 10.5.8, 7.4 will only work on 10.5.7 or below. But you can run those OS's on your system, right? Or are you on Tiger?

I'm sure you can get your money back if you bitch long enough to a faceless corporation, if that sounds like something you really want to do. But what exactly is your problem?

[Dennis]

Nope, I don't have 10.5, that's Leopard or Snow Leopard right? I am using Tiger. I think I have the latest version of that.

I went to the Avid site and it looks like I can get a return on the download if I sign a 'letter of destruction' or something to that effect. I e-mailed them and I'll let ya know what I hear.

But I'm still not clear, what is the latest OS X you can use on a 2.0 Dual Core PPC G5?

[Larry Mal]

You can use any of the Leopard OS's, that is, any of the 10.5 releases. Snow Leopard is only Intel Macs, it is the 10.6.

So you could upgrade to Leopard and still keep Pro Tools 8 by moving to 10.5.8. You could probably find a cheap copy of Leopard out there now, you'd probably be out $30 or so.

As far as installing one operating system over another, I've heard it can potentially cause problems, but I've done it four times now and had no issues whatsoever. But I want you to be apprised of what the situation is, so you can read up and make a decision.

Otherwise, you can move to another DAW, or stay with PT 7. Whatever you decide, good luck with it.

[Rumpel]

I don't see your problem . I run PT 8, and Leopard on a dual 867 G4!

Install Leopard onto your G5 machine.

The only issue to consider is how many plugs and VI's you can run, which would obviously be less than if you were using an intel mac.

[macmuse]

Call them and ask for PT 7.xx that will work on Tiger. I had called them once with a pre-sales question and they said as long as you are a registered user, they will provide whatever version you require; i.e. if you bought 8 but needed 7 to be compatible with your computer. Whether they do it or not, I don't know, but at least that is what they said.

[Dennis]

OK, so if buy and install Leopard I should be good to run PT8?

[Rumpel]

Originally Posted by Dennis

OK, so if buy and install Leopard I should be good to run PT8?

If you install Leopard, you will be good to run PT8.

[shanabit]

Originally Posted by Dennis

OK, so if buy and install Leopard I should be good to run PT8?

Up to the current release of 8.0.1 thats it per digi

[Larry Mal]

Yeah, Digi is stopping support for some things and I don't know what they are yet, but PT 8 runs on Leopard. I don't think any of it is supported on Snow Leopard yet, which you can't run anyway on PPC.

But if you want to use Pro Tools, get into the habit of making it the highest priority of your computer. Don't change anything- I mean anything- without making sure it is sanctioned by Digidesign.

But, frankly, you've had a little taste of what it will be like, why not just go with another DAW, all of which handle things like this better. An X.X.01 OS update isn't an issue for any of the other ones. I found it astounding that I couldn't run Pro Tools 7.4 on Mac OS 10.5.8, but I could run it on 10.5.7. Guess what the solution was? Buying Pro Tools 8. Which then later doesn't run on Snow Leopard, well, it does, but not 8.01, only 8, and that's buggy and not supported and... Christ, give me a break. I use Logic, and Digital Performer, and Final Cut, and Ableton, and none of these have these issues.

The arrogance of Avid and Digidesign is astonishing.

[psycho_monkey]

Originally Posted by Larry Mal

I found it astounding that I couldn't run Pro Tools 7.4 on Mac OS 10.5.8, but I could run it on 10.5.7. Guess what the solution was? Buying Pro Tools 8. Which then later doesn't run on Snow Leopard, well, it does, but not 8.01, only 8, and that's buggy and not supported and... Christ, give me a break. I use Logic, and Digital Performer, and Final Cut, and Ableton, and none of these have these issues.

The arrogance of Avid and Digidesign is astonishing.

Ah, the ol' digi backlash.

As for your situation, actually the solution could be re-install 10.5.7 couldn't it? no cash required...

It's hardly Digi's fault if the OP didn't read the system specs and realise they needed Leopard to run PT8. It's been clearly advertised.

FWIW there's a pre-release (8.0.3pr)for Snow Leopard that works ok according to most. I for one would rather a manufacturer states something ISN'T supported than say it is when it doesn't work properly (yet). Everyone complains about how digi software requires this and that...and yet, when you actually set it up like they recommend...hey! it works! it doesn't crash! Again, I'd prefer that the other manufacurers did this, then, maybe they'd be a bit more stable too.

Digi also has never claimed not to have other MUSIC software installed - there's never been a problem having Logic, Ableton, Reason etc on the same machine. And actually for macs...any software really! if only Microsoft didn't break things routinely with crap like IE8, then all would be fine.

It's hardly surprising Logic already supports Snow leopard - it's made by the same company! Maybe they had access to the OS ahead of time?! And still it's bug ridden and crash prone!

PT8 runs fine on G5.

I thank you for listening.

[jmarkham]

Originally Posted by Dennis

Nope, I don't have 10.5, that's Leopard or Snow Leopard right? I am using Tiger. I think I have the latest version of that.

I went to the Avid site and it looks like I can get a return on the download if I sign a 'letter of destruction' or something to that effect. I e-mailed them and I'll let ya know what I hear.

But I'm still not clear, what is the latest OS X you can use on a 2.0 Dual Core PPC G5?

10.5 is Leopard ...
10.6 is Snow Leopard

But, if you get Leopard, you will be able to run PT 8 on your dual core G5
just fine... I do every day.

jeff