New i7 Daw build. Does this look ok?
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14th June 2009
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New i7 Daw build. Does this look ok?

Getting a bit tired of our old p4 in the studio so we are ordering a new computer next week.

We are using Cubase 5 and 2X Echo Audiofire12 soundcards (12ch firewire)

Note: this is a studio computer ONLY. No gaming, office, etc. Not even lan.


this is what we think would be a good computer, what do you think about it?

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1. Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD4

S1366, X58, 6xDDR3, 3xPCI-E, 2xGLAN

Seems to be a stable motherboard. Has TI-firewire chipset onboard. Then i dont need my PCI card with firewire, right?

2. Processor
INTEL CORE I7 920

2.66GHZ 8MB S-1366


3. Memory
OCZ DDR3 GOLD XTC 6GB
PC3-12800 (3X2GB)

Read really good reviews of these memories.


4. Harddrive
2 x SAMSUNG SPINPOINT F1 1TB SATA/300 7200RPM 32MB

One for system and samples and one for projects and audio tracks. Good?

5. Graphics card
ATI HD4350 512MB
PCI-E (Asus) DVI/HDMI Heatsink passive, no fans.

Cheap, simple and quiet.


6. CPU-FAN
NOCTUA NH-U12P

I´ve read really good reviews and quiet.


7. DVD-Burner

SAMSUNG DVD±R/RW/RAM DL 22X SATA BULK SVART

cheap

7. Chassi and power supply
ANTEC MIDTOWER SONATA III 500 ATX SVART 500W

looks ok, quiet and 500w should be fine, since its not a gaming computer.


Its doesnt have to be completely quiet, since we´re not recording in the control room.
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so, what do you think?

would you change anything? What would you change and Why?

please let me know, all input are really apriciated!

Thanks
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if noise is not an issue then go for the Sonata...

i just did a build for someone and the standard psu is loud !!
also the antec tri-fans are loud !!

best ram mentioned here on GS is the corsair Dominator
but if you don't overclock not really an issue

the rest of the system is perfect
an A+ for research


grtz,



wim
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thanks. The antec p180 is almost the same case, right? They have a deal on that at the store.

Will go for corsairand change the fans. Thanx.
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i was to fast and missed that the computer was in isolation ... (so edited my post)
but it really makes a big difference... (corsair psu and all nexus fans on rubber feet)

grtz,

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over here the difference in price is ~20$ so ill stick with the motherboard. Its always good to be able to upgrade the memory and with 6 slots ill be able to use the three channels of ram better.

the computer is in the control room where we mix. When you said the sonata was loud, did you mean too loud for recording or too loud to be sitting next to it in the control room?
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Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD4
INTEL CORE I7 920
OCZ DDR3 6GB
NOCTUA NH-U12P
SAMSUNG DVD±R/RW/RAM DL 22X SATA BULK SVART
I hope that's good, because that's what I have/have coming!
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ah, cool. Are you planning to overclock it?
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You bet! As high as I can get while still being stable and quiet.

My Q6600 is overclocked right now from 2.4 to 3, but I'm hoping to get closer to 4 than 3 with the i7...
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e.

Id like to overclock it myself but not as extreme as you. ~3.4 something. Would that be safe and stable you think?

What would the real benefit be? More vst/vst-i?
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What would the real benefit be? More vst/vst-i?
That, and it just seems a bit quicker... programs load faster and stuff...
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over here the difference in price is ~20$ so ill stick with the motherboard. Its always good to be able to upgrade the memory and with 6 slots ill be able to use the three channels of ram better.

the computer is in the control room where we mix. When you said the sonata was loud, did you mean too loud for recording or too loud to be sitting next to it in the control room?
i think the sonata with the stock 500W psu and the tri-cool fans is too loud for controlroom purposes.
if you just swap all the tricool fans for more silent ones (mounted on rubbers)
it should be ok.
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I built my new setup with the same cpu, the asus p6t, 4 gig of ocz ram, the antec sonata 3, a pci firewire card (ti chip), a blu ray burner (from LG I beleive), a random fanless vid card, the asus I7 compatible cpu fan called triton something.

the sonota is far from being as quiet as advertised, the built quality is good to, I plan on changing the fans, the triton fan is kinda noisy too... I'm a bit disapointed about the noise, my P4 dell was more quiet new, now both are equally noisy.

