iLok license transfers for PT- anyone with experience?

[princeplanet]

Bought HD system S/H and have the iLok with original account name and password. I already have another iLok that I use for my other PT HD system in another room. Let's see if I got this right, I have ONE account with one user name, but can have multiple iLoks, each with separate passwords? I can move licenses b/n my iloks in my account (but can't copy), right? OK, so how do I get licenses from someone else's account to mine? Is there a fee? How do I pay it? Is there a way around having to pay a fee for every single license? Can I use the iLok key given to me or is it better to purchase a new one? What's the 7 day "grace" period all about?

Is it just me, or is this whole thing way more complicated than it should be??

[kafka]

Here are a couple of bullet points that summarize how it works:

• An account can have multiple iLoks registered to it
• The account has one password. iLoks don't have passwords.
• A license is attached to an account. It is downloaded to an iLok that is also attached to the account
• You can move licenses freely between iLoks registered to the account that holds the license.
• For licenses that support it (some won't), iLok will transfer a license from one account to another for $25/license
• ^^^ This sucks for software that uses multiple licenses ^^^

If someone is selling you their entire iLok with everything on it, you should take into account the transfer fee for the software.

An alternative might be to leave the licenses associated with the old iLok and account, and have them give you the userid and password, which you change afterwards. A potential hangup occurs if you need to use your old licenses and the new ones at the same time. I don't know if you can use two iLoks at the same time.

[princeplanet]

Originally Posted by kafka

Here are a couple of bullet points that summarize how it works:

• An account can have multiple iLoks registered to it
• The account has one password. iLoks don't have passwords.
• A license is attached to an account. It is downloaded to an iLok that is also attached to the account
• You can move licenses freely between iLoks registered to the account that holds the license.
• For licenses that support it (some won't), iLok will transfer a license from one account to another for $25/license
• ^^^ This sucks for software that uses multiple licenses ^^^

If someone is selling you their entire iLok with everything on it, you should take into account the transfer fee for the software.

An alternative might be to leave the licenses associated with the old iLok and account, and have them give you the userid and password, which you change afterwards. A potential hangup occurs if you need to use your old licenses and the new ones at the same time. I don't know if you can use two iLoks at the same time.

Thanks man, it seems I may only need PT 7.3 license to be transferred. This is $25 of course, but will I get the usual digirack plugs as well as the other bundled "bonuses" for that same $25 fee. How do I pay it?

[psycho_monkey]

you handle all the transfers through ilok.com. Log into the account you're transferring from, and transfer to your own account, paying the fee in the process.

you can use multiple iloks on one rig at the same time. right now I've got 2 iloks on my system, registered to different accounts.

you can also transfer an empty ilok from one account to another at no charge.

[quincyg]

the way to transfer multiple licences to a different account for free is:

1)buy a NEW ilok
2)synch it to your account and transfer all assets to it that you are selling
3)click the remove ilok from account button(available for first 7 days only)
4)synch it to the new owners account within 7 days.

Done. costs you the price of the ilok only.

[princeplanet]

Legendary! Thankyou one and all

[psycho_monkey]

Originally Posted by quincyg

the way to transfer multiple licences to a different account for free is:

1)buy a NEW ilok
2)synch it to your account and transfer all assets to it that you are selling
3)click the remove ilok from account button(available for first 7 days only)
4)synch it to the new owners account within 7 days.

Done. costs you the price of the ilok only.

Wow - well done! didn't know that.....

[polybonk]

Anyone tried this?
Does it work or will it wipe the old licenses when you sync it to the new account?

[The MPCist]

Originally Posted by quincyg

the way to transfer multiple licences to a different account for free is:

1)buy a NEW ilok
2)synch it to your account and transfer all assets to it that you are selling
3)click the remove ilok from account button(available for first 7 days only)
4)synch it to the new owners account within 7 days.

Done. costs you the price of the ilok only.

Wow, this is worth looking into!

+1 anyone try this?

[quincyg]

It has worked for me a few times, however it did not work with my waves plug-ins. Waves does not allow transfer of their assets without their permisssion. I hate dfegadwaves.

I just got an email from another gslut asking me to delete this thread. I think it is better to leave it in the hopes that more people can benefit from this info.

[minuno]

Originally Posted by quincyg

the way to transfer multiple licences to a different account for free is:

1)buy a NEW ilok
2)synch it to your account and transfer all assets to it that you are selling
3)click the remove ilok from account button(available for first 7 days only)
4)synch it to the new owners account within 7 days.

Done. costs you the price of the ilok only.

is it possible to have an ilok on two dongles?, as it seems point less transferring it from dongle a - b for back up purposes

[EJWells]

Originally Posted by quincyg

the way to transfer multiple licences to a different account for free is:

1)buy a NEW ilok
2)synch it to your account and transfer all assets to it that you are selling
3)click the remove ilok from account button(available for first 7 days only)
4)synch it to the new owners account within 7 days.

