Anyone tried Nebula?

[insomnio]

Well, now I'm getting deeper in this Nebula stuff. This thing is incredible! I used the 70-Vocal III verb in a song I was working on. It immediately glue to the mix like a real Lexicon do. Then I compared the Angels Eq to my UAD-1073 I was using in the vocal track. Again it was better! I didn't know something was missing from the UAD 1073 till I heard the Nebula. That change in color when you push that knob is there so obvious.

Further in, I tried the RND 5088 programs in the buses of an already finished mix. It added a nice shine and some weight in the lows. It was subtle, but it was there. It's nothing like a maximizer, this you can use as part of every track.

This is going to turn my world. I wish I can go back to the mixes I just finished to put 40 instances of Nebula all over.

Superb work by Giancarlo and the developers of new programs for it, like Alex B.

[insomnio]

Now, for the second part:
Could anyone tell me how to download the Doc Fear, and such, programs from Nebula-programs.com??????

I'm registered and everything. But I feel so stupid and frustrated. I've had these nightmares before: I'm in line to lunch but I can't get to it (and, of course, as any of these nightmares, I'm nude).

I don't know what the hell I'm not doing, or if I'm supposed to be part of a special group or something...I don't know! There is a small download button there, but is just a 20kb file that my computer can't even identify. I've been the last three nights trying...this is bad for my heart health, man.

[zaphod]

it's time for a doc.fear diving then.
Velinas is back, so you are able to download from Home :: nebula-programs.com
Use a bittorrent client for mac osx. There is awesome (and free stuff on that site). And if you have 10 bucks you could even buy the commercial edition.
Velinas is a very generous guy :D
Most of developers would have sold those emulations for hundreds. Maybe best eq emulations in the world

[zaphod]

just register on that site, you'll be accepted automatically. Than use a bittorrent client, for example azureus while you are logged in. I never tried using a mac, but I guess it will work pretty well.

[O'Ryan]

Rtas! Rtas! Rtas!

[insomnio]

Originally Posted by zaphod

it's time for a doc.fear diving then.

Woa! Man, this is the shit!!
When I read everybody talking about the Doc Fear I didn't realize it was this awesome. This IS the best pluign Eq I've heard by a long shot. That thing made me laugh, literally.


Could you, please, tell me how to buy the commercial version?



Thanks again Giancarlo , and thank Velinas. God bless.

[Everbeatz]

Originally Posted by insomnio

Woa! Man, this is the shit!!
When I read everybody talking about the Doc Fear I didn't realize it was this awesome. This IS the best pluign Eq I've heard by a long shot. That thing made me laugh, literally.


Could you, please, tell me how to buy the commercial version?

How did you try doc.fear eq without commercial version?

[insomnio]

Originally Posted by Everlast

How did you try doc.fear eq without commercial version?

What are you talking about? I bough the Nebula 2 last week and then the Nebula 3 today. What are you, a detective?

[Everbeatz]

Originally Posted by insomnio

What are you talking about? I bough the Nebula 2 last week and then the Nebula 3 today. What are you, a detective?

Just chill man, I'm asking a logical question here - I thought you had a free version and you were able to do it since nebula-programs are opened to everyone now

[mim]

goto

analoginthebox.com

and buy it

[4damind]

Originally Posted by insomnio

Woa! Man, this is the shit!!
When I read everybody talking about the Doc Fear I didn't realize it was this awesome. This IS the best pluign Eq I've heard by a long shot. That thing made me laugh, literally.


Could you, please, tell me how to buy the commercial version?



Thanks again Giancarlo , and thank Velinas. God bless.

Yes, it seems to be the killer Eq? (people praises this doc fear on most forums). Unfortunately no version (also not the community version of doc fear) work with the free Nebula3. I wish there was a strong limited version (only to get an idea) for the free Nebula3!
After testing the Nebula3 free, I came to the conclusion: its for me not usable as a Reverb (CPU hog!) and the compressor part its not very comfortable to use. But Nebula can shine with EQs and as a alternative to TritonDigital "Colortone".

