Atmosphere 1.2.4 & Logic 8.0.2 Fails Validation...

rosewoodstrat · 22nd May 2008, 04:37 AM

Herein below I have copied and pasted the results from Logic 8.0.2's Audio Units Manager, whilst attempting to manually validate Spectrasonics Atmosphere. I doubt if there's going to be a solution to this somewhat major issue, as a quick visit to Spectrasonic's website reveals the Audio Unit component of Atmosphere hasn't been updated since July 2005.

I would like to see Spectrasonics address this issue. Might Spectrasonics attempt to pass the buck on to Apple, though? I don't think there's an argument there for Spectrasonics. Apple, albeit a bit slow, do eventually get around to updating their software at some point in time.

Am I expected (by Spectrasonics) to go out and buy an upgrade from Atmosphere to Omnisphere...? For the record, I don't want or need Omnisphere. I bought a Synthesizer software package. I expect it to receive the required support from the company that created it. Just like Arturia do. Or maybe Izotope. Are Spectrasonics leaving behind their Atmosphere customers here? Will Atmosphere get a simple update to enable it to validate properly with Logic 8.0.2? I hope so. I remain an optimist. An optimist lacking a tool that I purchased with perfectly crisp money once upon a time.

I'll say it again: I bought Atmosphere from your company, Eric. I think you make some very creative tools but unfortunately your company are increasingly perpetrating this somewhat unfair trend of "reinventing" your older software, then altering it's name, but then leaving behind the older software that was bought and paid for by your customers with good money, so that it eventually fails to work on new updates such as, in my case, Logic 8.0.2. And then along comes the big sales pitch: OMNISPHERE! So powerful, so omnipresent!

Eric, please could you update my Atmosphere component plugin with maybe 0.000001% of the incoming revenue from those who decide to buy Omnisphere. I would be eternally grateful if you could just take care of that.

I'm not really that partial to having my arm twisted into buying Omnisphere just because Spectrasonics choose not to support Atmosphere in a thoughtful and customer caring manner. I find Spectrasonics somewhat irritating with regard to their abject lack of support for their older but perfectly good plugins.

Atmosphere 1.2.4
Created: Thursday July 28th 2005 10:26pm

validating Audio Unit Atmosphere by Spectrasonics:

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
AU Validation Tool
Version: 1.2.1b3
Copyright 2003-2007, Apple, Inc. All Rights Reserved.

Specify -h (-help) for command options
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

--------------------------------------------------
VALIDATING AUDIO UNIT: 'aumu' - 'ATMO' - 'JKdH'
--------------------------------------------------
Manufacturer String: Spectrasonics
AudioUnit name: Atmosphere
Component Info: Dream Synth Module
Component Version: 1.2.4 (0x10204)
Component's Bundle Version: 1.0.0

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
TESTING OPEN TIMES:
COLD:
Time to open AudioUnit: 9.167 ms
WARM:
Time to open AudioUnit: 0.257 ms
FIRST TIME:
Time for initialization: 663.822 ms

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
VERIFYING DEFAULT SCOPE FORMATS:
Input Scope Bus Configuration:
Default Bus Count:0

Output Scope Bus Configuration:
Default Bus Count:1
Default Format: AudioStreamBasicDescription: 2 ch, 44100 Hz, 'lpcm' (0x0000002B) 32-bit big-endian float, deinterleaved

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
VERIFYING REQUIRED PROPERTIES:
VERIFYING PROPERTY: Sample Rate
PASS
VERIFYING PROPERTY: Stream Format
PASS
VERIFYING PROPERTY: Maximum Frames Per Slice
PASS
VERIFYING PROPERTY: Last Render Error
PASS
VERIFYING PROPERTY: Instrument Count
PASS

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
VERIFYING RECOMMENDED PROPERTIES:
VERIFYING PROPERTY: Latency
PASS

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
VERIFYING OPTIONAL PROPERTIES:
VERIFYING PROPERTY Supported Number of Channels
PASS
VERIFYING PROPERTY Host Callbacks
PASS

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
VERIFYING SPECIAL PROPERTIES:

VERIFYING CUSTOM UI
Carbon View Components Available: 1
auvw AMUI JKdH - Uvi User Interface
PASS

Cocoa Views Available: 0

VERIFYING CLASS INFO
PASS

TESTING HOST CALLBACKS
PASS

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
PUBLISHED PARAMETER INFO:

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
FORMAT TESTS:

Reported Channel Capabilities (explicit):
[0, 2] [-16379, -24197]

