Jump to Pentium 4 ???

Gradation · 21st February 2005, 03:50 PM

Hey guys,

I'm finding that my AMD Thunderbird isn't keeping pace with some of the newer software plugs requiring SSE compatibility. Is there a patch available to facilitate this ... or am I looking at having to completely upgrade? If upgrading is my only option, do I stick with AMD or jump over to Pentium 4? Will my IWill motherboard play nice with the P4 or am I looking at having to replace that too?

Thanks!

gramps · 21st February 2005, 08:35 PM

the amd 64bit will give you a higher plugin count than a P4 due to higher math capabilities.

you will have to change your mobo if you switch to a p4; also if you go 64 bit amd.

g

Hammer v2 · 21st February 2005, 11:04 PM

If you really wnat to be a cheapskate, an Athlon XP or a sempron should drop into your motherboard and give you a bit of a boost (Check with your MBrd manufacturer first tho). However Gramps is right The athlon 64 ROCKS for audio...if you can swing it it is definately worth it.

gramps · 23rd February 2005, 08:19 AM

either platform will work though the new 64bit amd's will have the edge on plugin couints. both will require new mobos.

g

gramps · 23rd February 2005, 08:22 AM

well ok then, up until 10 seconds ago my first reply didn't show up here from yesterdays post. or...i'm just old and repetitive.

g

well ok then, up until 10 seconds ago my first reply didn't show up here from yesterdays post. or...i'm just old and repetitive.
g

well ok then, up until 10 seconds ago my first reply didn't show up here from yesterdays post. or...i'm just old and repetitive.
g

manning1 · 23rd February 2005, 12:28 PM

this computer engr thinks amd semprons and particularly amd 64's rock. however be aware of one thing....
ive seen people buy amd 64 - and, due to the price of the processor try and save money on the power supply.
be aware there are clone power supplies around that look cheap but might not meet engineering rated power specs.
ive seen this happen. in summary - get a nice beefy power supply
that will also handle your future needs should you add peripherals to the basic system in the future.
another tip - if using a pci slot based sound card dont put anything in the pci slots EXCEPT the sound card.
use 8mb cache hard drives. and 512 ram minimum.peace.

Gradation · 9th March 2005, 03:04 AM

Thanks guys!

Can I get some additional RAM, Hard Drive speed and other pointers to consider when moving into a newer system these days. I'm on a budget, but would still like to make room for contemporary technology growth.

Much appreciated!

vikingdude · 9th March 2005, 07:37 AM

AMDs are really cool.

You might want to consider an AMD Opteron. You get two CPUs in one and it's still 64 bit, very reasonable price too.

If you're running Cubase Check this site for some very helpful benchmarks.

http://www.carillondirect.com/clnwe....jsp?country=UK

Teacher · 9th March 2005, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manning1

another tip - if using a pci slot based sound card dont put anything in the pci slots EXCEPT the sound card.

I got 2 UADs with my lynxtwo works like a charm

ASUS K8V, Athlon 64, XP Pro

Gradation · 9th March 2005, 03:11 PM

Thanks again, everyone!

vikingdude · 10th March 2005, 07:54 AM

This link should work.

You might want to consider an AMD Opteron. You get two CPUs in one and it's still 64 bit, very reasonable price too.

If you're running Cubase Check this site for some very helpful benchmarks.

http://tinyurl.com/5cv5m

vikingdude · 10th March 2005, 08:24 AM

Information about the Opteron processor and it's features from AMDs website.

http://tinyurl.com/3ml3q

manning1 · 10th March 2005, 12:10 PM

teacher. re uad1 cards.
when i made that comment about pci slots i'm referring to OTHER non audio cards. particularly tv tuner cards, network cards etc etc.
also you are an EXPERIENCED user who has obviously done his research/testing
carefully before buying like i do. but a lot dont do such carefull testing/research and therefore often encounter problems. for example the uad1 cards work flawlessly in your set up but with a different user and different motherboard and pc configuration, who knows ? which is why you see so many posts about "my audio tracks are s

ering on playback etc....". maybe i should have worded it dont put anything else in pci slots unless its related to the core task at hand of audio production. peace.

