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Old 17th May 2005   #1
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...about saving sessions in Pro Tools LE + URS EQs

So when you save a session in Pro Tools LE, all your plugins are saved the way they're set at the time of the 'save' right?

So I'm mixing this afternoon, and I've got URS A Series Graphics everywhere, and at this point I'm really just touching stuff up since the mix is 'done' (like they're ever done...) and I'm saving every time something's an improvement.

You know how the 'save' function under 'File' is greyed-out if there's been no change since the last save? I noticed today that if I nudge a slider on the URS EQ a few dB's (like from 0.8 to 2.0) the 'save' function would still be greyed-out. If I moved a couple of them, or moved one further, it would be 'selectable' again. I usually save by pressing 'command-S' but every once in a while I'll use the mouse to do it. So I wonder how many times I saved from the keyboard when 'save' really wasn't an option.

I know that to my ears, those 'nudges' make a big difference.

Just wondering...
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I know that to my ears, those 'nudges' make a big difference.

exactly!! the small, 0.5 dB movements of bands can be radical change of sound, on URS graphic

i have downloaded the demo today, and you were right in my topic from 2 weeks ago - the graphic EQs RULE!!!

i'm buying this stuff!! it's so amazing, how it IMPROVES my mixes! i really can achieve WHAT I WANT now, rather than walking around and never really reaching the point. how could i mix music without it? today i mixed 3 songs in ONE day, and i'm happy with the result. i never worked so fast.

and you can also do really weird stuff with it, i mean peaking one band, cutting another, really destroy the sound, i mean change it dramatically - sometimes this is what you need, for example for mults.

and the small changes - really sweetening, add some air, add some punch, add some deep bass, add anything!



okay... it was little off topic... but i got SOOO excited...



back to the story...

it's bad news about it - the inactive SAVE stuff. the solution might be to move a selection (cursor) in session to a new position before SAVING session. when you move cursor the SAVE function always gets active again.

and it's worth sending an email to urs, let them release the bugfix!
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Yeah, so far I've only noticed the URS doing it (since I use one on every track, or bus at least) but now I wonder if it's Pro Tools LE doing it...(going to check to see if other plugins do the same thing).

Yes sir, those URS graphics can totally change the character of something like a snare drum.

I've been trying to make myself use the N Series since I pretty much gravitate towards the A Series. Sometimes I use both on a vocal track.

If you use a mouse, and you don't have a scroll wheel, you gotta get it. It makes using the graphic EQs so much easier. If you option scroll down, there's a jump to plus or minus six or twelve dB and option-click takes you back to zero.

I keep one saved with everything at -6dB as a template, cause there are a few things that I know I'm gonna cut a lot of bands on.
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my first impressions are - api... errr... sorry... A series sounds better. have to work a little more with N series to find a good application for it...

i am a HAPPY user of CONTROL24 (happy, because not using it's analog monitoring section ) and i can FLIP my faders to represent all the bands, and move the up/down like in old analog graphic EQ
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Max,
I've been running into similar issues with PTLE , even though I don't own the URS plugs. It seems that randomly, any of the EDIT page functions aren't available from the drop down unless I close the drop down menu and re-open it. The same thing happens if I'm using the keyboard shortcuts. I first noticed this when I went to undo editing changes via shortcuts and nothing happened. After checking the EDIT menu I noticed this strange behavior.

Maybe it's related buggyness in PTLE. What OS are you on? I'm on Mac, 10.3.8 and PTLE 6.4cs9.

Hhmm

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Tony,

I'm on 6.9/ OS 10.3.9 (yes, unapproved as of yet, I think...but I'm a rebel, man! I take chances!)

I reinstalled my OS because I thought it was getting sluggish, and truth be told, I didn't want to have to go back and look for 10.3.8 plus all the prerequisites...I just clicked on 'Software Update' and went for it.

Somehow, I'm thinking the problem isn't related to the fact that I'm on 10.3.9 if you're running into that stuff...by the way, same here.

I've been having a couple of other weird bugs for the last couple or three months:

1. If I'm laying down a midi track and I'm following the click, sometimes the click will stop even though the transport is still running; then all of a sudden the click will catch up in train-wreck fashion...I actually end up playing through it sometimes if it's only for a beat or two. If I'm tracking to a midi instrument, it can do the same thing.

2. Actually, it's been doing this for a year now; sometimes the 'play' and 'record' functions won't work no matter how you try to engage them; whether you running the length of a selection, starting from a memory location, or from the start. Also, when you try to engage 'play' or 'record', you can see the 'stop' button on the edit window and the transport engage momentarily...at the same time you press the 'play' button. To put it more simply, when I press 'play' the stop button lights as well as the 'play' button...and nothing happens. Nothing short of closing and reopening the session will fix it.

There's something else different about PTLE, though. A while back I installed 6 Gigs of RAM in my dual 2 G5 and I was still having to run my H/W buffer way up to run a good number of plugins (I usually run at 24/44.1 these days) but now it's always at 128 and I don't have to give it a thought. Even with a bunch of UAD plugins, which drag the cpu on PTLE. I also keep BFD ReWired in case I want to layer a drum sound, which is also a big drag on the cpu. Something definitely changed . Anyone else notice PTLE running more efficiently? I'm not imagining this.
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