LogicPro 7 & G5 dual 2ghz?

[Roger Starr]

Just curious about experience on stability, performance, bugs etc. by those who have it?

Roger

[headz]

logic on G5 is generally a good combo concerning performance but to be honest Logic7 stability is way worse than 6.4.3 - even with all plugs passing AU validation it crashes out of the blue very often.
This happens especially more often with ext. midi devices involved.

it feels very much logic7 was tossed out of the door bit too early - the crashlogs show that 30% of crashes are resulting from validated plugs involverd (all latest available versions) and 70% of the crashlogs show some logic shared libraries are causing those crashes (hangs with midi clock send during loop playback, etc.)

all people i know using logic7 have quite similar
problems, many switched back to 6.4.3 after some weeks with logic7 and will wait untill a new update is available.
Cause it's a PITA try finishing productions with about 4-10 crashes a day...dfegad

when stability improves the combo will allow a good workflow though as Logic7 is cool featurewise...but till then no need to hurry with getting logic7 ...

[DrDeltaM]

Logic 7 is rocksolid here on my dual 2Ghz G5.
Only extra plugins i've installed are the URS A and N AU plugs and the TC 'Abandonware' Native Bundle (which Logic 7 doesn't load, but doesn't complain about).

Maybe i'm just lucky

[preben]

Works really well here as well with a modicum of 3rd party native plugs. TC Powercore works completely without any problems at all. UAD-1 a bit more so so.

[Kestral]

Logic Pro 7 has been rock solid for me. I'm running it on a G4 Powerbook 15" 1.5 ghz and a dual 1.8 G5 tower. A friend of mine also runs it on a dual 2 G5 tower and it is also rock solid.

[peter893]

not running on a G5 but Logic Pro 7 has been pretty solid for me as well.
I would have loved to have seen PDC and a little faster GUI.
other than that good stuff....

And remember for those that do have issues, a logic update is right around the corner.

Peter

[robdarling]

Logic 7 on its own may be fine, but with third party, there are a lot of hassles. The UA Validation manager has all kinds of problems- it loses track of of plugs, crashes during the validation process, and since they sprung it on everyone without announcement, it has incompatiblities with lots of plugs that were fine in 6. In addition, hardware that was fine in 6 (MOTU 828) had lots of glitching with softsynths in 7- the emi 6/2 had no problems in 7. This is all on a G5. I rolled both of my clients on 7 back to 6- it just wasn't ready for primetime.

[Kestral]

For plugins I'm running the latest version of Waves, Buzzer, Crystal and M-Tron, and Logic Pro 7 is rock solid.

I hear the big problem is with the Native Instruments plugs

[robdarling]

here are some of the issues I've had:

a lot of glitching with exs-24 and VSL

trilogy/atmosphere/stylus suddenly being lost by validation manager after having been installed and working for some time

arturia cs-80 crashing system

heavy exs/vsl use crashes logic with motu 828 but not emi 6/2

none of these problems occur with Logic 6.

[Roger Starr]

Must say that this sounds quiet worrying. It looks like Logic works only well with Logic itself on a G5. Having problems with the audio interface (Motu 828) is a big problem I believe. Also having problems with stuff like Stylus, Trilogy, NI B4 and NI FM7 are a total showstopper since this stuff is something a really want to use. Concerning the update, when would this be and can one expect to have the stuff mentioned here solved?

Roger

[bigbaby987]

roger...i'm no logic evangelist. however, all of the things that you named that were show stopped aside from the 828 all work extremely well for me. i think logic itself is a little more cpu hungry than before but hey if you have a dual g5. yes there are maybe 2 or 3 plugs that don't pass the au test, but it may be for the best. i will agree that we are in need of an update some time very soon to create a smoother experience, but as far as i can tell you on my dual g4, things look very promising. just remember this is apples first real roll out of this app so there are going to be a few growing pains, but i think they will take it to another level like they did with final cut. it's just my opinion. it's your decision.

[Roger Starr]

Partly I would agree with your point of view except that it's not quiet true that this is 'Apple 's' first roll out. Actually, it's still the old Emagic team that is responsible for this piece of software and release. Emagic has always been developing their Logic for OSX and before the release of 7.0 always with great succes. The fact that there are apparantly complaints made by a lot of Logic users does say something... Would this also be the case if they were still indepent?

Regards,

Roger

[robdarling]

bb987-

I don't think this is an issue of CPU hunger. Same machine, same interface, same session, same plugs, nothing super exotic, very erratic behavior in 7 compared to 6. Maybe you're not pushing the machine as far, but there shouldn't be such a radical difference in performance. The fact that it works fine with the 6/2 and not the 828 mean it is not cpu-related and leads me to believe that there have been fundamental audio engine changes that are leading to bad synchronization of the disk, memory, and pci busses which were tested with Apple hardware but not third party. Also cpu load balancing is very erratic- one launch of a song will have an even balance, but another will have one processor being leaned on heavily and bring a cpu spike.

The distributed-processing is my lead guess as the culprit. Adding ethernet to your audio sync and the fact that it is per-track assignable is a pretty hairy thing in terms of prying open the audio engine.