Anyone tried Nebula?

[zaphod]

double post

[zaphod]

Originally Posted by KingDiamond

I think it sounds good but the interface is lacking. I'm a programmer and I think the plugin is made more from a programmer's perspective than a user's perspective. If the plugin had a better interface and better file handling then I think it would develop a much bigger userbase.

we dedicated just a small amount of time to the gui.

* around 50% of the efforts were invested in the engine, research and libraries
* 20% in vst support and bug fixing
* 25% in nat3 (which has A GREAT GUI imho) and cuda.
* Around 5% of efforts were spent on the graphic interface. We didn't implement strange things, because busy with the mac porting.

now I want to add a consideration.I'm a musician.
With a bit of research you could verify that the whole gui thingy is a tribute to kurzweil, in my opinion the best technology of ever.
Nebula has that interface because the programmer.... was exactly a musician.

We implemented nebula in that way because it was really straightforward and fast. We introduced a lot of parameters quickly.
BUT apart the apparent complexity, the plugin is really simple. I mean, each emulation could have till a maximum of 8 controls. Think to it a bit. If you remove the display.... could you imagine something easier? eh eh
the discussed gui nightmare will be our strength...

[Farshad]

I am not sure what is the main issue with the GUI. It is OK IMHO. I rather you guys spend some time improving the engine, latency, etc instead of photoshopping photo-realistic pictures of the gear being emulated (copyright issues aside).

[lllubi]

Originally Posted by Farshad

I am not sure what is the main issue with the GUI. It is OK IMHO. I rather you guys spend some time improving the engine, latency, etc instead of photoshopping photo-realistic pictures of the gear being emulated (copyright issues aside).

did read that Nebula4 will have separate GUI for compressors and eqs
seems we will get multiple frequencies in a plug then
unfortunately it says late 2009

[JustinAiken]

*sigh* Wish I'd seen the request for Mac beta testers before it was too late...

*WAITS*

[loosejaw]

I bought this program because of all the hype, but dont bother, all the good emulations are impossible to download, have been trying for 3 days to download the simulators that everyone is raving about...big disapointment so far

[davidperetz]

Hi there
let's see if i can help here.
the Nebula-Program samples are an ongoing project for the community of nebula owners therefore can only be downloaded (for free) by nebula owners.
since the programs are distributed through the torrent network, and since the community of nebula is a small community, it may take some time (from 2-3 days to a week or more) to download the torrent's. especially the big ones who are most likely the best samples.
beside that it is really important that you will configure the torrent client as suggested in the Nebula Program site.
don't let that distract you from getting the nebula as its really an amazing tool. well worth the time it takes to get it.
in the meantime you can donwload the Nebula commercial library straight from their site - which has some fantastic preset's too.

[JustinAiken]

Why don't they upload them to something fast like megashare or mediafire?

[zaphod]

we are mirroring on megaupload and boxnet. We have a premium silver account for the first, and a business account for the second. We'll add new mirrors asap

[lllubi]

boxed version?

[zaphod]

yes, we promised, and we distributed the boxed version as promotional copy at AES. At the moment we are not interested in distributing a boxed version. Maybe we'll look for a distributor

[loosejaw]

Finally got some of the emaulations downloaded i want, andi just wanted to say that i am very happy with the product, besides being a little turned off at first, these guys have done a great job, and even though it was a little tough in the early going, these people have great support, and i wanted to retract my earlier recomondation and just say that this is a great product at a great price...thanks Nebula gang

cheers
Jilly

[davidperetz]

hi there

Glad you insisted and liked it - Nebula is really a unique project and so rewarding that although it can seem unfriendly at the beginning it pays off to go with it all the way.
Giancarlo (Zaphod round here ) and Velinas (from Nebula-Programs forum) are amazing helpers. great support like no other.

B.T.W quite liked the Nebula Gang idea - so welcome to the Gang man.

[zaphod]

thank you.
About your previous issue, we received this message from box.net

Hello,
The issue you have reported was recently fixed. Thank you for your patience in this matter; we apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused. If your experience suggests otherwise, then please reply to this message and we will look into the matter right away.
Sincerely,
The Box.net team

[T9c]

I downloaded the free version last night, but haven't loaded it yet on my system.

I am shopping for upgrades to my hardware. I now have a AMD64x2 2.2gHz cpu & 3 g RAM. I am wanting to upgrade to a new Asus P5Q and Q6600 or faster cpu.

My host is Sonar 6 PE and also use a PCI UAD, mostly LA2A and Plate 140 in several instances per song.

