APPLE TO USE INTEL CHIPS?

[jlotto]

very interesting. AMD and Intel are ahead of IBM on the dual core cpu's I guess. From the wall street journal:

NEW YORK - In what would be a major shift in the computer world, Apple reportedly is talking with Intel about using its chips in its Macintosh line.

The Wall Street Journal reported that the computer maker has been meeting with Intel, the world's largest chipmaker. The newspaper cited two industry executives with knowledge of recent discussions between the companies as saying that Apple will agree to use Intel chips.

Neither company would discuss the report, which Apple calls speculation.

According to the Journal, it is unclear what a deal would mean to Apple's relationship with IBM. Big Blue is the major chip supplier for Macintosh computers.

[nukmusic]

I heard this same thing about a year or so ago. I think is has something to do with the Apple/Motorola partnership.

[Johnny B]

Reading the "Wall Street Jungle" is a sure fire way to have so-called "experts" give you advice that is garranteed to to be wrong and make it easy for you to go broke ASAP.

Rarely, is the "Wall Street Jungle" right on anything, esp. war and poiltics. WMD anyone? According to the "Wall Street BUNGLE," Bush's atempts to kill Social Security is good for old people, having them become street people eating the remains out of garbage cans is good for the economy. The Wall Street Jungle is one of the most irresponsible rags known to mankind.

They will publish marketing hoopla by a Health South or Enron, drive up the price, and then sit back and blame others when the stock collapes

It's a worthless rag full of right wing propaganda.

As for Apple merely talking to AMD or Intel, that's not news, all chip makers and all computer system makers make these overtures all the time, the system makers must have a Second Source for components and all of them have long used this dance to leverage the other suppliers for a lower price or a garranteed supply.

Sorry, this ain't news, it's S.O.P.

BTW, Motorola and IBM will be pitching HP and Dell on a continuing basis, again, it's S.O.P.

Never trust anything you read in the Wall Street Jungle, it sucks.

[jlotto]

Tell us how u really feel Johnny B? lol!!!

[manning1]

what is scary is in yesterdays paper it said that basically apple is concerned about a stable supply of processors.
if true...this means - and i dont want people jumping on my back - that future g5 maintenance might be an issue. this reminds me of when i installed networks once. i was always concerned about reliance on one supplier.
i'll leave others to think of the ramifications of this as i dont want to get jumped on ....

[DrDeltaM]

FWIW, the Intel + Apple rumors might have to do with a tablet/PDA thingy that Apple is said to be working on, and nothing with the Mac line. it's all rumors anyway. In the end, what does it matter, as long as my box runs OSX, i'm fine.

I don't think IBM will do bad the upcoming years tho, don't forget the XBox2 uses an IBM 3-core CPU which probably will sell massively.

[marspe]

Originally Posted by Johnny B

Reading the "Wall Street Jungle" is a sure fire way to have so-called "experts" give you advice that is garranteed to to be wrong and make it easy for you to go broke ASAP.

Rarely, is the "Wall Street Jungle" right on anything, esp. war and poiltics. WMD anyone? According to the "Wall Street BUNGLE," Bush's atempts to kill Social Security is good for old people, having them become street people eating the remains out of garbage cans is good for the economy. The Wall Street Jungle is one of the most irresponsible rags known to mankind.

They will publish marketing hoopla by a Health South or Enron, drive up the price, and then sit back and blame others when the stock collapes

It's a worthless rag full of right wing propaganda.

As for Apple merely talking to AMD or Intel, that's not news, all chip makers and all computer system makers make these overtures all the time, the system makers must have a Second Source for components and all of them have long used this dance to leverage the other suppliers for a lower price or a garranteed supply.

Sorry, this ain't news, it's S.O.P.

BTW, Motorola and IBM will be pitching HP and Dell on a continuing basis, again, it's S.O.P.

Never trust anything you read in the Wall Street Jungle, it sucks.

You sure have changed your tune on this one... http://gearslutz.com/board/showthread.php3?t=34635

First it's just S.O.P now it's a terrific strategic move by your 'god, guru, can never do anything wrong' Steve Jobs.

[arimaka]

I think that what they will do is port their system so it runs on all Intel machines. That will be a VERY GOOD move I think.

[Johnny B]

Change positions, me? Not really.

BTW, Apple's first Chairman of the Board, Mike Markula, came from Intel.

