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Old 30th August 2008, 04:59 PM   #1
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Exclamation Samplitude 10.1 +Ivory Pitch Problem

Hello!
I'm using the new Samplitude 10.1 trying to decide if I should move over from Sonar. So far I am liking it a lot however I have one major problem.

When I load up Ivory, the pitch is high by about 1 and 1/2 steps.
IOW I play middle C but I get Eb.

I have the MIDI transpose set at 0 in the track pane and Ivory is not transposed.
Additionally the same, IOW, pre-sets for Ivory do the same thing.

Ivory works fine as standalone or on Sonar or Reaper.

I am NOT a MIDI person but more of an Audio/VST user so I am baffled.
The online doc doesn't seem to have an answer unless I missed it.

I can of course force the transpose down using the track MIDI transpose setting but I am wonder why this is off to begin with?

Anyone?
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Old 30th August 2008, 05:01 PM   #2
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samplitude for midi (other than midi sync) is crazy. great for audio but not set up for vsti's well enough.
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Old 30th August 2008, 05:17 PM   #3
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samplitude for midi (other than midi sync) is crazy. great for audio but not set up for vsti's well enough.
So I have read, but like I said I'm mostly an audio/VST person and essentially use the DAW as a giant tape machine (I'm old school) so I don't get into the finer points of MIDI which is why I am baffled.

IOW it's quicker for me to punch in punch out than sit and move notes around.

This is a showstopper though, but I suspect I am missing something simple that Samplitude does and that I don't know about.
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Old 30th August 2008, 05:21 PM   #4
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for audio/mixing it's great. object editing is superior to most. Been a user since it was at 5.1

Now I use it only as a mixdown rig at 96khz thru a HEDD and of course to burn audio CDs.
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Old 30th August 2008, 05:57 PM   #5
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for audio/mixing it's great. object editing is superior to most. Been a user since it was at 5.1

Now I use it only as a mixdown rig at 96khz thru a HEDD and of course to burn audio CDs.
Agreed!

All of a sudden it is now working !!

The only thing I did was listen to some Internet radio stream while Samp was up and I was poking around and when I went back to Samp, the pitch was correct.

I am wondering if it was some kind of audio sample rate confusion that somehow got reset to normal by running another audio program?

Note: I was only running Samplitude by itself when this first started.
Running the Internet audio stream in VLC FIXED the plroblem.

I did a clean reboot, started a new VIP and now it seems to be working fine so I suspect I might not have been MIDI all along but audio?
Sound reasonable?

I run a Delta-66 at 44.100 and 128 samples with rate locked to internal clock and 'Rate Locked and Rest When Idle' UNchecked.

BTW I have perfect pitch so when something like this happens it screws up my internal mechanism something awful.
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Old 31st August 2008, 06:04 AM   #6
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Agreed!

All of a sudden it is now working !!

The only thing I did was listen to some Internet radio stream while Samp was up and I was poking around and when I went back to Samp, the pitch was correct.

I am wondering if it was some kind of audio sample rate confusion that somehow got reset to normal by running another audio program?

Note: I was only running Samplitude by itself when this first started.
Running the Internet audio stream in VLC FIXED the plroblem.

I did a clean reboot, started a new VIP and now it seems to be working fine so I suspect I might not have been MIDI all along but audio?
Sound reasonable?

I run a Delta-66 at 44.100 and 128 samples with rate locked to internal clock and 'Rate Locked and Rest When Idle' UNchecked.

BTW I have perfect pitch so when something like this happens it screws up my internal mechanism something awful.
First, I'm jealous that you have perfect pitch. I'm hanging in there with pretty good relative pitch.

Anyways, I've noticed that some VST's get 'stuck' in some other frequency when loaded in apps that do not really handle float, or Samplitude's hybrid engine. Sometimes adjusting your ASIO buffer slightly will 'reset' it, and/or flipping between different monitoring modes will stabilize it.

I personally have never had problems with sample rates suddenly changing.

Glad that VLC fixed your situation (soundcard driver got stuck?).

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