The CUBASE 5 thread.. pros and cons. stay on topic!

[58lespaul]

Any updated on the transport controls for the iPhone for Cubase 5? As an iPhone owner and Cubase 4 user, I think that it is a brilliant move by Steinberg.

[lematrix]

Originally Posted by Neon Heart

maybe an obvious question but did you check all the boxes for each track?

I happen to forget about the new export engine regularly and export silence.


Cubase 5 working fine here. 1 or 2 random crashes in a month.

Yes, I checked it


i keep everything the same, and at the 2nd time it works - strange

maybe 2nd Party Plugs ?

[LickHunter]

It is still buggy for me. It audio frequently drops out when I try to record.

[Lawrence]

There are issues with REVerence at low latencies. Other than that I've had a really good time with it.

Oh, yeah... there are some minor graphic glitches as someone mentioned. I've seen it on lanes at times where the graphics go goofy for a minute. And, if you use their companion products like Sequel, you might get bitten by what I think is a failure by Steinberg to keep the Syncrosoft versions up to date in the distributions.

I installed Sequel 2 after Cubase 5 and it caused a heck of a lot of problems with Cubase.

All in all... 2 desktop AMD's, a 2 core AMD laptop and a Wintel Mac on the Mac side are working pretty well for me with version 5.

[artbeat77]

Got Cubase 5 installed yesterday. I haven't done a whole lot with it - just recorded two cassettes worth of material onto a stereo track. Yippee. I had to do some volume automation for a quiet talker, but nothing fancy. It worked, of course, as anybody would expect.

It feels like a Steinberg product, which I find very intuitive. I did open up the reverb, and the presets sound good. I also opened up LoopMash and loaded in two loops. I can see it is going to be a lot of fun to play with. It's a little like Stylus (not in the UI) in that the grooves have several voices (i.e. drums, perc, guitar, bass) that can be turned on and off as desired. From what I heard, the sounds are great quality, and we can expect to hear them in tv commercials and episodes of CSI for years to come.

[ron2812]

This bug in VariAudio starts to piss me off.

I'm recording some vocals, bit by bit, use VariAudio on it. After 7-10 of this recorded clips with VariAudio on it, Cubase crashes to the desktop.

Tried it on various projects, ran some tests, always happens after a certain amount of clips i'm using VariAudio on.

Does this happen on your end too, guys?

[norbury brook]

if they're going into ram then probably when you hit your memory limit it will 'poof', have you checked your memory usage as you go along? this might give you an insight as to what's happening.


marcus

[ron2812]

I basically used an empty project for the tests.
Just recorded some material und used VariAudio on it.

I got 4GB Ram, so i think this should be enough for that test :-)

[norbury brook]

ron you've got 4 gigs yes but cubase can probably only use about 1.6 gig max before it freaks out and thats with the 3 gig switch so it wouldn't take a lot if vari audio was putting everything in ram for it to reach this.I'm not saying that's what the problem is,it was just a thought :-)

if you give me the steps I'll try and reproduce it


marcus

[artbeat77]

I edited a 3 1/2 minute vocal track using Vari-Audio tonight. I'm on a 3 Ghz (single processor), 2 GB RAM Windows XP SP3 computer. I didn't have any problems - no crashes. The audio analysis went very quick, and the changes sounded really good.

I don't know if it matters, but the project was very small. A songwriter's demo with two guitar tracks and vocal - all mono.

[carma]

Originally Posted by ron2812

This bug in VariAudio starts to piss me off.

I'm recording some vocals, bit by bit, use VariAudio on it. After 7-10 of this recorded clips with VariAudio on it, Cubase crashes to the desktop.

Tried it on various projects, ran some tests, always happens after a certain amount of clips i'm using VariAudio on.

Does this happen on your end too, guys?

Wouldnt call it a bug, at least i havent been able to reproduce it and my computer is by no means powerful, (XP dual 2.1ghz 4gb ram)

Ive edited at least 30 clips on projects with 30+ tracks

[ron2812]

Hmm...maybe there's a problem with my system then.

