I want Digi003 !!!

[junkie666]

I want Digi003 !!! running 64 audio tracks!
under $1500.

When?

[pixelhead]

when monkeys fly out of my butt! I also want this set up. Till then I will continue with Logic.

[Vaphoron]

I doubt 64 tracks is going to happen so try to be happy if they up it to 40 or 48.

[Albert]

48 would be good, along with an interface that does at least 24 I/O.

[JonCraig]

track counts might improve... maybe 48, but never 64. i seriously doubt that you'll see more i/o in LE-land than what we already have. digi wants to keep a well-defined line between HD & LE.

--jon

[nukmusic]

LMAO Long Live Digi-001

[DrDeltaM]

Seeing the "giant" improvement the MBox 2 gives over the MBox 1, I wouldn't expect too much from a 003...

[ProFool]

I would be mostly happy when the digi 002 had 2 more optical in and outs so i can hook up 2 more 8 channel converters on top of the 8 in it and the 8 channel converter hooked up to it. 32 channels in and out would be awesome

[The Spark]

Originally Posted by ProFool

I would be mostly happy when the digi 002 had 2 more optical in and outs so i can hook up 2 more 8 channel converters on top of the 8 in it and the 8 channel converter hooked up to it. 32 channels in and out would be awesome

But wouldnt this be quite a drain on the firewire bus? Im guessing it couldnt handle that much data throughput.

Bring back the PCI card...

[DrDeltaM]

Originally Posted by The Spark

But wouldnt this be quite a drain on the firewire bus? Im guessing it couldnt handle that much data throughput.

Bring back the PCI card...

Actually, this isn't a problem. Firewire400 and surely 800 has bandwidth enough for that

[JonCraig]

Originally Posted by DrDeltaM

Firewire400 and surely 800 has bandwidth enough for that

true. and you'll never see digi go back to pci for LE users. they dont want to lose the lapytop/macmini/imac marketshare.

--jon

[JonCraig]

it's for pc only... and jules will soon delete your post, methinks. cracked software is the devil.

--jon

[pixelhead]

OK! Take this for what its worth. I heard from a friend that attended a Digidesign Sales Meeting this weekend that they are going to be announcing a 64 track TDM version in the $3,000 price range with 8 inputs. Also a an 8 input 1/2 rack for LE in the $1500 range. You are able to hook 2 of the 1/2 racks together for 16 ins. I dont know if he is right but I will jump on a 64 track TDM system for 3k. I guess Monkeys may fly out of my butt yet.

[pixelhead]

Oh and Also, They plan on dropping Mac support in '07 to Focus on their new PC systems. I;m not sure I believe this one. Plus with the new macs using Intel it should be a bit easier for them to port over if they progam the new version in xcode.

[JonCraig]

i heard a rumor that digi will, in 2008, utilize a proprietary system. it will be a standalone box, probably with 24 I/O. here's the kicker... the new box will use it's own storage system--no more hard drives! it will be a linear arrangement of magnetic particles, and the music will be stored on this medium. i heard it's supposed to be called the digi A-827.

--jon

[ProFool]

Originally Posted by The Spark

Bring back the PCI card...

For LE im not sure about that, I used 5 years the 001 and never been happy with the PCI card, it was a real battle to do a session without errors. At first i tought it had to do with the PC's, so I build 3 dedicated systems for it over the years and all had the same bugs. Since I moved to the 002r my latest system runs perfect.

pixelhead Also a an 8 input 1/2 rack for LE in the $1500 range. You are able to hook 2 of the 1/2 racks together for 16 ins. I dont know if he is right but I will jump on a 64 track TDM system for 3k. I guess Monkeys may fly out of my butt yet.

Cool, for LE does this means 24 in out toghether with the 002? The Tdm might be cool to, even i have my doubt that it will need extra hardware to run like HD. 3000$ for the soft and card will be the way they go i guess and maybe another 2k for the harware I/O. I Could be wrong though :-)

[Bob Olhsson]

i can't imagine them dropping Mac support when they just announced adding it to their high-end Avid line!

As for Intel, the deep dark secret is that the power PC was exactly that and there's also risc under the hood of the Pentium. PCs and Macs haven't had serious hardware incompatibilities since Motorola 68040 days.

[TheTruffleKing]

...so now I'm learning Cubase SX3. Very cool so far...I especially love the automatic delay compensation for plugins!

[max cooper]

These threads are usually entertaining in retrospect. There'll be some rumour-mongering and wishing-out-loud, then a dissapointing Mattel-type box will be released to much fanfare (with all freq's hyped, no less.)

Oh, man you haven't seen it yet?

[autodidactic]

Who here would like to see LE have 48 tracks, full beat detective and PDC, bundled with a 1U rack featuring firewire 800, 24I/O ADAT, WC and midi for $1500-$2000? I know I would.

Could Digi be so generous? Judging by the vast "improvement" the Mbox 2 has brought, maybe I shouldn't hold my breath.

Happy speculation everybody!