I'm not very happy with all plugin Eq's when it comes to smoothness and complete emulation of nonlinearities. The only solution would be to buy a hardware Eq but this could be untrue with Nebula3

[captain caveman]

Originally Posted by insomnio

This IS the best pluign Eq I've heard by a long shot.

Absolutely. The API 550b, BA1073, Angels and others are fantastic too and really are a leap ahead of any other plugin EQ.

The fantastic thing about Nebula is that it doesn't just do EQs really well.

I really don't know why more people aren't buying this - for 80 euros it's literally plugin bargain of the century.

[JustinAiken]

Originally Posted by captain caveman

I really don't know why more people aren't buying this - for 80 euros it's literally plugin bargain of the century.

Because Logic and Pro Tools users can't, and we make up a large share (or the majority) of the market...

I wanna... I love the way the clips I've heard sound...

[captain caveman]

Originally Posted by JustinAiken

Because Logic and Pro Tools users can't, and we make up a large share (or the majority) of the market...

I wanna... I love the way the clips I've heard sound...

It's worth switching to Fruity Loops on a PC for though.

Seriously though, apparently the Mac version is very close so hopefully the AU and RTAS wrappers will work ok with it.

[insomnio]

Originally Posted by 4damind

Yes, it seems to be the killer Eq? (people praises this doc fear on most forums). Unfortunately no version (also not the community version of doc fear) work with the free Nebula3. I wish there was a strong limited version (only to get an idea) for the free Nebula3!
After testing the Nebula3 free, I came to the conclusion: its for me not usable as a Reverb (CPU hog!) and the compressor part its not very comfortable to use. But Nebula can shine with EQs and as a alternative to TritonDigital "Colortone".

I'm not very happy with all plugin Eq's when it comes to smoothness and complete emulation of nonlinearities. The only solution would be to buy a hardware Eq but this could be untrue with Nebula3

I went to Nebula 3 Free to see if it worked in my system, and I liked it. Then, went to Nebula 2 to taste the library, and I liked it a lot. Then went to Nebula 3 because it work somewhat better than the 2, and because these guys are giving so much and working very hard. I think is fair to buy the last version.

I encourage you, and Everlast too, to buy the Nebula 2 if you're too short of money. Man, it's just 20 Euros ($28). For those exquisite programs!! It doesn't come better than this.

[insomnio]

Originally Posted by Everlast

Just chill man, I'm asking a logical question here - I thought you had a free version and you were able to do it since nebula-programs are opened to everyone now

Sorry man, I though you were assuming I'm a hacker or something. Peace.

[EddieTheRed]

I'm using Nebula with the Doc Fear EQ (plus Angels, API etc) and the Allesandro Boschi consoles.

His modelled API and Neve consoles (MBC + MWC) really add a whole new dimension to my ITB mixes. I'm normally suspicious of any plugin that just makes everything sound better but this stuff's astonishing!

Doc Fear is definitely the best sounding ITB EQ I've ever used, but I'm really not fond of the Nebula interface for dialling in EQ . . . I am finding the modelled EQ preamps really lend a whole new lease of life to the URS, Waves etc stuff though, without too much fiddling about in Nebula, so it's all good.

Liking Nebula an awful lot. The CPU hit (and, I must admit, the interface) are not ideal by any means, but I'm finding it's worth the extra effort for the sounds this thing makes.

As ever, YMMV, but I really recomend it!

Now if Nebula had a bus comp as good as Doc Fear . . .

*swoons*

[insomnio]

Originally Posted by EddieTheRed

I'm using Nebula with the Doc Fear EQ (plus Angels, API etc) and the Allesandro Boschi consoles.

His modelled API and Neve consoles (MBC + MWC) really add a whole new dimension to my ITB mixes. I'm normally suspicious of any plugin that just makes everything sound better but this stuff's astonishing!

Doc Fear is definitely the best sounding ITB EQ I've ever used, but I'm really not fond of the Nebula interface for dialling in EQ . . . I am finding the modelled EQ preamps really lend a whole new lease of life to the URS, Waves etc stuff though, without too much fiddling about in Nebula, so it's all good.

