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Old 5th May 2005, 04:31 PM   #1
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Acoustic guitar sim Plug-in?

I'm mixing a live show that has the dreaded direct acoustic guitar sound on a couple of tracks.
I'm only making so much progress with EQ alone.
Any suggestions to make an acousic pickup sound a little more like a microphone?
There must be an acoustic sim plugin out there. right?
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Old 5th May 2005, 05:34 PM   #2
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I haven't seen a plug that does this but saw Pat Dinizio of the Smithereens playing a Strat that had a special pickup that had a sampled acoustic sound, it was unbelievably realistic. Certainly sounded better than most acoustic pickups. I didn't ask him where he got it, but you might ask him at pat@patdinizio.com.
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Old 6th May 2005, 02:12 AM   #3
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Thanks Hud.
That's most likely the Line-6 guitar I'd imagine.
It does have a very nice acoustic sound.

Unfortunately this particular live show is already recorded and I've been hired to mix this thing.
The acoustic was recorded with the built in pickup through a DI.
I guess I'm going to live with it the best I can.
EQ is not really helping much.
I hate acoustic pickups.
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Old 6th May 2005, 02:26 AM   #4
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anything with a tube usually helps that d.i. sound.... it's almost as if it's too fast....
i would try recording it again to another track - either through some tube pre/ e.q./ comp or anything
analog - the bad d.i. / digital combo is particularly nasty. i would even try dumping
it to cassette and flying it back in or reamping it into a tube guitar amp played
somewhat quietly with a bit of low end and the nicest mic you have in front of the amp

be well
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Old 6th May 2005, 11:37 AM   #5
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I doubt he can re record if it was a "live show" take. He has to do what he can with what is already there.

This may sound dumb, but why not try mic mod if ya have it. It may sound crud, but then again it may change it enuff to stop irritating you.....e.

I guess doing some ext procesing could help. Maybe dup the track and doing some excessive stuff to it, and try n blend in with the original.

Maybe feed it thru a cab and re-mic it.

Dunno, just a suggestion.
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Old 6th May 2005, 06:10 PM   #6
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Really good suggestion.
Antares mic mod might help.
I'll give it a shot, and the cab idea.
I might try a really small space convolution verb too.
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Boss makes a pedal called the AC-2 Acoustic Simulator - http://www.bossus.com/index.asp?pg=1&tmp=17

Playing through this pedal sounds pretty good. I'm sure you could run the signal out into this pedal and then record it back in (or hook it up in real-time to your daw and use it as an insert effect if you've got Nuendo 3 or PT|HD).
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Old 7th May 2005, 12:33 AM   #8
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Thanks!
I remembered seeing that Boss pedal a while back, and I was wondering if it might help in this situation.
Getting the track down to stompbox level and back in cleanly usually isn't very easy, but it might work great.
Maybe Boss should make a plugin version of this thing!
They'd probably sell about 20 of them.

Thanks for all the great suggestions.
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The Yamaha AG pedal is very cool, too.
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