The CUBASE 5 thread.. pros and cons. stay on topic!

[ARIEL]

Pros , seems more stable for me from C4 to C5 , dumps the load in ram , was my issue with C4 - so i can open and close multiple songs and it C5 clears it out of ram . I really like the look and layout No crashes so far .
The Con - I can't export any songs ??? So i have to record back into C5 directly - when exporting one gets a disk overload error . But actually this prob has worked out for me as It has helped me in my mastering application . SO I really like C5 and the variaudio is a huge bonus for me and my workflow .

[d3man]

Originally Posted by norbury brook

been running 12/7 no crashes at all :D

marcus

Same here, especially with 5.0.1 fix

[JoeyRec]

You guys shouldnt be complaining about the move to 64 bit. Change is good!

With 32 bit you can only use like 4 gigs of RAM with an app supposedly including plug-ins. They say that even with huge amounts of ram your machine only uses that much?? You can set certain plugs like Logics sampler and some others to use other dedicated memory, but you are not using near the amount of resources that some of us have on machines.

note: I personally believe that having more ram does speed things up though, from personal experience..

Anyway the new Mac OS 10.6 Snow Leapard will be 64 bit Intel Only and is completely revamped to actually get the juice that you should be getting with 64 bit computers and multi core processors.

Its going to be lightning fast.. awesome, and the fact that this is 64 bit is def a huge plus.

Also Stienberg is probably working with Apple as we speak considering its known fact about the OS update. When snow leopard comes out Cuebase will probably be ready and updated to work with it as long as they get the Beta copies that come out.

Logic needs to Up to 64 bit BAD. My thoughts on that are I think shortly after 10.6 gets released I believe they will come out with a 64 bit Logic that is streamlined for the new OS and will contain the obvious things held out of the last version like "real" elastic audio.

[Scott Cairns]

Originally Posted by Phaidon

Personally speaking I would avoid using a brand new version of any DAW in a pro-session.It's a big no-no for me.

Originally Posted by George Necola

seems like they did a better job then in the past

I agree. Usually I wait a year or more before upgrading Cubase. In fact, I took so long to go from SX3 to 4 that I qualified for the version 5 grace period update.

I also agree that 5 seems to be a lot more stable out of the box than previous versions.

[shanabit]

Originally Posted by TanTan

I've just "upgraded" from Nuendo 3 to Cubase 5 on my windows PC.

This is the MOST unstable program I've ever worked with, it has some great features but the system is just not working ! everything is crashing all the time ! I've installed it 4 times already and nothing can help it.. I'm pretty sorry I've bought it.. had to stick with my old Nuendo or moving to Pro-Tools 8.

My thought is they have released an unfinished program, i had to do much explaining to the clients today and not charging them for about half a day. embarrassing.

1. Did you upgrade the syncrosoft drivers for the dongle FIRST?
2. After that, did you load the C5 and then update to the 5.01 fix?
3. Grab your Nuendo prefs and move them to the desktop BEFORE booting up C5
Delete the C5 prefs and restart the app, it should re-build the C5 prefs and ignore any of the Nuendo ones if its pulling them in.

Thats what Id do here

[babyface_finsta]

Originally Posted by lematrix

New Bug on Mac



i had severel times an empty bounce when i exported the mix. Than i had to do it again, and then it works.

Experienced the same on a PC/XP... The media bay makes no sense to me... Preset management and there location is confusing... it also seems that some of my softsynths will only either work as VSTi's or Instruments (not both)...

[58lespaul]

I'm a little confused about what Steinberg said about Cubase 5 being 64 bit and getting ready for Snow Leopard. Does this mean that Cubase 6 will be the one that is optimized for Snow Leopard or that Cubase 5 will be getting optimized for Snow Leopard in the future?

The more I read about Snow Leopard the more awesome it sounds and I think Steinberg would be really forward thinking to have a DAW that is optimized and ready for the new OS.

[redroom]

Originally Posted by 58lespaul

I'm a little confused about what Steinberg said about Cubase 5 being 64 bit and getting ready for Snow Leopard. Does this mean that Cubase 6 will be the one that is optimized for Snow Leopard or that Cubase 5 will be getting optimized for Snow Leopard in the future?

The more I read about Snow Leopard the more awesome it sounds and I think Steinberg would be really forward thinking to have a DAW that is optimized and ready for the new OS.

Cubase 5 is cocoa so it is a big step to making it ready for snow leopard

[George Necola]

Originally Posted by redroom

Cubase 5 is cocoa so it is a big step to making it ready for snow leopard

they have a new developer team at steinberg and working on it as far as my info is correct.

[Solar]

Hey fellas!

I need to know if anyone had this problem with C5. I opened a project i am working on and import 1 midi track into the project and this is what i get:



Went into Steinberg forum and man it's a freaking hassle to register with them.. put the key and wait to be approved etc... so that i s why i'm posting here to see if anyone would have any answer to this problem! After this problem appears, when i click on OK, C5 shuts down completely and thats it! So wondering just by importing 1 midi file into the project i'm having this problem? what could this be?