Liking Nebula an awful lot. The CPU hit (and, I must admit, the interface) are not ideal by any means, but I'm finding it's worth the extra effort for the sounds this thing makes.

As ever, YMMV, but I really recomend it!
Now if Nebula had a bus comp as good as Doc Fear . . .

*swoons*

Would you explain how are you using the consoles samples?
Are you using them just in the Buses and Master Bus, or in each track as well?
What about the Drive parameter?
Did you put them before mixing or before?
Etc.

[EddieTheRed]

After I've finished all my edits, when I'm ready to start mixing, the first thing I do is to use the Offline plugin processing menu in Cubase to apply Nebula to all of my stems, with the correct type of input (ie the mic inputs for mic'd channels, and line inputs for DI'd bass, etc). For the offline processing I use Nebula 2 Reverb, with the quality set to maximum.

I then apply an instance of the master program to the Master Bus, and the appriopriate programs to my group and FX busses. I use Nebula set to minimum quality for this, and mix through them (and a bus compressor - Waves SSL with the white console programs or API 2500 with the black console. Don't ask why).

When the mix is finished I note down my Cubase pan settings and apply these to channels offline using the analogue panner in Nebula (anal, I know) I also apply API/Neve/etc preamp saturation before EQ'ing with Waves or URS . . . When I'm done I bounce my sub groups and FX channels. I then apply the console with high quality Nebula 2 Reverb, offline. I then bounce my master bus and do the same (I use an aux before the master fader, FYI.)

I find it's key to use programs from the same console for an entire mix. I get a really cohesive sound this way. (Looking forward to Allesandro's console panner!)

It's hard to describe the affect these programs have on the mix - everything just seems to open up and the way the channels interact with each other just becomes much more natural and (flame away) . . . analogue feeling.

It's less work than it sounds, honest!

P.S - with Alex's progams I don't touch the drive control. 96KHz is recomended but I work at 44.1KHz/24 bit because this many instances of Nebula gives me enough CPU headaches as it is . . .

P.P.S - Using URS CSP Pro, Waves SSL/API/RBass, Altiverb, IK CSR, Sonalksis EQ, Nebula and occasionally some 'effects'! I can count the plugs I use on most mixes on 2 hands. Using a small set of plugs seems to make it much easier to get everything to sit together.

P.P.P.S - I am in no way affiliated with Acusticaudio or Alessandro B. I wish I was . . .

[EddieTheRed]

I guess it's weird that I'm using Nebula as a saturation plug and not doing any other processing with it but it seems to workfor me!

If you've got any other questions fire away, guys . . .

[Football]

Originally Posted by EddieTheRed

After I've finished all my edits, when I'm ready to start mixing, the first thing I do is to use the Offline plugin processing menu in Cubase to apply Nebula to all of my stems, with the correct type of input (ie the mic inputs for mic'd channels, and line inputs for DI'd bass, etc). For the offline processing I use Nebula 2 Reverb, with the quality set to maximum.

I then apply an instance of the master program to the Master Bus, and the appriopriate programs to my group and FX busses. I use Nebula set to minimum quality for this, and mix through them (and a bus compressor - Waves SSL with the white console programs or API 2500 with the black console. Don't ask why).

When the mix is finished I note down my Cubase pan settings and apply these to channels offline using the analogue panner in Nebula (anal, I know) I also apply API/Neve/etc preamp saturation before EQ'ing with Waves or URS . . . When I'm done I bounce my sub groups and FX channels. I then apply the console with high quality Nebula 2 Reverb, offline. I then bounce my master bus and do the same (I use an aux before the master fader, FYI.)

I find it's key to use programs from the same console for an entire mix. I get a really cohesive sound this way. (Looking forward to Allesandro's console panner!)

It's hard to describe the affect these programs have on the mix - everything just seems to open up and the way the channels interact with each other just becomes much more natural and (flame away) . . . analogue feeling.

It's less work than it sounds, honest!

P.S - with Alex's progams I don't touch the drive control. 96KHz is recomended but I work at 44.1KHz/24 bit because this many instances of Nebula gives me enough CPU headaches as it is . . .

