Software that tells you what key?

[d.dot]

I saw a cool app at a studio the other day where you drop in a snippet of audio and the software tells you what key it's in. In my case it was a vocal snippet. I forgot to ask what it was called. Does anyone know?

Thanks in advance.

[isham]

should be melodyne --> celemony_ :: That's Melodyne

[manning1]

d.dot
check out realband sometime from PG Music Inc. - Band-in-a-Box, PowerTracks Pro Audio, and More...

if you load in an mp3 or wave audio of a song it'll tell you the chords in the song..!!
its rather interesting.

[psycho_monkey]

Originally Posted by d.dot

I saw a cool app at a studio the other day where you drop in a snippet of audio and the software tells you what key it's in. In my case it was a vocal snippet. I forgot to ask what it was called. Does anyone know?

Thanks in advance.

Can't say that's something I'll ever need! I use these stickons called ears

[Chris Luzz]

Mixed In Key does that.

Mixed In Key - Harmonic Mixing DJ Software

[The Beatsmith]

it takes less than 3 seconds with a keyboard or guitar in your hands?

[Filc]

hi
i have cusetion do you know why www.givemebeats.com doesn't work?i can't
open this website...
pleas help me and tell me what i do wrong
thanks

[Alex Specht]

This is a problem because for certain plugs such as auto-tune you need to know the key of the melody, which sounds simple,

however if the melody consists of 5 notes, it can be in multiple different scales, modes, minor major, accidentals, enharmonic notes etc....

This can be confusing for someone who has not studied or been force fed music theory.

[drakewire]

Thank God Audio Engineer's aren't musicians... After reading this thread, I think we'd have some trouble....

[waltermusik]

Originally Posted by psycho_monkey

Can't say that's something I'll ever need! I use these stickons called ears

This expensive, energy consuming (*), hard-to-maintain, weather dependent outboard gear. And even analogue! Ugh!

(*) Edit: "and heat producing"

[mavano]

Originally Posted by psycho_monkey

Can't say that's something I'll ever need! I use these stickons called ears

Most people aren't blessed (cursed) with perfect pitch. Ears and a sound source should do the trick in a couple of seconds though.

[psycho_monkey]

Originally Posted by mavano

Most people aren't blessed (cursed) with perfect pitch. Ears and a sound source should do the trick in a couple of seconds though.

I'm not either. I've developed pretty good relative pitch though, so give me that and a guitar/piano and I'm set.

To be a little snobby about things, if you can't work out the key of a track, or the chords in it by ear, how good is your music going to sound? It's a pretty basic, essential musical skill.

[manning1]

a tip.
over the years ive worked out chords to tons/hundreds of songs i like
so i can either play rhythm or lead along with them for fun.
old cream thu dire straits etc.
this was before software products came out that will do such things.
like figuring out chords etc. like realband i mentioned earlier.
the key is to listen to the bass player.
this will give the chords away.

after doing it many times one gets a feel for it.
i never resort to searching for the chords on line...
cos i like the fun of working out the chords.

the other key is to tune ones guitar to the track on the cd.
also one has to be carefull. cos not all tunes follow
standard tuning. for example when i play along with all along the watchtower
n other jimi songs, i have to custom tune my guitar down about a semi tone.

[Ru_C]

Originally Posted by psycho_monkey

To be a little snobby about things, if you can't work out the key of a track, or the chords in it by ear, how good is your music going to sound? It's a pretty basic, essential musical skill.

I am with that i have to say. If not, the next question will be..

Is there any software to tell me if this is in time?

Is there any software to tell me if this if this guitar tone is good?



etc

[James Meeker]

Originally Posted by Ru_C

Is there any software to tell me if this is in time?

Is there any software to tell me if this if this guitar tone is good?

People are friggin' lazy now.

Here's an idea: if you can't cook, keep out of the kitchen.

[hipass]

My ears tell me what key/

[zebastian21]

Originally Posted by James Meeker

People are friggin' lazy now.

Here's an idea: if you can't cook, keep out of the kitchen.

I was checking out the "Mix in key" website and it seems a lot of very well respected and successful djs are using this software...I guess they are cooking without knowing as you say?
hhmmm.... they do pretty well regardless

[James Meeker]

Originally Posted by zebastian21

I was checking out the "Mix in key" website and it seems a lot of very well respected and successful djs are using this software...I guess they are cooking without knowing as you say?
hhmmm.... they do pretty well regarless

Gee you got me there Mr. Werner Von Braun.