Thanx in advance!

[George Necola]

this happens normally if you have a thirdparty plugin that fails (plugin or vst-instrument).

is cubase able to "add" the midi-track or does it crash before "adding it on the left side of your sequencer-window".

cheers

[tenderboy]

Originally Posted by AjD

I'm hearing lots of good things about Cubase 5. The relative stability so far is most encouraging. Even so, I'll upgrade to it eventually - probably sometime after they release a maintenance fix - as they always do. I'm cautious that way.

One thing that's sticking in my craw though. Why can't I comp multitrack audio with it? (Easily?) Obviously it's a terrible pain when working with a mic'ed up drum kit, but it's a problem even with simple stuff. After all this time, I can't believe that a feature improvement in this area hasn't been implemented.

I'm sure everyone who uses Cubase/Nuendo knows the problem, but I'll offer an example anyway. Yesterday I was doing a simple acoustic guitar overdub. We did five takes - I had a close mic going, a shoulder mic, and a room stereo pair (thus, I recorded three tracks for each take - two mono tracks and one stereo track). After we finished the five different takes, the client and I sat down at the computer to make a comp. As I always do, I converted each of the three tracks to "parts" (for slicing/dicing/ease of comping - one of Steinberg's best features, IMHO), and put the three tracks in a folder. Then I double-clicked the folder track, and started slicing and dicing the perfect comp.

And there's the problem.... if I want to, say, use take 1 for the first chorus, and take 3 for the next verse, I have to make that identical change THREE TIMES (because I recorded three tracks). It's almost comical to watch. Click, repeat. Click, repeat. Click, repeat. Just about every single one of my clients asks why I have to keep repeating the same action over and over, every single time I have to do this. Even the clients who know next-to-nothing about computers notice the problem. It's almost embarrassing - they often ask, "Are you sure there isn't a workaround? There must be. Have you checked the manual?"

My standard answer to this question (I swear, it's asked by almost every client whenever we comp something) had been, "Believe it or not Mr. Client, there aren't any pro audio software programs that offer that feature! They all make you repeat your comping steps on every microphone." But recently, I heard that Pro Tools 8 added just this sort of functionality. So... it's becoming harder to explain why I went with Steinberg over Pro Tools when clients inevitably ask, "What about with Pro Tools?" - which really means, "If I was at that 'other' studio across town that uses Pro Tools, would it be three times faster (and thus, three times cheaper) just to do a simple guitar comp?".

I really hope Steinberg addresses this in the next upgrade. From where I'm sitting, it sticks out like a sore thumb in an otherwise excellent piece of software.

Aj

I also use "events into parts" and when comping several tracks just select the tracks you want to edit (with shift + left-click) and then double-click on one of the tracks (I think I mostly click on the upper track in the upper half of the track)

then a window opens with all the tracks and here you can edit multiple lanes by also shift-clicking and thereby selecting more than one lane


have C5.01 since yesterday and it seems smooth and stable!

groove agent one rules for letting me drag (sliced) events from the arrange-window onto one pad and automatically arranging them on the pads for instant playing of a drumloop

that is the feature i was witing for in N.I.Battery

[Solar]

Originally Posted by George Necola

this happens normally if you have a thirdparty plugin that fails (plugin or vst-instrument).

is cubase able to "add" the midi-track or does it crash before "adding it on the left side of your sequencer-window".

cheers

Hey George!

You're absolutely right, was exactly a project that someone worked and had a third part plugin that was not loading well and i didn't have it install and was causing this problem! The cool part is that while i was opening the project i could save whatever i want such as going on the inserts of each tracks and take out the missing plugin and than save it and than after clicking on OK on the Error window, booom, total shutdown.

But now project is working well. I think that Steiny should do a way that if there is a third part plugin, at least to show a msg but not make Cubendo crash. Just my 2 cents.

thank you for responding!

Cheers!

[George Necola]

Originally Posted by Solar

Hey George!

You're absolutely right, was exactly a project that someone worked and had a third part plugin that was not loading well and i didn't have it install and was causing this problem! The cool part is that while i was opening the project i could save whatever i want such as going on the inserts of each tracks and take out the missing plugin and than save it and than after clicking on OK on the Error window, booom, total shutdown.

But now project is working well. I think that Steiny should do a way that if there is a third part plugin, at least to show a msg but not make Cubendo crash. Just my 2 cents.

thank you for responding!

Cheers!

yeah, but in the older versions, you were not able to "safe or change something".. at least this is possible now. Samplitude is reacting the same way altough it's a bit more friendly you can choose to abort the process and restart, or directly restart

witch plugin? blind-tip: PSP vintagwarmer or 84 delay.

[Solar]

Originally Posted by George Necola

yeah, but in the older versions, you were not able to "safe or change something".. at least this is possible now. Samplitude is reacting the same way altough it's a bit more friendly you can choose to abort the process and restart, or directly restart

witch plugin? blind-tip: PSP vintagwarmer or 84 delay.

