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Old 28th May 2008   #1
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Logics own tape saturation plug

Great tip; using Logic Tape delay as a tape saturatin plug:

Logic Pro Help :: View topic - Logic's hidden tape distortion plug

Works great one some sources with loads of options... just watch your high end and phase (when blending with the direct source)
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Logic Pro Help :: View topic - Logic's hidden tape distortion plug
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here is a file the guy created using tapehead and logics tape delay. it's a 3


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Anyway, here's a demo for all you non believers.

Note: This is a the vintage funk 03 'Rihanna' loop looped 3 times, first dry, then with Logic's plug and Massey's AU (though I'm not giving away the order). Also note that I'm currently not allowed to use my speakers, and so I had to make this on some cheap cans, hence any perceivable difference between the two plugs (I can usually make them sound freakishly alike).

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pardon my noobness, but what exactly does such a plugin do?
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pardon my noobness, but what exactly does such a plugin do?
It eats your high end, bubbles your low mids and seriously distorts your source when you lower(!) the hidden distortion slider...
Intensity is rules by the feedback slider.

The effect it can have is funny enough a more focused and realistic sound image of the source. But it's not for all sources.
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Is this really some kind big trade secret?

it seems as though you have something cool to tell us Logic users yet don't want to say what it is?

Is this some kind of guessing game? I think i missed the point?

Are you sharing some kind of esoteric technique?



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Is this really some kind big trade secret?

it seems as though you have something cool to tell us Logic users yet don't want to say what it is?

Is this some kind of guessing game? I think i missed the point?

Are you sharing some kind of esoteric technique?



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what this is about is using Logic's tape delay plugin not as a delay but as a tape emulator...simple as that
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The tape delay can be set to zero seconds..no delay. So the audio being passed
through it gets the sonic 'tape sound' treatment from the plugin without the delay.
I have to try this when I get a chance.
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haha...insane.... i do this already! But just thought of it as a delay, just so short it's not there yet sounds nice.... funny though cos i'm sure the older tape delay plug never set to exactly zero??? Maybe i remember wrong...

I guess i just always think 'delay' and forgot the 'tape' bit over the years... never considered what it was emulating in a way..

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Too bad it doesn't remember the 0 ms setting. Means resetting it every time you open the song
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It's been possible to do this for a while - even without setting a delay of 0ms all it takes is bumping the content of the track you've inserted it on forward in time by the delay "note" value. This also opens up all sorts of "experimental" possibilities. Think beat-juggling/tape-loops/playback speed manipulation/the classic "lo-fi" intro etc.

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Too bad it doesn't remember the 0 ms setting. Means resetting it every time you open the song

Why not just automate a 0 ms delay?
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Why not just automate a 0 ms delay?
Smart thinking thumbsup That's an elegant workaround.
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can you use the Echo the same way?

or just the tape delay?
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The Tape Delay in Logic is one awesome plug. I use it on a lot of things all the time. And this is a great trick described here!
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Too bad it doesn't remember the 0 ms setting. Means resetting it every time you open the song

easy - for all logic plugs you can set the default setting by saving the desired setting as "#default"

when you open any plug it will automatically load up with that setting
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where do you save the #default to? If you do it in the normal personal settings area it doesn't make it an actual default.

I just saved it as tape sim at 0.1 with the wet up and dry down, so when I load it I just push it down to 0 and it's sweet. Great trick, sounds awesome on drums!
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Works great on the Master and gels mixes together, I'm loving this plugin more so than ever now, always loved the EQ on it..
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I've heard this before but I think will try it tonight. This seems very promising. Has anyone passed it through graphs and analysed this effect in terms of harmonics/distortion characteristics?

I'll try running it true PAZ maybe shed some light about what's going on. Ultimately, it's shocking if Logic went to the trouble of designing a perfect tape emulator just for a tape delay - although it does some obvious being called tape delay, I never for once thought it really modelled tape when set to 0 ms.

Definitely warrants deeper investigation/auditioning.

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where do you save the #default to? If you do it in the normal personal settings area it doesn't make it an actual default.

should work fine - save in the usual place - make sure there's no space between the '#' and 'default'
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nope. sounds nothing like tape. But useful nevertheless. It does generate added harmonics when u play with the feedback. Overall, I'm not convinced about it's sound in regards to emulating tape. However, it does have an extremely strong effect on the source and would be great for blending and adding a little "thickness"/body to thin instruments like a ukelele perharps. Overall, I'm pleased with the result wether or not it emulates tape doesn't really matter as it's a free plugin and does wonders in the delay fx department.

Great for rounding out overly bright sources. Cool trick thanks for reviving it.

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It really works nicely for gluing sounds together
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I'll give it a try tonite.
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