SMD

[Dysanfel]

[zakco]

Originally Posted by zebastian21

I was checking out the "Mix in key" website and it seems a lot of very well respected and successful djs are using this software...I guess they are cooking without knowing as you say?
hhmmm.... they do pretty well regardless

DJs...yep that explains it.
Musicians wouldn't need this product.

[d.dot]

For those who tried to answer the question, thank you. However I really don't understand the other judgmental replies. My assistant used this app to quickly convince the producer that the key I previously told him the track was in was actually correct. I thought it may be good idea to have the software in case this situation presented itself again. (i.e. If you don't trust my ears then ask the computer) I wasn't in my regular room nor with my regular assistant. It wasn't band in a box or melodyne.

[zebastian21]

Originally Posted by d.dot

For those who tried to answer the question, thank you. However I really don't understand the other judgmental replies. My assistant used this app to quickly convince the producer that the key I previously told him the track was in was actually correct. I thought it may be good idea to have the software in case this situation presented itself again. (i.e. If you don't trust my ears then ask the computer) I wasn't in my regular room nor with my regular assistant. It wasn't band in a box or melodyne.

yeah its annoying when people reply not to be helpful but to show some kind of superiority, better not to reply if you aint helpful right?
so did you end up settling for any software ? im looking at melodyne myself.
btw: I really like your myspace musicthumbsup

[theblue1]

I must be cruel only to be kind.

-- that Shakey guy, Hamlet Act 3, scene 4, 173–179


That said, for non-musicians involved with trying to make music or mashups, such a tool could, indeed, prove helpful.

But as musicians know, much contemporary western music modulates to varying degrees and in varying natures in the course of a given work. A piece of software or a device that 'guesses' what key a work is in -- in a given section -- by analyzing the notes played may be helpful when used with an overarching understanding of the issues involved, but it could easily end up being a crutch that simply gets in the way of moving forward.

[d.dot]

Originally Posted by zebastian21

yeah its annoying when people reply not to be helpful but to show some kind of superiority, better not to reply if you aint helpful right?
so did you end up settling for any software ? im looking at melodyne myself.
btw: I really like your myspace musicthumbsup

Thank you Sir.

[henryrobinett]

Not trying to be snide -- honestly. But music is not complicated. Understanding to the extent of finding keys is simple. You don't NEED to have a computer program to do this.

[theblue1]

I know a DJ, a spinner, who became a turntablist and mixer, then became a sampler user, loading up with vinyl samples to do stuff he could only dream of on 'tables and then started working in various keyboard elements.

But at the bottom of it he had enough intimate familiarity with the music he was mixing up and grew the ability to intuit when two pieces of music would fit together, which is key to music the way he grew into it -- even though it's a lot different than the way people who started as instrumentalists would probably approach it.


If you can't hear it and you can't figure it out, why not just let the machines do it all, eh?

After all, machine or not, they clearly have a better ear.

[zebastian21]

I understand, the basic concept of music is the knowledge of its fundamental theory. Im new to music theory and learning as I go, but at the same time that didnt stop me from working for very successful dance music producers who need what I can offer.
The point Im trying to make is, if at any given time you use technology to help you out in your weaknesses then thats alright, to each his own.
I dont appreciate when in forums where people ask for help some reply with an attitude of superiority. I believe it would be better not to reply at all in the first place if its not helpful.
if someone asks about a software to find key of a song so what... if you dont know of any just dont answer, if you dont need that kind of thing great for you!
if you are nice enough to recommend a software or a great book or site to learn basics of music ,thats more helpful and contributes more to the forum community than trying to put someone down.
Lets not forget we all know more and less than others, lets be humble enough to help those who know less than ourselves.thumbsup

[zebastian21]

Originally Posted by zakco

DJs...yep that explains it.
Musicians wouldn't need this product.

yep...Djs..the ones who make you dance and shake you booty all night long on weekends

[henryrobinett]

Look, I am trying to help. Study music. That's the best help I can offer. Honestly.

Knowing what key music is in is not being superior. It's simply a basic understanding of the thing many do professionally. If you love something and have ability, why not go the extra mile and understand how it works?

[zebastian21]

Originally Posted by henryrobinett

Look, I am trying to help. Study music. That's the best help I can offer. Honestly.

Knowing what key music is in is not being superior. It's simply a basic understanding of the thing many do professionally. If you love something and have ability, why not go the extra mile and understand how it works?

sorry man...that was no personal reply to you, if you read from the beginning of the original post you will see what Im referring to