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Old 5th September 2005, 09:25 PM   #1
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Question pitch shift modulation effect

Hi all,

I'm looking for an effect to simulate the inaccuracy of older converters from EMT-, Lexicon-, or Quantecreverbs. The older quarzclocks don't hold the samplingrate so well... for example a 48K samplingrate may vary betwin 46K and say 49k in a casual modulation. This cause a slight "chorus" effect that an Altiverb for instance cannot simulate. Is there a way with some plugins or technics to create such an effect?

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Old 5th September 2005, 09:31 PM   #2
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my first idea would be to try pitch modulation driven by an free running lfo within an filterset - maybe even trying to offset various parts of the track in milliseconds in relation to the dry track, too.
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Thanks WEAPON_X for your quick response, I should have added that I'm a real plugin fool... actually I'm more an analog guy (but I'm still learning) could you tell me which plugins you would use therefor?

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i would that if applicable at all in the analog domain , too .
however, on which platform are you working ? īcubase sx ?
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cubase meets logic

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as far as i know, logic has some very good filters - go look for one that has an adsr filter envelope and an pitch setting otion for the filter which can be triggerted from an lfo. route the lfo (sinus - swelling up and down) either on the filter pitch or the filters frequency, or even both.
some filters with lfos have something calles modulation and modulation matrix - set up an routing where the lfo modulates slighly but hearable.

hope that helps at least anything...

(if you have a hardware synth/filter) try this in the analog world, i bet it is much more efficient, easier, and sounds better).


and of course, i forgot - why not a simple pitch shifting program ?
waves modulator and the like seem to be handy for that.
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...hope that helps at least anything...
...yes it helps, cause now I know there is no special plugin out there, so I'll try a combination with the onboard plugs and will see how it works.

thanks again WEAPON_X


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i found a plug in - :)

the waldorf d-pole filter has an option where you can set the frequency and either modulate that with an lfo or use automation with hyperdraw in logic.
however, it works (in cubase and nuendo).
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as far as i know, logic has some very good filters - go look for one that has an adsr filter envelope and an pitch setting otion for the filter which can be triggerted from an lfo. route the lfo (sinus - swelling up and down) either on the filter pitch or the filters frequency, or even both.
some filters with lfos have something calles modulation and modulation matrix - set up an routing where the lfo modulates slighly but hearable.
Autofilter (One of Logic's built in plugins) does this pretty well.
Have a look here
I'm mostly on Logic TDM but I use autofilter a hell of a lot, and it automates well in Logic.

Fabfilters Volcano should do this also, for Non Logic ppl.

My main filter these days is from Sound Toys Filter Freak - but this is TDM only.
They are 48db per octave and just sound sick.

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any delay with modulateable delay times should do the trick for you. The best-sounding I've found is the PSP-42 (a knockoff the of the Lexicon PCM-42by PSP software).
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WOW... thank you so much guys, that's a big help for me


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