I used VariAudio in a very small writing-project. Just a piano Track and some recorded vocal clips.
Maybe its got a problem with some other plugin installed...

dunno...gonna try to reinstall my computer if this only happens on my system and you work fine with it.

Don't get me wrong. The feature is great, sounds good and is much easier to work than using Melodyne.

[Alex Specht]

Anyone running C5 with Vista Ultimate 64?

[intolerance]

Installed it today, Tranzport refused to work, opened Cubase 4 and tracked for a few hours. C5 won't open at all now, causes a system error, and then disables any version of Cubase to run.

Variaudio is amazing. Reverence is bloated and buggy with crazy glitchy sounds often, and that's too bad because I dig the features.

Verdict as of really tired right now = Buggy, buggy, buggy.

[shanabit]

Originally Posted by intolerance

Installed it today, Tranzport refused to work, opened Cubase 4 and tracked for a few hours. C5 won't open at all now, causes a system error, and then disables any version of Cubase to run.

Variaudio is amazing. Reverence is bloated and buggy with crazy glitchy sounds often, and that's too bad because I dig the features.

Verdict as of really tired right now = Buggy, buggy, buggy.

1. Your Tranzport has to be setup again in C5
2. your C5 probably pulled your prefs file from C4 which we know wont work, drag your prefs files to a new folder on the desktop, boot C5 and it will build a new set of prefs and you should be good.

[norbury brook]

Originally Posted by intolerance

Installed it today, Tranzport refused to work, opened Cubase 4 and tracked for a few hours. C5 won't open at all now, causes a system error, and then disables any version of Cubase to run.

Variaudio is amazing. Reverence is bloated and buggy with crazy glitchy sounds often, and that's too bad because I dig the features.

Verdict as of really tired right now = Buggy, buggy, buggy.

IF you're on a mac you'll need to have a fairly large buffer size to use reverence,don't try use it when tracking it's a mix reverb.


Been using C5 everyday now on two separate projects for 3 or 4 weeks,not had one crash.

Q6600/gigabyte P35/4 gigs ram/8800GT/UAD2/SSLDuende PCIe/Poco/XP sp3 with two MR816x's



Marcus

[intolerance]

Originally Posted by shanabit

1. Your Tranzport has to be setup again in C5
2. your C5 probably pulled your prefs file from C4 which we know wont work, drag your prefs files to a new folder on the desktop, boot C5 and it will build a new set of prefs and you should be good.

Thank you.

[intolerance]

Turned out to be a problem with Syncrosoft Control not running correctly. Uninstalled, re-installed, and all is well? Reverence is still seemingly bloated and buggy, surprisingly almost 3 times the resources needed Altiverb 6?! Win XP, Core2 Duo, 4GB ram, haven't installed it on my my Mac yet. It seems to be working fine after the Syncrosoft issue, put in about 9 hours of work today without problems, Tranzport and all. Sessions seemed to load quicker, not sure if anyone else has noticed this? I'm not complaining.

Fingers remained crossed.

[Fredo]

There is a performance problem with REVerence: plug-in not usable on MacIntel with buffer sizes below 512 (stuttering audio) .

This is fixed in the first maintenance update which will be released shortly.

Fredo

[semisound]

I have been using C5 for a few weeks now on my old Pentium D 3GHz w/ 4GB RAM and haven't noticed any differences in stability to that of C4. Except for in VariAudio, as others have reported. I'll cut Steinberg some slack here though - it's a major new and very complex feature that other vendors have built their entire careers on. (The pitch correction comes from Yamaha, but the "hommage to Melodyne" is Steinberg's own implementation). And it works reasonbly well as it is. I have used it in a handful of projects already and the issues I've had are a sluggish GUI and - once - a crash when I tried to export some processed audio as MIDI. The sluggishness of the GUI in the VariAudio tab tells you there are code optimizations to be made, but while such unresponsiveness doesn't instill confidence, I haven't seen more than one crash. (Maybe there have been a couple more that I have forgot about, but no more than to be expected in a major new feature in a point zero version).