Same thing you can do with Sonar, i think can like do a CTRL + ALT and it disabled all loaded plugins in the project so u can get into the project and see whats the matter. Anyhow, at least it works now. And i think it was a some kind of Free plugins from nomadfactory that a friend of mine used and not compatible with C5.

By the way, C5 was not supposed to have a Iphone software? Where is it? Is it released yet?

Thanx again!

[58lespaul]

iPhone transport controls are gonna be ****ing sweet. Steinberg said that it wouldn't be released until Q2 2009... which means we can expect it Q3 2009, lol

[JrSupaProduca]

Im having problems running my cubase 5 with my digi002 it works and then when i switch the buffer size it crashes. when i went to add the busses it crashed. after i put a few pluggins on it it starts to make a static noise. am i doing something wrong? Please help

im running it on a mac pro quad core with 3 gigs of ram

[CSeye]

Newly installed Cubase 5 has been very stable on my early 2007 Mac Pro for the past 6 weeks.

A couple of crashes occurred within the first two days after installation for reasons that aren't clear to me. Probably some form of.... user error. No problems since then.

I really like it.

[mig27]

Have been using it for the last 3 months.
Not a single hick-up.

And I grew really fond of their "Variaudio" pitch correction system.
Using it all the time, also for creative tweaking.
Nice.


Michael

[TanTan]

Originally Posted by shanabit

1. Did you upgrade the syncrosoft drivers for the dongle FIRST?

yes

Originally Posted by shanabit

2. After that, did you load the C5 and then update to the 5.01 fix?

yes

Originally Posted by shanabit

3. Grab your Nuendo prefs and move them to the desktop BEFORE booting up C5
Delete the C5 prefs and restart the app, it should re-build the C5 prefs and ignore any of the Nuendo ones if its pulling them in.

Thats what Id do here

I've deleted all of the Nuendo folder in "program files" before installing C5

There were some problems with the Lynx cards so I've reinstalled the older drivers and it solved the problem.. but there are arrangements the C5 just don't like.. a client of mine has just been here with his C3 arrangements and it didn't open ! error messages is popping up all the time so he will need to export all the audio files in his studio and I'll have to open a new arrangement here. this is very strange, the support for older versions files is VERY poor. i also had another problem with another arrangement i had to mix yesterday where one of the lynx cards played in half tempo ! there were no clocking problems, I've checked it out about a 1000 times, it happens only in this arrangement. I'm so sorry I've "upgraded" to C5. my studio isn't functioning properly ever since. way to go Steinberg..

[Fredo]

Originally Posted by TanTan

I've deleted all of the Nuendo folder in "program files" before installing C5

No, that is not correct. Deleting folders in "Program Files" will only break things.
The preferences are to be found in the application data folder:
c:\Documents & Settings\[login user name]\Application Data\Steinberg\Nuendo


Removing preferences for Cubase, Nuendo :: Knowledge Base :: Steinberg Media Technologies GmbH


HTH
Fredo

[TanTan]

Originally Posted by Fredo

No, that is not correct. Deleting folders in "Program Files" will only break things.
The preferences are to be found in the application data folder:
c:\Documents & Settings\[login user name]\Application Data\Steinberg\Nuendo


Removing preferences for Cubase, Nuendo :: Knowledge Base :: Steinberg Media Technologies GmbH


HTH
Fredo

Thanks, I'll check it out, it's prety strange, maybe there is something i don't understand, after uninstalling Nuendo 3 there was nothing left from it except for the vstplugins folder and a notepad file..

[wakestyle]

pros: tighter overall imo. good price. Nice orchestral samples included.

cons: groove agent is severely lacking in features.
still no rewire stereo channels

[nishant]

When i score for a video and freeze EWQL orchestra (gold,legit,non-play) , i get an error - cubase has encountered a serious error and will be shut down.
This never happens with cubase 4 and on mac

I believe Its not a memory issuse - my pc is Q9550 with 8 gb Ddr3 ram and the interface is Ultralite MK3

Anyone else with a similar issue?or a fix to it?

[Fredo]

Originally Posted by nishant

I believe Its not a memory issuse - my pc is Q9550 with 8 gb Ddr3 ram and the interface is Ultralite MK3

Anyone else with a similar issue?or a fix to it?

If you are on Xp32, then you won't be able to access more than 2 Gb of RAM.
That's a limitation of the OS. There are many threads about this on the official forums.

Fredo

[nishant]

I'm using 64 bit windows

[Fredo]

Originally Posted by nishant

I'm using 64 bit windows

And the 64 bit version of Cubase?

Fredo

[nishant]

Yes ofcourse

[sammi-zhang]

I don't like Cubase 5,Only like Cubase SX v3.0
I am student of china,I like here and use Cubase SX

[muziksculp]

Hi,

This might be a bit OT.

I have a Mac Pro 8 core (OSX Leopard), and Cubase 5. I was interested in knowing if there are any advantages of running C5 on Vista-64 via Bootcamp vs OSX ? or is the overall performance of C5 pretty much equal on both OSX and Windows Vista-64 ?

Any Mac Pro users done any testing with C5 running on Vista-64/Bootcamp ? Some feedback on this would be helpful.

Thanks.