I was going to update my UAD system, but once I read all the great reviews about the Nebula, I am going with it instead.

My question is about Nebula's cpu requirements. Do you think the Q6600 is fast enough for several instances of Neb? I could also spring for the Q9300 or Q9550 if necessary.

thanks,
Rick

[zaphod]

yes, it's fast enough. Reverbs are cpu intensive, but you could open 10-15. An user reported 40 instances of a dynamic preset (analog channel). We'll release a fast engine named CoreII, equalisers will be rather light.

[limey222]

Well I'm at a bit of a loss to be honest. It's not the easiest application to setup and use. The setup instructions could do with a rewite. I finally stumbled on to those concerning the .ser file at the very end of the Q&A section, it should have been right up front. Remember we are option dealing with musicians here not IT people. I have it loaded on my DAW and authorized, I still don't seem to be able to view all of the items that I downloaded. On top of that I think that those that I really need are on the nebula-programs.com site and despite emailing as directed I'm still not authorized.
I'm also concerned about having to use Torrent, I hate granting access to my computer, is there any other way?
Is it all worth it once you are up and running?

[davidperetz]

Hi there

one thing you have to remember is that Velinas ( the guy from Nebula-Program) is doing all the registration and authorization alone and since he lives in a different time zone than yours. so it may take a while to get you authorized in the nebula program site.
when i try to register to nebula program, Velinas was away on vacation or something. it took me a week or more to get in - it drove me crazy. so i can understand how you feel. but be patience it's really worth it when it's up and running that you'll forget all the trouble it took you to get there.
in the meantime, get to know the nebula and the commercial library. there are wonderful samples there too.(the tapes - the paner, the avalon and SSL eq|(disguised by name so you will have to figure it out for yourself which is which ) ,the Chorus - plenty of stuff)
as far as i know there is no other way to get the samples than the torrent. you can download it to Web computer and import them. it's not important that you will download them straight to your DAW.
if you have any problem's with the installation or the work flow. just ask and I'm quite sure you will get a lot of help here and/or at the acousticaudio forum.

[limey222]

Hi David,
OK , thanks for the words of encouragement. Velinas actualkly sent me an email just after I posted this to tell me that was now authorized. I downloaded Vuze and have tried to set things up properly, I 've even managed to download a couple of files (API & Neve) from the site. I'm not sure if I'm configured properly, I can't locate where to disable Scrape, PEX, DHT and UpNp in Vuze.

Also I can only find the few items that are on the main page at nebula-programs.com. Where are all the other files located? Liked the BAE pre etc?

Originally Posted by davidperetz

Hi there

one think you have to remember is that Velinas ( the guy from Nebula-Program) is doing all the registration and authorization alone and since he lives in a different time zone than yours. so it may take a while to get you authorized in the nebula program site.
when i try to register to nebula program, Velinas was away on vacation or something. it took me a week or more to get in - it drove me crazy. so i can understand how you feel. but be patience it's really worth it when it's up and running that you'll forget all the trouble it took you to get there.
in the meantime, get to know the nebula and the commercial library. there are wonderful samples there too.(the tapes - the paner, the avalon and SSL eq|(disguised by name so you will have to figure it out for yourself which is which ) ,the Chorus - plenty of stuff)
as far as i know there is no other way to get the samples than the torrent. you can download it to Web computer and import them. it's not important that you will download them straight to your DAW.
if you have any problem's with the installation or the work flow. just ask and I'm quite sure you will get a lot of help here and/or at the acousticaudio forum.

[davidperetz]

Hi there Michael
about the torrent program - i don't know the Vuze to be of any help there. but try Utorrent it's very small easy and uncomplicated.

if you enter the main Nebula Program page you will see the forum link to the left . The samples are divided by category into sub forums
scroll downwards and you will see forums of preamps - eq - reverbs - tape - etc.
inside the forums you have threads to every sampling session. the torrent of the samples reside inside the threads.

b.t.w what do you make of of the samples you downloaded so far? did you installed and used them?

[MarkusColeman]

Originally Posted by zaphod

we are mirroring on megaupload and boxnet. We have a premium silver account for the first, and a business account for the second. We'll add new mirrors asap

hey zaphod. the rapidshare.com has arguably the fastest and most reliable servers in the industry.
they offer direct-download accounts for companies - all you need to do is upload the files and put the direct links on your site. you get rates up to 3MB (Byte not bit) per second.

as far as Nebula goes: it's being used over here on almost EVERY SINGLE track.

