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Soundreplacer Alternative

Is there any programs out there that do what soundreplacer does for Digital Performer,and or pro tools le?(It's my understanding soundreplacer is only for TDM/HD)
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Re: Soundreplacer Alternative

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Is there any programs out there that do what soundreplacer does for Digital Performer,and or pro tools le?(It's my understanding soundreplacer is only for TDM/HD)
Mucho thanks in advance.
Drumagog and APtrigga 2.
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Sound Replacer works for LE.
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Thanks for the info.It seems drum a gog,works on PC only.(I use a mac) I can't find any info on APtrigga 2.Does it work on mac,on digital performer,on pro tools Le? Does it work on os9 and osX?
Thanks again for any info.
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(I use a mac) I can't find any info on APtrigga 2.Does it work on mac,on digital performer,on pro tools Le? Does it work on os9 and osX?
Thanks again for any info.
http://www.apulsoft.ch

It's a VST , I'm not sure about DP, but...

I'm using on OSX with PT. You'll need Fxpansion's VST/RTAS wrapper. Make sure it's wrapper version 1.06 or higher ( I think that's the version number..)

Aptrigga2 is a great program and up to version 2.2 now. Free upgrades, etc. I've all but quit using Soundreplacer.

Aptrigga2 was only $39 bucks when i bought it. Fxpansion wrapper is $99.
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Sound Replacer works for LE.
Have you used it on LE,as everyone I've talked to,and the digi website say otherwise.I'm hopeing that you are the correct one.(this would make my life a lot easier) Thanks.
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Have you used it on LE,as everyone I've talked to,and the digi website say otherwise.I'm hopeing that you are the correct one.(this would make my life a lot easier) Thanks.

I use Soundreplacer on my Le system all the time...
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The beauty of Aptrigga is you can sit there and audition the samples real-time while the track is playing. And it's got a lot of slick features like sample stacking, velocity based, etc.
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The beauty of Aptrigga is you can sit there and audition the samples real-time while the track is playing. And it's got a lot of slick features like sample stacking, velocity based, etc.
This sounds dope! I'm gonna check it! Thanks.
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I use Soundreplacer on my Le system all the time...
(In Mr.Burns voice) "EXCELLANT"...

Thank you!
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Have you used it on LE,as everyone I've talked to,and the digi website say otherwise.I'm hopeing that you are the correct one.(this would make my life a lot easier) Thanks.
It works equally on both LE and HD.
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Aptrigga 2 is actually a native AU as well. It's great I think. I find it to be a lot more exact than anything else I've tried including Sound Replacer and Logics Audio to Score. Current version supports aif,wav,and SD2.
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I have no idea why Digi hasn't removed the Peak Align function from SoundReplacer as it does exactly the oposite of what it's supposed to do. It seems like such an axiom to disable this fuction anyway.
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Supposedly Digi will not grant the developer of ApTrigga permission to port to RTAS. Very sad.

I use it with the wrapper and it works fine, but I can't stand rappers.
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I downloaded the apTrigga2,and I'm diggin it. Thanks for the help.
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I just wish someone would make a plug to do audio to MIDI. I just got the BFD drum module and it has embeded multichannel samples that can't be played except via MIDI. My only option at this point is to export my drum tracks to something like Logic or DP (BOTH have this functionality) and convert to MIDI then import the MIDI files BACK to PT's. What a PITA!

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Supposedly Digi will not grant the developer of ApTrigga permission to port to RTAS. Very sad.

I use it with the wrapper and it works fine, but I can't stand rappers.
What exactly is a wrapper? Is it a hassle?

I've been using Sound Replacer LE for quite a while now, and would like to look into trying this apTrigga2.
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What exactly is a wrapper? Is it a hassle?

I've been using Sound Replacer LE for quite a while now, and would like to look into trying this apTrigga2.
It's not really a huge hassle...but does add a step, probably more memory usage (guessing), and costs $100 bucks...

But it works great. No issues.

