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Old 29th March 2009   #1
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Step Recording Methods for Drums

Hi GS,

I've been getting more and more into using software for audio design. I'm currently using Ableton and NI programs for sampling. I'm getting good things out of them, but I feel my process for organizing and applying samples on the fly is really slow. In fact, I feel like I really suck at it the way somebody hammers with a screwdriver sucks at it.

Are there any good rules of thumb for collecting drum samples to put together kits on the fly?

I'm putting down beats by hand, collecting beat loops and altering them, rolodexing through sounds, but it's all very time consuming. Not that I don't mind spending time, but I'm wondering if there's a stealthy way to put this stuff together that I'm missing so I can access the ideas in my head with swifter throughput.

Should I just find 8-10 drum types for each and then just work from that?

I feel a bit overwhelmed with options and not sure how to assimilate good decisions in a decent amount of time. I don't want to spend an hour every night putting together a kit for a beat that pops in my head and will be gone in ten minutes.

Does this make any sense? Any ideas?

I'd just use crappy drums for beats and then modify them, but then cool sounds pop in my head and I'm busy messing with drums for an hour.

The process happens so fast at times. Is there any piece of mind to help organize what I'm trying to do?

Any suggestions are uber-helpful.

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Don't sleep till you have got your idea out enough that you will recognise it tomorrow.

When you have got it out enough that you know you will recognise its true intention- go back to bed.

If you have a girlfriend- get rid of here and get a female friend. Whole bunch of music hours freed up right there. Sounds cheeky I know but its true.

Erm wish I could help you more specifically but I'm not very familiar with ableton.

Edit: In terms of organising your drum sounds, why not spend an evening creating/assembling your favourite "electro" "rock" "acoustic" kits and saving them as a patch file in whatever host you use? That way when you get an idea you can at least load up a patch straight away thats in the ball park and get it down.
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Don't sleep till you have got your idea out enough that you will recognise it tomorrow.

When you have got it out enough that you know you will recognise its true intention- go back to bed.

If you have a girlfriend- get rid of here and get a female friend. Whole bunch of music hours freed up right there. Sounds cheeky I know but its true.

Erm wish I could help you more specifically but I'm not very familiar with ableton.

Edit: In terms of organising your drum sounds, why not spend an evening creating/assembling your favourite "electro" "rock" "acoustic" kits and saving them as a patch file in whatever host you use? That way when you get an idea you can at least load up a patch straight away thats in the ball park and get it down.

That's kind of what I've been doing. It seems like the only sane way to go about playing virtual drums.

I recently took a downloaded loop and ran different NI drum sets over it.
It looks like there's a semi-standard pattern for which keys kick, snare, and others should be on for more fluid use kit-to-kit, like C1 etc.

It would be nice if Battery had an alt-Arrow function that would only shift through a given snare drum library that the user's put together. Alt-Arrowing through every single snare takes a long time, and if you're using a kit you already like that could take some time.

Of course, if all these samples are already put together in folders, one could just used Finder.

Anyway, yeah, that's seems like the best course of action thus far. Programming is programming and always requires libraries.
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