[nukmusic]

Who here would like to see LE have 48 tracks, full beat detective and PDC

ha ha ha Long Live Digi-001

[DC11]

I'd love to snag that TDM for 3k thing. That'd be awesome for me to work at home with the same capabillity as an HD rig.

[max cooper]

Maybe they'll toss out some M-Accel cards.

[Dog_Chao_Chao]

For me it was the other way around. With the pci on my 001 i never had a problem. Since i start using 002 and it´s firewire there has been nothing but trouble. First the cpu can´t handle so many tracks, plugs and auto. Second, i have latency were I never had (512, 1024). Third, when i start protools sometimes it doesn´t recognize the 002. I have to turn it off and on again.
I would also want 48 tracks and more input capability.

[ProFool]

Originally Posted by Dog_Chao_Chao

For me it was the other way around. With the pci on my 001 i never had a problem. Since i start using 002 and it´s firewire there has been nothing but trouble. First the cpu can´t handle so many tracks, plugs and auto. Second, i have latency were I never had (512, 1024). Third, when i start protools sometimes it doesn´t recognize the 002. I have to turn it off and on again.
I would also want 48 tracks and more input capability. I think there is a small soft that we shouldn´t speek of.

On the digi 001 I had latency starting at 256 but the trouble was it took ages to record at 128, it kept hanging when set in record mode after pressing the space bar. so I always needed 256 or 512 buffer size to record, most guitar players complained about that. O and I remember at 128 in playback it started sounding like a robot voice or extremely bad 8 bit mp3, im sure you how that sounds.

[Dog_Chao_Chao]

I guess there are as many diferent experiences as gear.

By the way, I have another problem that i didn´t have.I think it is DC offset but I´m not sure as i never had it. For example, when i record something, specially something that ends up with a big decay (guitars, synths, cymbals, etc.), when i play back the recorded track i can hear a click everytime that track ends. Even if there is no more audio wave there....i read somewhere that it is a dc offset prob. the thing is, why am i having it and how do i solve it with out having do use an as plugin.

[ProFool]

Originally Posted by Dog_Chao_Chao

I guess there are as many diferent experiences as gear.

By the way, I have another problem that i didn´t have.I think it is DC offset but I´m not sure as i never had it. For example, when i record something, specially something that ends up with a big decay (guitars, synths, cymbals, etc.), when i play back the recorded track i can hear a click everytime that track ends. Even if there is no more audio wave there....i read somewhere that it is a dc offset prob. the thing is, why am i having it and how do i solve it with out having do use an as plugin.

Are there any plug ins on the tracks your talking about? reverb or delay? could be a tail you here. First zoom in at large at the end of the tracks 1 by 1 in solo and see if it still happens and mute the tracks that sound normal. btw did you used punch ins or processed fade's already? could be a bad fade too. Or are you playing back at a large buffer size, like 1028? I hope this helps, good luck

[ProFool]

Originally Posted by Lou Judson

Oh, man you haven't seen it yet?

I stick with it, three opticals would be great and no need for four more shitty pre's

[cletus]

Originally Posted by pixelhead

Oh and Also, They plan on dropping Mac support in '07 to Focus on their new PC systems. I;m not sure I believe this one. Plus with the new macs using Intel it should be a bit easier for them to port over if they progam the new version in xcode.

I attended an AES meeting yesterday hosted at Studio D in Suasalito. I met and spoke with several people from Digidesign including Jim West who if remember correctly, manages the plug in development and new product deptartments. After having read this thread and many other related, I decided to ask some of the questions that seem to come up often.
The first thing I asked was wether or not they plan on withdrawing support for the mac in the near future. All four of them busted out laughing as all of them used mac at work and at home. They explained that it would never happen because a significant percentage of their users are on mac os and that it would not make sense to cut out a large part of their user base. The only thing they mentioned aside from that was how its taken more work to keep up with the updates and work out different bugs in osx.
The next thing I asked Jim West if there were any plans to make an 003. He eluded to the fact that there might be some R&D going on specifically on a new updated version of the 002. He explained that they are always working on new products, working out bugs, and trying to stay on top of the demand for new products. He was really interested in hearing what it was that I thought should be in an 003. I proceeded to explain to him what I felt the majority of people would like to see happen:
More inputs (I told him 16 plus 8 via lightpipe)
Higher track count in LE
Be able to use more than one interface at the same time.
Better converters (we all could agree on this one)
Stable clock
Metering on interface
Ability to use spdif and light pipe at the same time at 96 or above
A better look (how un sexy is that 002r?)
Thats about all I can remember (had a couple of glasses of wine while discussing all this) but at the time was all I could think to suggest. By the way it did take some restraint not to go off a little bit about all the BS digi seems heap out. I didn't want to shoot the messenger so to speak and if it made a difference that they were all pretty cool people. Anyway, hope some of you feel a little more at ease about the whole mac thing (I know I do. Just bought a dual 2.3) and maybe looking forward to the possibilty of that elusive 003!!!