With Aptrigga2 the Fxpansion VST to RTAS wrapper must be version 1.06 *I think* (it's something with a 6 in it). The stock version they were offering by purchase online was 1.05 or something and did not work right w/Aptrigga. I had to email fxpansion and ask for the newer beta version.
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I just wish someone would make a plug to do audio to MIDI. I just got the BFD drum module and it has embeded multichannel samples that can't be played except via MIDI. My only option at this point is to export my drum tracks to something like Logic or DP (BOTH have this functionality) and convert to MIDI then import the MIDI files BACK to PT's. What a PITA!

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Doesn't drumagog trigger midi?
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Doesn't drumagog trigger midi?
I think Drumagog is DirectX only. Doesn't help us Protoolers (unless FXpansion has a directX-RTAS wrapper).

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I have HD2 and havent sprung for Sound Replacer yet so i use Drumagog. I export the file from PT that I want to fix, open Wavelab, replace the sound, then bring it back into ProTools.....Kind of a pain....but since I already own Drumagog I cant justify buying SR.....

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I just wish someone would make a plug to do audio to MIDI. I just got the BFD drum module and it has embeded multichannel samples that can't be played except via MIDI. My only option at this point is to export my drum tracks to something like Logic or DP (BOTH have this functionality) and convert to MIDI then import the MIDI files BACK to PT's. What a PITA!

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Audio to Midi plug:

http://www.smartelectronix.com/~koen/KTDrumTrigger/
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Drumagog is Direct X only. I still use it for my Pro Tools LE sessions though. It IS a pain in the ass but... I bring the files into Sound Forge and do my replacing there then... bring those back into PT. I like Drumagog enough over Sound Replacer that it's worth it to me.
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I suppose this with the FXPansion RTAS wrapper would be an option.

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Looked at the drumagog site yesterday and they are about to release a version4. Check out the forum. It is also going to be RTAS! I still do not understand why Digi have not updated their soundreplacer. They should have made midi a part of it and ditched the peak align.

http://www.drumagog.com/forum/viewre...bid=4&tid=1740
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I don't know how anybody can stand to use soundreplacer. Aptrigga is a hundred times better than it. Haven't you guys noticed that when you use soundreplacer none of the hits line up? Zoom in and you will see that nothing lines up... that wouldn't be a problem if it were consistant within the track... but one hit will be 4 samples off and the next hit will be 15 samples off. To me that isn't exactly soundreplaceing. It's randomly placing hits about where the original hit was.

Aptrigga is always on... dead on... sample accurate. Of course the whole track has to be moved around 10 samples but it is consitant throughout the track. I have used it in PT LE and HD using a vst wrapper and in Digital Performer as an AU. Everything about Aptrigga kills sound replacer.

Plus... isn't sound replacer like $500 and Aptrigga like $40.

When is Digidesign gonna get a clue?

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Plus... isn't sound replacer like $500 and Aptrigga like $40.

When is Digidesign gonna get a clue?

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Probably why Aptrigga can't get a license to make a RTAS version! Does it produce midi notes at all?
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Looked at the drumagog site yesterday and they are about to release a version4.
They have been promising Drumagog for Mac for over a year - I'll believe it when I see it.
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I find it so much easier to just get into a rhythm tabbing to transient, cursor down, paste sample, cursor up, tab again and so on. I've got sound replacer and it can be ok, but only if you're totally replacing a sound rather than blending, becuause everyone else has said, it's a bit wierd with where it puts the triggers. Equally. if there's any spill, it starts putting triggers all over the place. I can never understand the logic behind it, when you have a bloody great peak which wont trigger and a miniscule bump which wont 'not'...

The tabbing to transient method works, and I can ignore ghosts and quieter hits where I want a different sample. It takes a little longer sure, but I find sound replacer pretty irritating: all that choosing samples from the menu, zooming in zooming out etc etc. I'd rather just get on with it. Also, it 'feels' right doing it manually.

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