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21st February 2005, 03:50 PM	#1
Gradation Gear Head Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 69	Jump to Pentium 4 ??? Hey guys, I'm finding that my AMD Thunderbird isn't keeping pace with some of the newer software plugs requiring SSE compatibility. Is there a patch available to facilitate this ... or am I looking at having to completely upgrade? If upgrading is my only option, do I stick with AMD or jump over to Pentium 4? Will my IWill motherboard play nice with the P4 or am I looking at having to replace that too? Thanks!

21st February 2005, 11:04 PM	#3
Hammer v2 Gear nut Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Vietnam!!! Posts: 130	If you really wnat to be a cheapskate, an Athlon XP or a sempron should drop into your motherboard and give you a bit of a boost (Check with your MBrd manufacturer first tho). However Gramps is right The athlon 64 ROCKS for audio...if you can swing it it is definately worth it. __________________ Some days we are the flies; some days we are the windscreen.

10th March 2005, 12:10 PM	#13
manning1 Lives for gear Join Date: May 2004 Location: canada Posts: 3,028	teacher. re uad1 cards. when i made that comment about pci slots i'm referring to OTHER non audio cards. particularly tv tuner cards, network cards etc etc. also you are an EXPERIENCED user who has obviously done his research/testing carefully before buying like i do. but a lot dont do such carefull testing/research and therefore often encounter problems. for example the uad1 cards work flawlessly in your set up but with a different user and different motherboard and pc configuration, who knows ? which is why you see so many posts about "my audio tracks are sering on playback etc....". maybe i should have worded it dont put anything else in pci slots unless its related to the core task at hand of audio production. peace.

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21st February 2005, 08:35 PM	#2
gramps Gear nut Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 114	the amd 64bit will give you a higher plugin count than a P4 due to higher math capabilities. you will have to change your mobo if you switch to a p4; also if you go 64 bit amd. g

23rd February 2005, 08:19 AM	#4
gramps Gear nut Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 114	either platform will work though the new 64bit amd's will have the edge on plugin couints. both will require new mobos. g

23rd February 2005, 08:22 AM	#5
gramps Gear nut Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 114	well ok then, up until 10 seconds ago my first reply didn't show up here from yesterdays post. or...i'm just old and repetitive. g well ok then, up until 10 seconds ago my first reply didn't show up here from yesterdays post. or...i'm just old and repetitive. g well ok then, up until 10 seconds ago my first reply didn't show up here from yesterdays post. or...i'm just old and repetitive. g

23rd February 2005, 12:28 PM	#6
manning1 Lives for gear Join Date: May 2004 Location: canada Posts: 3,028	this computer engr thinks amd semprons and particularly amd 64's rock. however be aware of one thing.... ive seen people buy amd 64 - and, due to the price of the processor try and save money on the power supply. be aware there are clone power supplies around that look cheap but might not meet engineering rated power specs. ive seen this happen. in summary - get a nice beefy power supply that will also handle your future needs should you add peripherals to the basic system in the future. another tip - if using a pci slot based sound card dont put anything in the pci slots EXCEPT the sound card. use 8mb cache hard drives. and 512 ram minimum.peace.

9th March 2005, 03:04 AM	#7
Gradation Gear Head Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 69	Thanks guys! Can I get some additional RAM, Hard Drive speed and other pointers to consider when moving into a newer system these days. I'm on a budget, but would still like to make room for contemporary technology growth. Much appreciated!

9th March 2005, 07:37 AM	#8
vikingdude Gear nut Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Los Angeles / Denmark Posts: 80	AMDs are really cool. You might want to consider an AMD Opteron. You get two CPUs in one and it's still 64 bit, very reasonable price too. If you're running Cubase Check this site for some very helpful benchmarks. http://www.carillondirect.com/clnwe....jsp?country=UK

9th March 2005, 03:11 PM	#10
Gradation Gear Head Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 69	Thanks again, everyone!

10th March 2005, 07:54 AM	#11
vikingdude Gear nut Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Los Angeles / Denmark Posts: 80	This link should work. You might want to consider an AMD Opteron. You get two CPUs in one and it's still 64 bit, very reasonable price too. If you're running Cubase Check this site for some very helpful benchmarks. http://tinyurl.com/5cv5m

10th March 2005, 08:24 AM	#12
vikingdude Gear nut Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Los Angeles / Denmark Posts: 80	Information about the Opteron processor and it's features from AMDs website. http://tinyurl.com/3ml3q