Logic Upgrade coming in June

[artyfuffull]

surely not..

Pro Apps and MacBooks to see update at WWDC | 9 to 5 Mac

why so soon.

[CuzCutz]

OK! I'll start holding my breath in... 3... 2.... 1...... NOW!

[Nu-tra]

I hope soon!

Apple had sent me an email to make suggestions on new Logic features. That must have been a year ago. I went to a lot of forums and copy and pasted user requests since I am not as deep of a user as I would like to be. I hope they used some of my suggestions.

[The MPCist]

Great! Hopefully, it will smooth out some of the bugs. Then the 3rd party plugins might go haywire and need updates and here we go thru the cycle again.....

[sonicdefault]

They also use the word "big" which is good to hear. I really hope this is true.




-SD

[timtoonz]

wake me when it's ready.

[Phaidon]

Originally Posted by timtoonz

wake me when it's ready.

+1!!!

[imusic]

well, WWDC (June) is for 3rd party developers - do you think Apple is showing them their own competition, ... I don't think so, ... (my guess) ...

best, imusic

[hmurchison]

Originally Posted by imusic

well, WWDC (June) is for 3rd party developers - do you think Apple is showing them their own competition, ... I don't think so, ... (my guess) ...

best, imusic

If WWDC was a showcase for new Apple Pro apps then most likey they'd demo features that they want all 3rd parties to use.

Snow Leopard is about re-architecting Leopard from the kernel up. They're going to want to show developers a working product that has

64-bit support
Support for OpenCL
Great multitasking with Grand Centra
and efficient use of Quicktime X.

I can't think of a better set of app to do this on than Final Cut Studio and Logic Studio.

[Veej007]

9to5 is, I believe, currently the most reliable site out of all the Apple rumor geeks. This is worth paying attention to.

[C Heat]

Good.

Because if it's stable I'm jumping ship from PT to Logic for composing.

From Notator to Pro Tools back to Logic. The circle of DAW

[TinderArts]

I'd love to see a multi level arrange window as Creator/Notator used to have for MIDI. It made arranging very easy. Simple ghost tracks like the old C-Lab stuff would be a welcome move to.

I remember writing much more quickly on Notator than with any product afterwards.

[C Heat]

Originally Posted by TinderArts

I remember writing much more quickly on Notator than with any product afterwards.

Me too!

[nativeaudio]

Originally Posted by TinderArts

I'd love to see a multi level arrange window as Creator/Notator used to have for MIDI. It made arranging very easy.

If you use folders and use the event list to show your folders instead of regions, you already have - in my opinion - a more flexible (and just as simple) version of this feature than Notator had...

Simple ghost tracks like the old C-Lab stuff would be a welcome move to.

Aliases?

I've also gone from Notator to TDM - with Logic software - and back to only Logic again, and I guess the only things I miss from Notator are the horizontal keyboard in the piano roll and the bars that showed event lengths in the event (etc) list. Oh, and you could drag notes from one track to another in the score editor then.

Everything else is much, much better in Logic.

[C Heat]

Originally Posted by nativeaudio

I've also gone from Notator to TDM - with Logic software - and back to only Logic again

TDM as in Pro Tools?

Why did you go back to Logic? For composition workflow reasons?

[Nowak]

Wow that screen shot of Notator brought back a flood of memories, thanks.

Stef

[laserheart]

And I just got Logic Studio for my birthday! :(

Now, I'll have to pay more to get the new version... :crying:

Id've rather waited a couple months to save a couple/few hundred bucks...

Hopefully the upgrades won't be too expensive...

[nativeaudio]

Originally Posted by C Heat

TDM as in Pro Tools?

Why did you go back to Logic? For composition workflow reasons?

I didn't go back to Logic, I always used Logic (after Notator), but I had various PT (TDM) system installed on my Macs for some years to get lower latency and more DSP power.

I can't compare composition workflow differences between PT and Logic, because I haven't used PT. I have mainly done mixing and movie/TV work lately, and since the tracks I've mixed either are played well or already (drum) edited, Logic's lack of Elastic Pitch and Time hasn't affected me much. IMO the myth that Logic isn't good for mixing is only a... myth.

I've used Logic since it came out, and since it could do a lot of stuff with Digi's TDM hardware that PT couldn't, and haven't seen any reason to change to another app.

Logic 8 is also easier to use than all other versions (after some days of getting used to the changes). There are some exceptions of course, but I can live with those for now. I'm also too lazy to consider a new DAW just because it has some features the one I use currently don't have. I simply trust that now when Logic is over the various transitions (Intel compatibility, the OSX transition, the move towards a more Apple like UI and look), they'll start adding more features again.

Someone asked the other day if Apple has a patent on the shade of grey that makes it feel like you are trapped in a submarine, and I agree with everybody who says that Logic's shade of gray is "too gray" (too 'cold' for my taste), but that wouldn't make me consider PT, and Live looks way to two dimensional for my eyes...and probably lacks many of Logic's features anyway.

If I ever should start to use two apps instead of one, I'd still probably check out both PT and Live before I made a decision, but I've heard that DAWs sometimes are being updated, new features are being added and all that, so I'll stick to Logic...:-D

I'll just keep sending Apple feedback suggestions for allowing that whatever we want to do in Logic should be possible to do in fewer steps, and in an as un-obscure ways as possible.

If I should point at only one weak point in Logic, it would be that it seems that the coders and developers sometimes seem to find solutions that seem simple and straightforward to them, but which sometimes deserve some serious UI simplification. Of course coders understand the features they have implemented, but I think there's no other way of making software user friendly than to spend a lot of time with testers before new stuff is released. Sometimes we simply know more about sensible ways do do things than they do, due to the nature of things: we've spent years on working in our DAWs while they have been planning and coding.

All this got a lot better with Logic 8, so if Logic 9 or whatever the next update will be called doesn't introduce cumbersome feature implementations that need to be simplified in Logic 10, I'm a happy guy!

[Phaidon]

Originally Posted by Nowak

Wow that screen shot of Notator brought back a flood of memories, thanks.

Stef

Indeed!

[C Heat]

Thanks for the detailed reply nativeaudio.

[Nicholas Varley]

Originally Posted by nativeaudio

Sniff………takes me back…

[James Lehmann]

Originally Posted by Nowak

Wow that screen shot of Notator brought back a flood of memories, thanks.

Oh man - what a trip!

How many hours did I spend staring at that screen and the one with the Pattern sequence!

And the fun of saving all my stuff to... single-sided floppies!

[DeBasement]

Originally Posted by James Lehmann

Oh man - what a trip!

How many hours did I spend staring at that screen and the one with the Pattern sequence!

And the fun of saving all my stuff to... single-sided floppies!

We expected so little of that program... And it always delivered.

I like the simplicity of software with modest ambitions that performs with the rock solid immediacy of hardware.

Contrast that with today's "the sky's the limit" studio in a box which is great when it works, but the rest of your time you spend pulling out your hair, wishing you could incinerate the whole thing! How I desperately hope Logic 8.2 or 9 or whatever-the-heck they call it finally gets us back to the era of "Just Work Dammit!".