Originally Posted by Coyoteous
I guess my price questions were ignored. I've been reading up on Ardour... SAE, SSL, Harrison. A variation seems to be the basis for the software end of the Harrison Xdubber.
It wasn't ignored, it is just that there isn't an answer as of yet I don't believe. As I mentioned I am not qualified to answer, and I suspect Harrison is still feeling things out as this is a bit different than their 'normal' business model.
And yes you are correct, the XDubber also uses a version of Ardour modified by Harrison specifically for that task. Some of Ardour's development has been funded by Harrison specifically to make sure the functionality they wanted was in it(Tape Tracks for instance). They then modified the UI to fit for the purpose they needed it for.
The same amount of customization also went into Mixbus. There was some specific work done to support Mixbus itself, the DSP as well as some specific features in Ardour seperate from the DSP. Some of this Harrison did themselves, some of it Paul from Ardour did. The Harrison team also customized the UI of Ardour, removing some of the flexibility, but also making it much easier to use as a result and concentrating on where Ardour was strongest(Stereo instead of multichannel) to bring out what many people would call a more polished product.
I am not an employee of Harrison, just one of their beta testers. I can tell you I was perfectly happy with the sound of it, but I have also not mixed on a Harrison console to be able to compare. My understanding is that the code from the DSP is exactly the same as you will find in the Harrison digital consoles. I could be wrong, but I certainly didn't have much complaint about it, and it did mean I am going to invest in this rather than other channel strip plugins, as it does just work for me.
And what's up with all those companies deciding to only develop for the mac platform? Ignoring over 50% of your potential customer base?
In this case it is practicality. Because Ardour is developed and supported on Linux and Mac, that means that many of the editing functions have been being tested for the past several years on those platforms, and since they already existed why re-invent the wheel? That is part of the beauty of open source software.
I also don't like the fact that you have to run another program "jack". Its all sounding a little amateur. When I saw the Harrison name I was hoping for something that lifts the bar
Hopefully I'm missing something?
I think/suspect you are a little, and that is what Jack accomplishes. Jack is probably closest to the ReWire protocol in the commercial world. On OS X because of Jack you can route any CoreAudio software or hardware into Ardour, or Ardour out to any software or hardware. Useful in itself, I am curious to see how the routing between Logic and Mixbus went for the above poster as I don't think there is any reason it shouldn't work.
Not only this, but on actual Jack compatible programs you can sync up transport, so what I commonly am using this for, and what I did testing with, was to sync up Mixbus to a different program called Jadeo, to do SFX design for animation. Jadeo provided me with an ability to play back a video in sync with Mixbus, it would act like a VTR sync'd to Mixbus. Very useful. There are a few other Jack programs out there though things I use on a regular basis. A drum machine program called Hydrogen for instance that should be able to sync to mixbus(Haven't tested this one, just not something I use) and with audio routed into Ardour be recorded exactly in sync. Blender I know has a plugin to do this as well that some people have started using, and I believe the next version will have it built in.
The final thing I will mention is that you install JackOSX, and Mixbus takes care of launching it and controlling it for you. You don't really have to run another program at all if you don't wish to as Mixbus will take care of it for you. When you select your project audio settings (Sample Rate, Buffers, etc.) you are setting up Jack within Mixbus.
I hope that clears it up a little.
Is there a way to increase the size of the faders and knobs on the screen? I have a 24" screen and the faders are less than an inch long.
Sadly at this time I don't think so. But I would image if you mention it to Ben they might consider doing that for future versions. Right now if you increase the size of the mixer the plugin list grows to allow you to see more plugins if you are using them.
I think the test here is very personal!
Personally I tend to agree myself with everything in your post.
Do the plugins work on any other AU host? (I guess they don't)
Hmm I think I caught up, time to go get ready for work. Have fun.