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6th October 2008, 11:30 AM
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|  Tuning Software best for natural sound without plugin sound sheen....? Hey Guys... So the question is...... What is the best tuning software for workin with vocal groups and making things sound in tune in a natural way (not like TPAIN!)..... I have been using wavestune - which i have been feeling fine with while tuning. However when it comes to playing back what i have done - it feels as though there is a kinda sheen of the wavestune making the vocal sound duller....?  Is auto tune more favourable? or is melodyne the place to go? I use the graphical mode... THANKS GUYS!  peace
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6th October 2008, 01:16 PM
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| In the 'tuning tunnel' are we.....lol ? Enjoy! And pop by for a beverage sometime when you're allowed away from the Mac...... 
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6th October 2008, 01:47 PM
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| For anyone looking for a tuning plug at the moment, only Melodyne should be recommended. If you buy the plug now you qualify for a free upgrade to Melodyne 2, which has the ability to correct individual notes in polyphonic recordings. Watch the vid. celemony_ :: News
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6th October 2008, 02:28 PM
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6th October 2008, 02:44 PM
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| I have AT Evo and Waves Tune and have used Melodyne (but am not fluent at it). Waves Tune AND AT can 'dull' or 'augment' the sound a bit when you listen closely, but if you are going for 'natural'-sounding results, it is my humble opinion that Waves Tune sounds more natural still. You should try AT Evo and Melodyne too, but it is my understanding that all tuning plugs leave a bit of the sound of the plugin-- almost a 'sheen' of sorts -- behind. Again I don't have a lot of experience with Melodyne and I do know that the learning curve for good results with it is steeper than for the others.
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6th October 2008, 03:17 PM
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| Melodyne dulls the sound noticeably for me - I can't use it on stacks of vocals, they end up sounding very deficient in high-mids. Doesn't seem to bother some people. The new version of autotune is pretty good. But mainly it's down to the skill of the operator - don't expect to be an expert overnight! |
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6th October 2008, 10:22 PM
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| Melodyne is the best I've used...but will still leave artifacts if not used with care...as always, minimum possible use is best. |
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6th October 2008, 10:57 PM
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|  Thanks Guys! Thanks for your input.. We have waves tune and new autotune is on it its way and maybe well end up gettin melodyne as well.... I think well give autotune evo a go and if its not doin it to my liking, move back to waves tune! and like you say its more than the plugin - its also down to the operator - and im forging my way through... One again THANKS! oh and Mr KARLOFF a beer sounds good! Soon my man soon! peace
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7th October 2008, 12:48 AM
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7th October 2008, 03:55 AM
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| i use autotune and waves both. i like the overall sound of waves a bit more and prefer it for graphical editing, but i like autotune when i need to throw something on and dial it in superfast in real time. both work extremely well with the right tweaking. again... i lean a bit towards the "sound" of waves overall. for stacked parts, try alternating between tune and autotune and that might help minimize the effect of dulling your vocal stack. or, you could just get people to practice the part until they can actually sing it..
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7th October 2008, 04:00 AM
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| have you tried automating the bypass status of the tuning plug - only have it operate when things are out of tune ? |
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7th October 2008, 08:26 AM
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7th October 2008, 08:31 AM
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7th October 2008, 08:35 AM
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what bout doin that then printing the part? that sounds like a plan... however sometime tune is necessary on the whole phrase or line!
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7th October 2008, 08:46 AM
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| Another Melodyne fan here. I agree with the earlier comments that it takes a while to master. Sometimes I chop out the "pitchy" parts and then put 'em on a separate track. Then just tune that. James
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7th October 2008, 09:22 AM
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| melodyne is great on most vocals, however it doesn't do so well on sibilants ( or any inharmonic stuff ) I often end up cutting all the original ( untuned ) esses back into the melodyned vocal to avoid robot esses. |
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7th October 2008, 09:44 AM
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| Hey beastboy, I can see you
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7th October 2008, 09:57 AM
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| The way I see it Melodyn adds artifacts and is easiest to use. An engineer I respect told me he hasn't had the problem. I'm thinking that my problem might be that I'm using the standalone not the rtas version. Waves Tune seems the most transparent although will still add artifacts. I've used it to really flatten pop vocals and its performed very well. Auto-Tune is in the middle. Could be considered to be easiest to use....it has an AUTO mode. But by far the clumsiest and biggest learning curve in graphical mode. But this plug-in sounds good when used correctly.
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7th October 2008, 10:03 AM
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what i do on a vox, i create a new track and copy all the parts i want to correct on that track and then use the different tools to see which gives the best results. i don't tune everything; those days are over | |
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7th October 2008, 10:33 AM
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| Elastic Audio from Magix is a good one for voices, but... it's in Samplitude Samplitude, Sequoia, Sam for Rent JM |
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7th October 2008, 10:48 AM
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| just have a great performance make sure person does its job cuz theres no such a program that makes vocal sound with poor quality Melodyne and auto tune make audio loose quality try it ur self. |
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8th October 2008, 01:12 PM
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| New working method for now... First timing... Then overall tuning.... (subtle autotuning) Then tuning graphically on detailed notes...(the bugger!) BOSCH - JOB DONE!
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8th October 2008, 01:20 PM
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what is that - one of you terms of endearment? ;) yeah its after that it gets tricky... LOL!
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8th October 2008, 02:11 PM
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| Not so much tricky, but a little subjective perhaps......sup?
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