Logic Express vs. Reaper for new iMac
Old 21st September 2009
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Logic Express vs. Reaper for new iMac

I have an iMac that's almost 10 years old. My wife is a total Mac person. I am tentatively planning on buying a new iMac before the end of the year. For the last 13 years, I have been used to recording with hard disc recorders (first a Roland VS-880 & now a Korg D3200). I want to be able to MIDI sync to my old hardware devices to a future new iMac. I have heard good things about Reaper, but it's only a Beta version for a Mac. I don't have much patience for computer problems. Perhaps I'm better off buying Logic Express for $200 in the future? I guess I could try Reaper for a month & see if it works for me. But I hate to invest tons of time if it's unlikely to work right. I want to use EZDrummer in the near future. What do you guys think?
Old 21st September 2009
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With all respect to Logic and all, I do think that Reaper might work better in your case CPU-wise seeing that your computer is pretty old...
Old 21st September 2009
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I agree. But if you are buying a new iMac then Logic would be a great place to start.

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Old 21st September 2009
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Might just be me, but after playing with Reaper on my MacBook on several occasions, I never could get my MIDI controller working.

Once you get the new machine, you can download and install Reaper for free to see if it will meet your needs. If it doesn't, Logic is great.

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Old 21st September 2009
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Do your self a BIG favor and get LOGIC for your Mac.

I have REAPER on my Mac here and its have baked and has LOT of midi issues.
I took it off my desktop as its that unusable right now

Logic is WAY better in this area. You can try it. After not being able to adjust the midi volume to my hardware synths with the mixer and sloppy midi timing, Id had enough.
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The Mac version of Reaper is pretty rough- it reminds me of those Cubase free things that come with cheap USB interfaces. It's hard for me to fathom what makes folks so excited about Reaper, I have to constantly remind myself that we aren't talking about the same software.

Try Logic Express. If you end up liking it, the upgrade to the full Studio includes the price of what you've already paid for Express. Enjoy your new Mac, L
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The Mac version of Reaper is pretty rough- it reminds me of those Cubase free things that come with cheap USB interfaces. It's hard for me to fathom what makes folks so excited about Reaper, I have to constantly remind myself that we aren't talking about the same software.
, L
Reaper flys on a PC. Mac, not so much.
Old 21st September 2009
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Thank you very much for all of your responses! I appreciate it! I think I am pretty sold on the idea of buying Logic Express at this point.
Old 3rd October 2009
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I am using Reaper on a Mac in a pro-studio as my main DAW and I am quite happy with it.
Some aspects still need to evolve but it sounds really good and once you've tried your hand at it, I'd be surprised if you would not like it.
Possibilities are just incredible - Logic Express will be more limited but it can be an advantage if you are looking for a simple straight-ahead solution.
Old 4th October 2009
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Logic Express is smooth on the Mac and is in no way "limited". Reaper has a different workflow and for the Mac is not quite as mature for lack of a better term as Logic is. If you have not worked with a computer based system/software there will be a learning curve with Logic and will require a bit of patience with regard to finding endless menus, using keyboard shortcuts, mastering some of the editing capabilities etc. but, there are plenty of visual tutorials out there for Logic that can get you up and running quickly if you are a visual learner. More than anything, have fun with it! You will be rewarded by learning this app. As a staunch Pro Tools user for almost 10 years I'm very inspired by Apple's Logic Express/Pro. By the way you can get a copy of Logic Express 8 for $90-$100 street and it's solid.
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I am using Reaper on a Mac in a pro-studio as my main DAW and I am quite happy with it.
Some aspects still need to evolve but it sounds really good and once you've tried your hand at it, I'd be surprised if you would not like it.
Possibilities are just incredible - Logic Express will be more limited but it can be an advantage if you are looking for a simple straight-ahead solution.
I think NOT being able to send a midi volume change with the FADER in the MIXER to an external synth in REAPER is LAME. IF it were the SAME on Mac as PC it would rock, for now, it simply does not.
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Reaper on Windows PC negates Apple Computers.

***(Before you flame on me, it's a joke, though I do love Reaper, and was previously a Mac/Logic lover.)***
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I am using Reaper on a Mac in a pro-studio as my main DAW and I am quite happy with it.
Some aspects still need to evolve but it sounds really good and once you've tried your hand at it, I'd be surprised if you would not like it.
Possibilities are just incredible - Logic Express will be more limited but it can be an advantage if you are looking for a simple straight-ahead solution.
noize organizer,
Thank you for responding! Have you synced to external MIDI hardware with your Mac & Reaper combination?
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Logic Express is smooth on the Mac and is in no way "limited". Reaper has a different workflow and for the Mac is not quite as mature for lack of a better term as Logic is. If you have not worked with a computer based system/software there will be a learning curve with Logic and will require a bit of patience with regard to finding endless menus, using keyboard shortcuts, mastering some of the editing capabilities etc. but, there are plenty of visual tutorials out there for Logic that can get you up and running quickly if you are a visual learner. More than anything, have fun with it! You will be rewarded by learning this app. As a staunch Pro Tools user for almost 10 years I'm very inspired by Apple's Logic Express/Pro. By the way you can get a copy of Logic Express 8 for $90-$100 street and it's solid.
Infrablu,
Thanks for the information! I guess I will have to research where I can get Logic Express 8 for $100 or less (or let me know).
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shanabit,
Thank you for your reply!
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shanabit,
Thank you for your reply!
"Have you synced to external MIDI hardware with your Mac & Reaper combination?"

What do you want to know?
Old 4th October 2009
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"Have you synced to external MIDI hardware with your Mac & Reaper combination?"

What do you want to know?
I have heard some people have had MIDI problems with the Mac & Reaper combination. So, I was wondering if anyone has MIDI synced a Mac/Reaper combo to an external MIDI hardware device like a hard disc recorder, or hardware sequencer, or other hardware MIDI device (like an AdrenaLinn). I heard an iMac & Logic Express combo can do this OK.
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Old 8th October 2009
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Infrablu & others,
Thank you for the ebay info! Not sure how risky it is to buy used software. I will definitely need an audio/MIDI interface in the future. It seems like a $130 Tascam US-122L would do the job (I think). It comes with Cubase LE 4 recording software, which is hopefully enough to get me going. Comments anyone?
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