I'm very happy with the cpu/ram/mobo to, I need 300 reaverb with the "bad church" preset in reaper + hit play to hit 100% on the cpu.
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over here the difference in price is ~20$ so ill stick with the motherboard. Its always good to be able to upgrade the memory and with 6 slots ill be able to use the three channels of ram better.

the computer is in the control room where we mix. When you said the sonata was loud, did you mean too loud for recording or too loud to be sitting next to it in the control room?
For $20 it's worth the upgrade. Not sure why Gigabyte would put 4 memory slots on a board with a chipset optimized for triple channel RAM - but with 3 x 2GB sticks, I figure I'll be OK for a while
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e.

Id like to overclock it myself but not as extreme as you. ~3.4 something. Would that be safe and stable you think?

What would the real benefit be? More vst/vst-i?
I have my 920 O/ced to 3.3 on a MSI mobo without problems. More vsts!
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what OS would you use to this setup?

i7
Cubase 5
Echo audiofire 12 x2

Ofcourse i want it to be stable, but i still want o use its full potential.

Would you go for XP32 or xp 64? Maybe Vista 32 r vista 64!?

Thanks!
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i think i read on this forum :
vista 64 with 32bit audio applications
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I'm going for Leopard... I like to have a partition for my DAW, an extra copy of my DAW for experimenting with, and a partition for everyday use - iTunes, internet, iCal, etc...

On my experimental DAW I'll install Snow Leopard when it comes out...
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I'm going for Leopard... I like to have a partition for my DAW, an extra copy of my DAW for experimenting with, and a partition for everyday use - iTunes, internet, iCal, etc...

On my experimental DAW I'll install Snow Leopard when it comes out...
hey Justin,

are you gonna install mac on the i7 ?

i'd also like one partition that runs mac

tell us how you do it and how it all works

thx
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Can't say anything here about it or they'll lock the thread... email me on Thursday or Friday though.
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i think i read on this forum :
vista 64 with 32bit audio applications
Do you have a link for that? I couldn't find it using search, and I've love to read it - contemplating Vista 64 vs. 32 on my new i7 build as well.

Thanks!
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"Quote:
Originally Posted by Intergroove
Hey guys i am bulding a new daw with an Intel Core i7 processor. Is it better to go with Vista 32, Vista 64 or XP64bit. Which one is the most stable. "

"Answer:
Vista 64 with 32 bit installs of your audio software

Scott"



so it's not a whole thread just the answer

grtz,

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hmm, i dont really like vista but many people seems to recommend it.

What version of Vista64 is recommended?

business, home,ultimate, etc?

IF you take out money of the equation, whats the best version for a daw?
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Why would anyone consider Vista when Win7 is coming out in a few months?
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vista 64 business or ultimate .
you can upgrade to W7 once it's stable
that's in about a year or so !

so for i7 users who want to use their 6GB -> Vista 64 for now
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You can download an evaluation copy of Windows 7 from Microsoft's site that runs pretty damn stable and will be working until June of next year.
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Why would anyone consider Vista when Win7 is coming out in a few months?
because Win 7 is the vista core. its the closest to it
if you need to build now and cant wait then vista is the wiser way to go

so far in our tests it looks like you may be able to do an upgrade install and get away with it.

please note people i am NOT yet officially saying this.... yet.

i never recommend an upgrade install always clean but this time around it may be ok.... we are still waiting for the actual release before saying this might be ok.

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i think ill might try windows 7 then. The only thing that concerns me is that its not updateable. In june next year ill have do a total reinstallation.


Im getting the computer this weekend.

Will install latest drivers and do some testing.

what test do you do when putting together a computer?

Will do memtest and DPC latency checker.

Any other ideas?
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ive just installed win7 on the computer and everything was found in the device manager.

Started out with running DPC latency checker, and ive got ~70-100µs with some peaks at 150.

Is that normal? Seems a bit high i think..

I ended up with everything above, but with corsair dominator memory and antec p182 case.
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