The other major new feature for me is the new Export engine. Not only can we now export any number of tracks of any type in one fell swoop, it also doesn't take discernably longer than exporting a single track. This stands out in my world: When a long awaited feature finally arrives, you discover they have taken the time to implement it better than you ever could have imagined. Superb, Steinberg. My projects are now more portable than ever, I'm never more than a single export away from moving into another DAW - any DAW, any version. It's also great for us poor sods with old computers: A couple of mouseclicks and then I have the whole project rendered with stems, reclaiming RAM and CPU cycles.

The new VSTi:s are good and refreshingly nice on the eyes, although I haven't been using them much. (I have my own 3rd party stuff that I prefer). But as with REVerence, it's good for newcomers to have everything they need in the box. Cubase has been lagging behind the other major DAWS in recent years in terms of freebie plugins. C5 remedies some of that, (mainly with a decent reverb, a pitch correction plugin, a drum sampler and some loop mangling), although Logic remains best in class in this regard I guess.

All in all it's a great upgrade that I recommend all Cubase users. What will be interesting looking ahead is how well this version is going to work in a pure 64 bit environment, now that it's officially supported. 64 bits will become the standard sooner rather than later, and it will be interesting to see who takes the lead in terms of stability and performance, as well as in terms of porting the plugs that ship with the product. Who knows, maybe even the third party vendors finally wake up?

[Dr. Doof]

Everything with C5 has been excellent for weeks. Loop Mash never did work. I don't know if I can re-install C5. I might not need Loop Mash anyway but, It would be nice to have it.
I load it and it locks up and crashes.

PC Duo core 3 gigs ram. No other issues.

[George Necola]

just recorded a full band with Cubase 5.0.0, 21 drumtracks at the same time...

did some editing.. used some plugs.. used melodyne bridge..

no crash in 72 hours..

cheers

[disjunction]

I've written 2 tracks in the two weeks that i have have C5.
I upgraded from SX3. I find it fast and responsive compared to SX3
No Crashes as yet, but then again didn't have too many with SX3 either.

I'm primarily ITB, with occasional recording from a Clavia G2, a mic an d bass guitar.

I'm happy with the upgrade. Vari is a great tool.

Win XP SP3, Dell Pecision M4300 laptop, RME hammerfall (PCMCIA) multiface.

[shanabit]

Originally Posted by George Necola

just recorded a full band with Cubase 5.0.0, 21 drumtracks at the same time...

did some editing.. used some plugs.. used melodyne bridge..

no crash in 72 hours..

cheers

George, thats a huge kit!!!!

[George Necola]

Originally Posted by shanabit

George, thats a huge kit!!!!

hardcore-kit (2 toms, 1 snare, 1 kick), roommics, overheads, mono squash, 2 kick mics, triggers..

no it was not just a lot of messing around

[Mark Kaufman]

Thanks for making this most excellent and useful thread a sticky, George. Very helpful information to me and many others.

[Faderjockey]

You guys have me scared.

[jbird327]

Originally Posted by Alex Specht

Anyone running C5 with Vista Ultimate 64?

I put a new system together to run 64 Ultimate. 8 gig ram, duo 2.0, motu 896 and 828. All I loaded into the system was the Motu 64 drivers, Universal audio drivers and C5. So far, no luck. It won't play the demo song, the Motu freaks out and Cubase freezes. I'll start troubleshooting tomorrow.

[George Necola]

bug: I am trying to edit the tracks (i usually record all the songs into one project, one after another).

now if I am on the 3rd song (doesnt matter, but for explanation reasons) the first song starts to play again! just out of knowhere.. even if I move the third song back (to end of the project), the first song starts to play in the middle where this track was. (in my project it's 305 on the timeframe). so there are absolutely no tracks, but cubase 5 is starting to play another recorded song..

don't get it...

[George Necola]

Originally Posted by Mark Kaufman

Thanks for making this most excellent and useful thread a sticky, George. Very helpful information to me and many others.