Done. costs you the price of the ilok only.

while the above is true, the 7 days doesn't really matter. After 7 days the iLok syncs permanently to the next account that logs in with it.

That is to say, I could put an asset on a new iLok, remove the iLok from my account, let it sit for a year, then send it to someone, and it will sync to their account

[vfr]

Does this approach work with the new style iLoks also, or has anything changed?

Thanks

[Macky]

Yes... it still works.
iLok Support Center - FAQ
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Although the feature of removing an iLok that contains licenses from an account is not available, there is a seven-day grace period to allow users to sort their iLoks into the proper accounts. After this grace period expires, iLoks are not movable.

Here is how the remove feature works:

• When an iLok is registered to an account for the first time, the date and time are recorded. We use this time-stamp to determine the end of the removal grace period.
• Although removing an iLok disassociates it from that account, the grace period runs continuously from the first registration. Removing an iLok does not affect the licenses currently on the iLok, or stop the grace period clock.
• If an iLok that has been removed is subsequently added to ANY iLok.com account, any remaining time left in the grace period still applies.
• When the grace period ends, an iLok with licenses remains permanently in the account where it is currently registered.
• If the iLok is not registered to an account when the grace period ends, then it will be permanently locked to whichever account it is registered to next.
• Note that Zero Downtime™ is not available for iLoks not currently registered to an iLok.com account.

For example, if you register a new iLok on Monday at 7:00 a.m., its seven-day grace period starts and will end the following Monday at 7:00 a.m. If you remove the iLok the same day, then register it in any account two days later (on Wednesday), the remaining grace period will be five days. It does not matter that the iLok was not registered for one day (Tuesday). The grace period follows the iLok, and is never reset once it is started.

This feature was designed to help users who accidentally register a new iLok to the wrong account, or for people who have several accounts and now find it more convenient to have just one. We recommend one account per individual user, or per studio

[don911]

Originally Posted by quincyg

the way to transfer multiple licences to a different account for free is:

1)buy a NEW ilok
2)synch it to your account and transfer all assets to it that you are selling
3)click the remove ilok from account button(available for first 7 days only)
4)synch it to the new owners account within 7 days.

Done. costs you the price of the ilok only.

Can this be done even if both iLoks are not at the same location? I have mine here, then a friend buys a new iLok in another city but registers it to my account. Can he then move some licenses from my iLok to his even though the iLoks are not at the same place (but both iLoks are registered to my account)? And then when it;s done, I will remove his iLok from my account so he can register it on his.

[Raoul23]

Hi

if i buy a new ilok sync it to my account transfer my PT9HD license to the newly synced ilok. Reject the ilok from my account. Then the new owner has 7 days to register it to their ilok account

Do i have this right?

I also want to try and put all my licenses on one ilok. so i have a whole 7 days to sync iloks to accounts and transfer licenses around before that ilok is stuck with an account.

Hope someone can help im quite new to ilok transfering.

[Macky]

Originally Posted by Raoul23

Hi

if i buy a new ilok sync it to my account transfer my PT9HD license to the newly synced ilok. Reject the ilok from my account. Then the new owner has 7 days to register it to their ilok account

Do i have this right?

I also want to try and put all my licenses on one ilok. so i have a whole 7 days to sync iloks to accounts and transfer licenses around before that ilok is stuck with an account.

Hope someone can help im quite new to ilok transfering.

This is correct. In fact, it will automatically lock itself to the first account that is used, once the 7 day period has expired.


You can swap licenses between iloks that are tied to the same account freely.

its all in the ilok faqs.
http://www.ilok.com/ilok-faq.html

[Raoul23]

Originally Posted by Macky

This is correct. In fact, it will automatically lock itself to the first account that is used, once the 7 day period has expired.


You can swap licenses between iloks that are tied to the same account freely.

its all in the ilok faqs.
http://www.ilok.com/ilok-faq.html

Thanks That's great

[JoFo]

If I want to sell my ilok that has my PT9 license on it with my mbox, why does ilok charge $100 if the new owner wants to register and use this ilok??

is there any way around this?

seems silly to have to buy a new ilok, register it to my account, transfer the licenses, remove the ilok (within 7 days), and then give the new owner that new ilok and my mbox, when I already have these licenses on a ilok I do not need.

yes, no?

[JoFo]

From ilok's website.

"Depending on the limitations on the transference of licenses on the iLok, have us perform a "iLok Transfer: Account Reassignment" which will allow us to transfer an entire iLok with all of its licenses from one user account to another. The price to transfer an iLok is $US100.00 and is subject to approval by the registered owner of the iLok."

$100 for a new owner to register an ilok I'm selling with hardware????

[Raoul23]

I don't understand why you should have to ask permission to transfer a license. When you sell your car you don't have to ring up the garage you brought it from and ask if you can sell it. This just puts people off buying software from that company!