But at that time, Apple wanted to use Motorola and not Intel. Another one of the founders of Intel and a member of Intel's Board of Directors was also the majority shareholder in a little computer system maker, the CPU they used? Yes, a Zilog Z80.

All these people from all the different companies do business with each other even though they are also competitors with each other, it's all SOP in Slicon Valley.

Steve Jobs or Bill Gates, Intel, Moto, AMD, IBM, who cares? I mean no disrespect to any of these business/partners/competitors as every one of them has produced results that have helped us all...

...but...

we really should all focus on getting to the most important result...

getting that "Killer Sound Quality."

As always, YMMV

[chadly]

Originally Posted by arimaka

I think that what they will do is port their system so it runs on all Intel machines. That will be a VERY GOOD move I think.

will port. . . ? If rumors that I've been hearing for years are true, there already is one. I remember hearing when OS X came out that there was a small team of programmers who worked on getting the code to run on PC. I've always figured it was just rumors, but hearing this I'm thinking that there might have been some truth to it.

[soultrane]

Originally Posted by Johnny B

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Rarely, is the "Wall Street Jungle" right on anything...
Never trust anything you read in the Wall Street Jungle, it sucks.

so, you're saying that 'till it gets printed in "The Nation" or better still, "Weekly Worker" u won't believe?

[Johnny B]

Hmmm, yes, part of my rant above has to do with the lack of quality reporting by that shit rag, The Wall Street Jungle. WMD, anyone? What a load of crap these jerks are willing to print. How about editorials saying that killing off Social Security and having old senior citizens living in the streets and eating out of garbage cans is good for the economy? How about lame ass articles that say shipping jobs overseas to cheap slave wage worker economies is a good thing? How about the idea that it's a good thing to die for oil so a few major oil corporations can make 13 billion in profits and give the oil corp execs excessive salaries and bonuses? How about the Jungle's position to resist all attempts at Corporate Reform Laws? How about the Jungle talking up Enron, World Com, and Health South right before they collasped from massive executive fraud?

If you read the Wall Street Jungle, just make sure you know you are being fed a lot of Bullshit and it's all intended to make you act like a part of the herd of lemmings being directed to walk over the cliff to be slaughtered and give the big boys all your money.

Sure, once in a while the Wall Street Bungle gets something right, but it's rare, mostly you get extremist, right-wing facist propaganda from the Wall Street Jungle.
After being a subscriber for years, I finally got the message and cancelled my subscription, almost evrything you read in the Wall Street Jungle is flat wrong.
But if you like doing the wrong thing, if you like extreme right wing propaganda, if you like advice designed to separate you from your job and your hard-earned money, well be my guest, waste some more money on this rag full of misinformation.

As for Apple's choice of a CPU, I don't care if Apple has IBM and Intel and AMD and Motorola and Sony or Toshiba chips...all at the same time in Apple's product line...

It's the apps that give me my results...not the damn the box! The app is the most important thing, and that app had best give me "Killer Sound Quality."

"Killer Sound Quality," that's what counts!

As always, YMMV.

[ransomRR]

Would an official press release do it for you?


Apple to Use Intel Microprocessors Beginning in 2006

WWDC 2005, SAN FRANCISCO--June 6, 2005--At its Worldwide Developer Conference today, Apple® announced plans to deliver models of its Macintosh® computers using Intel microprocessors by this time next year, and to transition all of its Macs to using Intel microprocessors by the end of 2007. Apple previewed a version of its critically acclaimed operating system, Mac OS® X Tiger, running on an Intel-based Mac® to the over 3,800 developers attending CEO Steve Jobs' keynote address. Apple also announced the availability of a Developer Transition Kit, consisting of an Intel-based Mac development system along with preview versions of Apple's software, which will allow developers to prepare versions of their applications which will run on both PowerPC and Intel-based Macs.

"Our goal is to provide our customers with the best personal computers in the world, and looking ahead Intel has the strongest processor roadmap by far," said Steve Jobs, Apple's CEO. "It's been ten years since our transition to the PowerPC, and we think Intel's technology will help us create the best personal computers for the next ten years."

"We are thrilled to have the world's most innovative personal computer company as a customer," said Paul Otellini, president and CEO of Intel. "Apple helped found the PC industry and throughout the years has been known for fresh ideas and new approaches. We look forward to providing advanced chip technologies, and to collaborating on new initiatives, to help Apple continue to deliver innovative products for years to come."