I'm on a fast quad core and use approx. a dozen of Nebula instances per track.
the GUI doesn't bother me that much - actually, knowing and using most of the hardware which was used for the product, I can say that the GUI is very user friendly.
I want a sonic EMULATION, not Playstation 3 HD graphics.
if I had to "switch" between different concepts (e.g. look of a compressor vs. look of reverb or delay), I wouldn't use the product that much.

as a tip from a hardcore user: Nebula is not magic, it is a nice collection of spices.
use it accordingly. unless you are on an old and outdated pc, why not use three different Nebula programs to add different flavors to the track?

when you saturate the tape - why not use 2-3 of them, in serial mode and add some flavor with every stage?

the EQs are fantastic, the Reverbs and Multi-FX are very good, the tape emulations are really, really useful (put two Color tapes in serial and drive them lightly and you will HEAR what I mean), pre-amps are nice.

so is it worth the price? EVERY SINGLE PRESET is.
the interesting thing about the technology is, that the scans of the hardware get better AND the available CPU cycles increase.

a real MUST HAVE if you work in the digital domain. thumbsup

[zaphod]

EH, yes, I know, rapidshare is very good... but last time I checked it it was rather expensive. We are trying to limit costs, in order to keep our prices low. I can't exclude we'll raise prices and we'll use a better/reliable/faster server!

[slapswan]

I don't wish to hijack the thread, but since the subject of Nebula 3 and Nebula-program samples has been raised I have a question to ask to any of you in the know.

I own a registered commercial version of Nebula 3. I have no problems with downloading and using the commercial libraries from the acusticaudio site; however, I am unable to use any of the downloaded user samples from the Nebula-program site. I am able to download and install the samples, but when I try to select and load one of those samples from within the Nebula 3 program, the message "Loading: 208" is displayed. This causes the Nebula 3 program to crash, causing the DAW to later crash as well. It doesn't matter what user sample I try to load the response is the same in all cases. I tried removing these samples and reinstalling them, making sure that they were installed in the proper folder(s), but this had no effect. Does any one recognize this problem. And if so, any suggestions? I am just about ready to give up on this function of the program.

[zaphod]

Originally Posted by slapswan

I don't wish to hijack the thread, but since the subject of Nebula 3 and Nebula-program samples has been raised I have a question to ask to any of you in the know.

I own a registered commercial version of Nebula 3. I have no problems with downloading and using the commercial libraries from the acusticaudio site; however, I am unable to use any of the downloaded user samples from the Nebula-program site. I am able to download and install the samples, but when I try to select and load one of those samples from within the Nebula 3 program, the message "Loading: 208" is displayed. This causes the Nebula 3 program to crash, causing the DAW to later crash as well. It doesn't matter what user sample I try to load the response is the same in all cases. I tried removing these samples and reinstalling them, making sure that they were installed in the proper folder(s), but this had no effect. Does any one recognize this problem. And if so, any suggestions? I am just about ready to give up on this function of the program.

upgrade to the latest available version, 1.3.181 or later. All troubles should be solved.

[slapswan]

Originally Posted by zaphod

upgrade to the latest available version, 1.3.181 or later. All troubles should be solved.

Thanks, that worked! Now to test those samples...

[O'Ryan]

Rtas ????

[huggie]

I'm hoping we see a Mac PPC version.

I have an MPC60 and SP1200 that I would love to try and emulate....

Hugo

[Farshad]

Originally Posted by huggie

I'm hoping we see a Mac PPC version.

I have an MPC60 and SP1200 that I would love to try and emulate....

Hugo

Would be great!

[Chaellus]

i tryed the demo and was blown away besides tritone this is prime as well..only i think with a bit of reworking the plug that it will be a valuble tool in the plugin world.

[nicolasmasset]

Originally Posted by Farshad

Agreed. Personally I prefer it over UAD stuff (specially the 1073). I have a quad core and can run several instances of Nebula with no problem. My limitation is Ram sometimes (have 4 gig right now).

How many instances is that? I'm getting a mac pro soon. Since nebula is only single band eq, and seeing as how I like to eq things, I wouldn't be surprised if I'd be using 30 instances per song, along with a whole bunch of other plugs of course. Is that doable? PS: The mac pro is probably going to be a new core i7.

Speaking of mac, any news on the mac version? Is that for this year or the next couple of months, or are we talking half a year here?

EDIT: Could anybody explain the nebula technology? Why is it that "revolutionary"? What's that sampling technique all about? Does it apply to the other fx (reverbs etc.) too?