Nord Lead, Virus A,B,C - they can be a "Virus" TI - almost TTotally IIntegrated

[analographi]

I think this is really worh knowing.

What makes the Virus Ttttotally superior over other hardware is definitly not the sound, but its Total Integration into the DAW environment.

I always wondered why no other companies, especially Clavia, realize, that this is the consequent next step in hardware synthesizers.

Years passed by and Clavia releases Nord Modular G2, Nord Wave and DAW users still end up in recalling their sounds manually in each project, keep on programming programm changes in order to have something like "total recall".

Korg, Alesis, Waldorf they all go on pretending there was no such thing as a DAW and release one hardware synth after the other, all totally ignoring the natural DAWist need of Total Recall and Integration.
All they feature is audio out and midi and in case there is something like USB it is used for simple transfer reasons, but not integration.

Well, fortunately there is rekonaudio. What they did is what Clavia, Waldorf, Korg etc. should have done long ago. They created a VST-Plugin which controlls and recalls your external hardware synth with your DAW Projects.
Sure, there is no audio being integrated, you still have to do this via your soundcard, but beside that this plugin turns your Nord Lead into a Nord lead TI... almost.

Rekonaudio so far released versions for Nord Lead 1/2/2x, Virus and Waldorf Pulse.

No, I'm not rekonaudio, and no, I don't get any money for them, but I am a Nord Lead AND Nord Modular G2 user and I hope that this company gets as much success as possible.
Why? Because I hope it puts some pressure on the incredibly ignorant people at clavia and other synthcompanies.

And I hope that rekon will maybe release a patch-recall-Vst-plugin for the Modular G2. Since Recalling my G2 sounds is driving me crazy... can you believe that Clavia creates a computer attached modular synth and does not integrate it with a DAW? I'm patching, tweaking on the DAW, but I have to create programm changes or write lists to recall my sounds?

I even heard that Clavia wasn't really supportive to rekonaudio, when being asked about specs of their synths...

My two cents. I hope some of you find the rekonaudio softwares useful.

reKon audio™ ::: Welcome

[musicjon]

Looks cool, but no Audio Units.

[zebastian21]

Originally Posted by musicjon

Looks cool, but no Audio Units.

and their latest update for the Virus VST was back in 2006tutt

[4damind]

I own both Virus XL (extended "C" rack) and NL2 and I have no needs for such a VST. The Nord Lead lives from his easy interface (also when mounted in the rack). Its a synth you _must_ touch Integrating of external hardware is a no-brainer with Cubase4, but for other hosts it makes more sense to have something like the TI.
The only thing I miss with the NL2, is an easier total recall. The workaround is to place a sysex bulk at the begin of the track (recorded from a midi-dump).

... The Virus is shipped with a OEM version of Sounddiver. The screenshots of the Rekon shows that the implementation is only poor (no graphical envelope editing etc.) compared to Sounddiver.

There is no demo available for the Virus and NL (I cannot found something on there site only for the Waldorf Pulse). No demo, no chance to give it a try (and of course no buy).

[analographi]

Originally Posted by 4damind

I own both Virus XL (extended "C" rack) and NL2 and I have no needs for such a VST. The Nord Lead lives from his easy interface (also when mounted in the rack). Its a synth you _must_ touch Integrating of external hardware is a no-brainer with Cubase4, but for other hosts it makes more sense to have something like the TI.
The only thing I miss with the NL2, is an easier total recall. The workaround is to place a sysex bulk at the begin of the track (recorded from a midi-dump).

the cool thing about the plugin IS the total recall. the integration in the host.

I'd never use the knobs of the plugin.. sounddiver is something different.

This plugin is about NOT having to sysex bump - which is stonage and so over.

[4damind]

Fire up a sysex dump and recording is a thing that needs only some seconds. For me its not a thing where I need a 50$ plugin.

If someone needs an great editor with integration in the host there is a better solution: Midiquest from SoundQuest. This has a large list of supported instruments, VST integration and there is a demo available.

[analographi]

Originally Posted by 4damind

Fire up a sysex dump and recording is a thing that needs only some seconds. For me its not a thing where I need a 50$ plugin.

Well, depends on how you work. oo.. damm I changed the sound in the last session and forgot to bump it... did I bump the patch since I last changed it?... seconds which totally make me not use my nordlead

If someone needs an great editor with integration in the host there is a better solution: Midiquest from SoundQuest. This has a large list of supported instruments, VST integration and there is a demo available.

looks good, but does it total recall too?

[analographi]

Originally Posted by 4damind

If someone needs an great editor with integration in the host there is a better solution: Midiquest from SoundQuest. This has a large list of supported instruments, VST integration and there is a demo available.

have you seen the price? 300 USD!!! are you kidding me?

[zebastian21]

Originally Posted by analographi

have you seen the price? 300 USD!!! are you kidding me?

if you have Logic with XS key then you can download Soundiver and use it, as long as the key is plugged in....Im not sure how it compares to midiquest though....anyone?

[analographi]

Originally Posted by zebastian21

if you have Logic with XS key then you can download Soundiver and use it, as long as the key is plugged in....Im not sure how it compares to midiquest though....anyone?

the good thing about rekon or soundquest is its total integration into the main sequencer.

Meaning you open it like a plugin and control your synth from there. best of all, most usefull, don't worry about saving and recalling your patches, rekon and soundquest do that for you. just open up your project and your midi synth is setup the way it was...

unfortunately soundquest is far to expensive and rekon audio has some issues with cubase and is not consequently brought to an end.

All synths should come with such a plugin in the first place. like the TI.
I reall don't understand what the companies are waiting for.

[SWAN808]

I think to be honest many poeple dont find it too much of an issue to load a DAW then load the patch in a MIDI instrument.

Sometimes I edit the instrument with an editor outside the DAW. I usually run the outboard synth directly into my DAW to track and monitor.

I had a Virus TI and its nice.

I think its a lot of work for Access tho. Thats why hardware synth makes make hardware. So its on their own DSP end of.

MIDI may be old fashioned but it works.

I dont really yearn for integration of my outboard synths. Those Rekon editors are supposedly quite buggy and not well supported....

[nicolasmasset]

Any further comments from users of this with the nordlead?

Also, how do you make a sysex file in the beginning of your track? Do you let the midi track record and then "dump one"? That doesn't seem to do it for me. I use sysex librarian now, but having it in the project would make life easier.

[technog0d]

Midiquest isn't bad. I used it for some of my instruments. It is pretty straight forward to setup and it supports alot of instruments. The integration is very nice.

[nicolasmasset]

Originally Posted by technog0d

Midiquest isn't bad. I used it for some of my instruments. It is pretty straight forward to setup and it supports alot of instruments. The integration is very nice.

Yeah, but it's too expensive. I think I might just stick with sysex librarian