The slowed down tape machine effect.

[NyquistFilter]

I'm trying to figure out how to get that special effect I've heard on a few records. I hear it used quiet often on a pre-chorus going into a chorus. For instance the whole band will hit a note together and and they will make it sound like when you hit stop on a tape machine and everything slows down, the pitch goes really low and everything fades out. It's pretty hard to describe but I will try to post an example here later. I know theres gotta be some way that people are doing this digitally and I was curious if any of you guys could help me out. It's a cool effect I would like to use.

[drew]

Digidesign's D-Fi bundle includes a plug called Vari Fi that does this. there may be others as well.

[rainsinvelvet]

Originally Posted by drew

Digidesign's D-Fi bundle includes a plug called Vari Fi that does this. there may be others as well.

Yup, that one works well!

ERic

[NyquistFilter]

Thanks, I looked at those plug ins, pretty cool. Anybody know of any others? Preferably audio unit for Logic? I guess worst case scenario is I can get the vari fi and import audio files to and back from pro tools to do it.

[Shan]

Creating better tape stops and turnarounds. A 'how to' guide by Rhett Lawrence. Scroll down to the bottom of the article.

Shane

[pounce]

pitch n time will do this well. it's one of my favorite plug ins. totally great.

[thenoodle]

Hey, this question comes up a lot all of a sudden!

In fact, I just heard the effect on a country hit (of all things)...The end of that "Nothin' To Lose" Josh Gracin thing.

And once again, the plug-in answer is......"Tapestop".

As an alternative....
I actually have a sample snip that I made myself in the early 80's from putting a real 16 track into edit/spool, hand spinning the reels and then abruptly stopping them. I catptured the short sample and ended up using that on stuff for a few years. It's easy to make. Just another alternative for those who have real-reels.

[Yutaka]

I think a lot of guys used vari-speed in soundhack for this before plug-in stuff became popular. I've done this few times myself, and it worked pretty well. It's an offline process with hit & miss, but fun process with a bunch of unexpected results.

If you can do it with a plug-in, though, it's probably not really a special idea anymore....

[kittonian]

Just curious if anyone knows of a VST solution for this that will run at 96k?

[NyquistFilter]

Originally Posted by kittonian

Just curious if anyone knows of a VST solution for this that will run at 96k?

I found out about a plug in called "tapestop" it is vst for the pc only. If you are on a pc then pm me and I'll email it to you. It is worthless to me because I'm on a mac.

[63 Jaguar]

I have used mainly Pitchscraper for this effect (VST wrapped into AU). I love Pitchscraper.

I also did this using a quick bounce of the track, and then through Turntablist, bounce again and back into the original song. that's sort of offline though, and quite a hassle.

Thaddeus Corea.
http://jaguarstudio.com

[NyquistFilter]

Originally Posted by 63 Jaguar

I have used mainly Pitchscraper for this effect (VST wrapped into AU). I love Pitchscraper.

I also did this using a quick bounce of the track, and then through Turntablist, bounce again and back into the original song. that's sort of offline though, and quite a hassle.

Thaddeus Corea.
http://jaguarstudio.com

Do you know where I can find this pitchscraper plug in?

[jho]

Supatriga.

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[kittonian]

Originally Posted by NyquistFilter

I found out about a plug in called "tapestop" it is vst for the pc only. If you are on a pc then pm me and I'll email it to you. It is worthless to me because I'm on a mac.

Thanks for the offer. I appreciate it. I am also on a Mac running Nuendo 3 on a dual 2.5 G5. It would be great if we could find a plug-in that would allow us to manually adjust how fast or slow the track plays back in realtime with automation capabilities.

I'm working on a song right now where the intro requires this and I can achieve it manually using the knobs on a Fender 65 Super Reverb with a Big Muff but it would be great to be able to just record it in and play with it during mix time instead of being stuck with whatever the best take comes out to be trying to adjust everything on the spot.

The goal is to be able to slow it down to change both the pitch and the speed so that it sounds like it's slowing to a stop and then maintaining the lowered pitch at the end which will then in turn be faded.

[jho]

Originally Posted by kittonian

Thanks for the offer. I appreciate it. I am also on a Mac running Nuendo 3 on a dual 2.5 G5. It would be great if we could find a plug-in that would allow us to manually adjust how fast or slow the track plays back in realtime with automation capabilities.

I'm working on a song right now where the intro requires this and I can achieve it manually using the knobs on a Fender 65 Super Reverb with a Big Muff but it would be great to be able to just record it in and play with it during mix time instead of being stuck with whatever the best take comes out to be trying to adjust everything on the spot.

The goal is to be able to slow it down to change both the pitch and the speed so that it sounds like it's slowing to a stop and then maintaining the lowered pitch at the end which will then in turn be faded.

Try SPEED....but I think it's only RTAS. You could slam the files, do your x-fades and be done though...

[Agli]

Originally Posted by jho

Try SPEED....but I think it's only RTAS. You could slam the files, do your x-fades and be done though...

try weed

[jho]

Originally Posted by Agli

try weed

hang on....

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...(hmmphhffffff....cough cough)

Ok !

[Lagerfeldt]

This is an easy trick do to. I usually do it without resorting to any plugins of that kind.

Simply do a bounce of that part of the track, place it in a sampler (I use EXS24 in Logic). Playback via MIDI and use the pitch wheel (or draw it using hyperdraw/automation) to slow it down (to get the full 2 octaves you should start playback at pitch +12 but not actually transposed). It may be necessary to do a few automations (reverb bypass etc.) at the playback start point and stop point.

That would take about 3-4 minutes to do all in all and enables excellent results without any artifacts or problems or resorting to new plugins.

[Stacks]

was just looking for this effect...

KVR: TbT Tapestop - Virtual Effect

Works great!!

[trippy]

Originally Posted by kittonian

Thanks for the offer. I appreciate it. I am also on a Mac running Nuendo 3 on a dual 2.5 G5. It would be great if we could find a plug-in that would allow us to manually adjust how fast or slow the track plays back in realtime with automation capabilities.

I'm working on a song right now where the intro requires this and I can achieve it manually using the knobs on a Fender 65 Super Reverb with a Big Muff but it would be great to be able to just record it in and play with it during mix time instead of being stuck with whatever the best take comes out to be trying to adjust everything on the spot.

The goal is to be able to slow it down to change both the pitch and the speed so that it sounds like it's slowing to a stop and then maintaining the lowered pitch at the end which will then in turn be faded.

I'm very curious how you are able to obtain this effect with just a Super Reverb and a Big Muff...

[space2012]

Originally Posted by NyquistFilter

I'm trying to figure out how to get that special effect I've heard on a few records. I hear it used quiet often on a pre-chorus going into a chorus. For instance the whole band will hit a note together and and they will make it sound like when you hit stop on a tape machine and everything slows down, the pitch goes really low and everything fades out. It's pretty hard to describe but I will try to post an example here later. I know theres gotta be some way that people are doing this digitally and I was curious if any of you guys could help me out. It's a cool effect I would like to use.

thats a turntable stop, common since Technics SL-1200 mk2 introduced in 1979, you had to open the turntable to graduate the break.
new turntables like Stanton T.120 have the calibration outside the turntable, easy for users. other brans too.

Also some profesional cd players have it, since Denon 2500f,
also some softwares have it, like Adobe Audition, or even the older Cool Edit Pro 2.1

[nadumr]

Originally Posted by Stacks

was just looking for this effect...

KVR: TbT Tapestop - Virtual Effect

Works great!!

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