"We plan to create future versions of Microsoft Office for the Mac that support both PowerPC and Intel processors," said Roz Ho, general manager of Microsoft's Macintosh Business Unit. "We have a strong relationship with Apple and will work closely with them to continue our long tradition of making great applications for a great platform."

"We think this is a really smart move on Apple's part and plan to create future versions of our Creative Suite for Macintosh that support both PowerPC and Intel processors," said Bruce Chizen, CEO of Adobe.

The Developer Transition Kit is available starting today for $999 to all Apple Developer Connection Select and Premier members. Further information for Apple Developer Connection members is available at developer.apple.com. Intel plans to provide industry leading development tools support for Apple later this year, including the Intel C/C++ Compiler for Apple, Intel Fortran Compiler for Apple, Intel Math Kernel Libraries for Apple and Intel Integrated Performance Primitives for Apple.

Intel (www.intel.com http://www.intel.com/> ), the world's largest chip maker, is also a leading manufacturer of computer, networking and communications products.

Apple ignited the personal computer revolution in the 1970s with the Apple II and reinvented the personal computer in the 1980s with the Macintosh. Today, Apple continues to lead the industry in innovation with its award-winning desktop and notebook computers, OS X operating system, and iLife and professional applications. Apple is also spearheading the digital music revolution with its iPod portable music players and iTunes online music store.

[theblue1]

It's official.

[theblue1]

Originally Posted by chadly

will port. . . ? If rumors that I've been hearing for years are true, there already is one. I remember hearing when OS X came out that there was a small team of programmers who worked on getting the code to run on PC. I've always figured it was just rumors, but hearing this I'm thinking that there might have been some truth to it.

According to the news report, OS X on '86 has been in the works for five years.

[Johnny B]

Hmmm, I said on the other thread that Apple would be "processor independent," and then, later today, macrumors reported that in the keynote address Steve Jobs used the exact same words..."processor independent."

Jobs "said that Mac OS X has been living a secret double life for the past five years (see Marklar rumor) and gave a demonstration. The design for Mac OS X has always been 'processor independent' and cross-platform capable by design. The technology to let existing PowerPC applications run on Intel is named Rosetta and performs dynamic translation transparent to users (see QuickTransit from Transitive)."

Still, it's not the box, it's the OS, the apps and the interfaces which have the potential to finally deliver that "Killer Sound Quality."

He or she who can deliver that "Killer Sound Quality" wins!

[vikingdude]

Originally Posted by Johnny B

Jobs "said that Mac OS X has been living a secret double life for the past five years....

Yeah..it's clearly gay

[Johnny B]

It's not gay to cover your ass, and that's what APPLE did.

Apple had to go to "Plan B" because Big Blue could not deliver the goods on time.

[TonyBelmont]

Originally Posted by vikingdude

Yeah..it's clearly gay

Ha Ha Ha...

[A101]

Yeah..it's clearly gay

KCUF you Viking!

[vikingdude]

I'm very tolerant. Whatever Mac OS X's orientation is I respect it.

[Johnny B]

Although very Sexy, I think OSX is really non-sexual and non-discriminatory.
OSX loves everybody, and everybody loves OSX.

OSX is almost like GOD in this way...

not quite...but almost.

[vikingdude]

I thought Steve Jobs was the god in your religion.

[Johnny B]

Nah, he's the wrong sex. In my own little, yet rapidly expanding, religion, which I call "The Gospel According to Johnny B." and
"The One and Only Holy Church of the Free Highway," I have only one male God (guess who that is? You already had a hint).

But as a true blue and dignified religious leader, I've saved room for many a Goddess.

[Henchman]

[Johnny B]

Hench,

Although there's some humor to this clever little post,
I wish you had not done this one, now there will be others who start trashing DELL and MS and PT and everyone else....just more stupid war talk....all in living color pictures.

Everybody should just duck and run for cover.

[vikingdude]

Ha Ha Ha.... good one Hench.

[chadly]

As a user of both major OS's, I think the Hench thing was HILARIOUS!!! I have so many friends that do just that!

You, sir, put a grin on my face today.

[pendejo]

Yeah, that fake ad was fun--a long time ago.

Henchman's battle against all things Apple is the real comic relief.

[vikingdude]

Originally Posted by pendejo

Yeah, that fake ad was fun--a long time ago.

Henchman's battle against all things Apple is the real comic relief.

Wait a minute........dude!........are you saying that ad was fake??