P.P.S - Using URS CSP Pro, Waves SSL/API/RBass, Altiverb, IK CSR, Sonalksis EQ, Nebula and occasionally some 'effects'! I can count the plugs I use on most mixes on 2 hands. Using a small set of plugs seems to make it much easier to get everything to sit together.

P.P.P.S - I am in no way affiliated with Acusticaudio or Alessandro B. I wish I was . . .

Would you consider posting a snippet of a mix like this?

[EddieTheRed]

Originally Posted by Football

Would you consider posting a snippet of a mix like this?

I'll do a quick mix this evening, bounce it and then remove all the Nebula instances and post both, if people are interested.

Not exacly a fair test but it should be plenty interesting!

[Football]

Originally Posted by EddieTheRed

I'll do a quick mix this evening, bounce it and then remove all the Nebula instances and post both, if people are interested.

Not exacly a fair test but it should be plenty interesting!

Awesome, thank you.

[insomnio]

Originally Posted by EddieTheRed

After I've finished all my edits, when I'm ready to start mixing, the first thing I do is to use the Offline plugin processing menu in Cubase to apply Nebula to all of my stems, with the correct type of input (ie the mic inputs for mic'd channels, and line inputs for DI'd bass, etc). For the offline processing I use Nebula 2 Reverb, with the quality set to maximum.

I then apply an instance of the master program to the Master Bus, and the appriopriate programs to my group and FX busses. I use Nebula set to minimum quality for this, and mix through them (and a bus compressor - Waves SSL with the white console programs or API 2500 with the black console. Don't ask why).

When the mix is finished I note down my Cubase pan settings and apply these to channels offline using the analogue panner in Nebula (anal, I know) I also apply API/Neve/etc preamp saturation before EQ'ing with Waves or URS . . . When I'm done I bounce my sub groups and FX channels. I then apply the console with high quality Nebula 2 Reverb, offline. I then bounce my master bus and do the same (I use an aux before the master fader, FYI.)

It's less work than it sounds, honest!

That's super cool information!!
So, you're doing submixing to save CPU? You cannot mix all the way through with all instances fully opened, or you have other reasons?

[EddieTheRed]

Originally Posted by insomnio

That's super cool information!!
So, you're doing submixing to save CPU? You cannot mix all the way through with all instances fully opened, or you have other reasons?

I can't run Nebula Reverb at maximum quality on 30+ tracks, no

I'm still on a dual core E6600 at 2x2.4GHz, so I apply the input sims while I input the tracks, and then mix through the others, freezing and bouncing as necessary (but always bouncing at maximum quality!)

Give it a try! It's a €60 euro investment for Nebula + commerical libraries + one of the consoles. We spend that on a weekend's supply of drinks . . .

[zaphod]

I posted a little dos application: you could process a whole folder (all your wav files) at once, for example overnight. So you'll emulate an expensive console easily and without efforts.

[EddieTheRed]

Hey zaphod, whereabouts have you posted the app?

Was looking for it earlier in the week but couldn't find it! Link me!

Regards & congratulations, by the way

[nicolasmasset]

Does nebula 2 also work on mac?

[ezod]

Originally Posted by EddieTheRed

...whereabouts have you posted the app?

Was looking for it earlier in the week but couldn't find it! Link me!

Here is the thread about the Nebula renderer:

Acusticaudio Forums-viewtopic-Nebula render

I have been working in a very similar way Eddie. Loving Alex B's console on busses and I use the renderer to put his Tube Pres and busses on wavs in folders prior to mixing. I had to read that thread really carefully before I got everything rightly configured for the renderer, but once I got it, I have saved a lot of time. You will probably need a batch renamer, a couple are linked to on one of the pages in that Acustica thread.

[zaphod]

Originally Posted by EddieTheRed

Hey zaphod, whereabouts have you posted the app?

Was looking for it earlier in the week but couldn't find it! Link me!

Regards & congratulations, by the way

Acusticaudio Forums-viewtopic-Nebula render

I could port it to mac osx easily (it's a command line application)