No Input, Output Chans:
0-1 0-2 0-4 0-5 0-6 0-7 0-8
X
WARNING: Can Initialize Unit to un-supported num channels:InputChan:0, OutputChan:1
WARNING: Can Initialize Unit to un-supported num channels:InputChan:0, OutputChan:4
WARNING: Can Initialize Unit to un-supported num channels:InputChan:0, OutputChan:5
WARNING: Can Initialize Unit to un-supported num channels:InputChan:0, OutputChan:6
WARNING: Can Initialize Unit to un-supported num channels:InputChan:0, OutputChan:7
WARNING: Can Initialize Unit to un-supported num channels:InputChan:0, OutputChan:8
ERROR: AU incorrectly reports Dynamic Configuration capability (bus count is not writable)

* * FAIL
--------------------------------------------------
AU VALIDATION FAILED: CORRECT THE ERRORS ABOVE.
--------------------------------------------------

validation result: failed validation

trakk · 23rd May 2008, 07:22 PM

Did you download the 'wrapper' file that allows Atmosphere to run on Intel Macs? I just went through the install/authorization process a couple of days ago and it's running fine on my Mac Pro even with the wrapper.

jazzymike · 6th June 2008, 05:21 PM

there's a solution, bit unorthodox...
you click Preferences > Audio Units Manager

Atmosphere (or Trilogy) will be classifed as "failed validation"

You click the check button next to it, the validation tool starts, be quick and abort it (click abort).

The status should change to "not yet validated", now select Atmosphere (or Trilogy) and click on the "Reset & Rescan Selection" button. Let the validation tool load and fail the plug-in, the status should change to "failed validation" however you'll now be able to load the plug-in with the occasional request from logic whether you want to ignore the invalid plug-ins.

This is a workaround at best..neither an official solution nor do I want to be held accountable for that crash during one of them magic sessions ,)

SKyflash34 · 7th June 2008, 12:40 AM

Works fine here on my system

yore · 10th June 2008, 09:58 AM

Rosewoodstrat,
find the answer here:
BigBlueLounge.com -- View topic - Spectrasonics Intel Mac situation
and read the first and the second mailing from Eric.

Cheers

quincyg · 10th June 2008, 09:57 PM

spectra has really dropped the ball with the atmosphere update. alot of excuses and just a funky temp fix.

trakk · 10th June 2008, 11:11 PM

I have a brand new Mac Pro 8 core, 8G, etc. Do you think it's likely that the Spectrasonics wrapper is what's causing Logic to crash regularly? It's really a virgin system and I can't imagine what else would be causing it.

maxruehl · 18th June 2008, 11:44 PM

This isn't just an Intel issue. I have the same thing happening on my PPC G4. The same AU versions that were working under Tiger and Logic Express are now failing validation under Leopard 10.53 and Logic Pro 8.02. I get the same error message that rosewoodstrat got.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rosewoodstrat

Atmosphere 1.2.4
Created: Thursday July 28th 2005 10:26pm

validating Audio Unit Atmosphere by Spectrasonics:

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
AU Validation Tool
Version: 1.2.1b3
Copyright 2003-2007, Apple, Inc. All Rights Reserved.

Specify -h (-help) for command options
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

--------------------------------------------------
VALIDATING AUDIO UNIT: 'aumu' - 'ATMO' - 'JKdH'
--------------------------------------------------
Manufacturer String: Spectrasonics
AudioUnit name: Atmosphere
Component Info: Dream Synth Module
Component Version: 1.2.4 (0x10204)
Component's Bundle Version: 1.0.0

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
TESTING OPEN TIMES:
COLD:
Time to open AudioUnit: 9.167 ms
WARM:
Time to open AudioUnit: 0.257 ms
FIRST TIME:
Time for initialization: 663.822 ms

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
VERIFYING DEFAULT SCOPE FORMATS:
Input Scope Bus Configuration:
Default Bus Count:0

Output Scope Bus Configuration:
Default Bus Count:1
Default Format: AudioStreamBasicDescription: 2 ch, 44100 Hz, 'lpcm' (0x0000002B) 32-bit big-endian float, deinterleaved

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
VERIFYING REQUIRED PROPERTIES:
VERIFYING PROPERTY: Sample Rate
PASS
VERIFYING PROPERTY: Stream Format
PASS
VERIFYING PROPERTY: Maximum Frames Per Slice
PASS
VERIFYING PROPERTY: Last Render Error
PASS
VERIFYING PROPERTY: Instrument Count
PASS

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
VERIFYING RECOMMENDED PROPERTIES:
VERIFYING PROPERTY: Latency
PASS

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
VERIFYING OPTIONAL PROPERTIES:
VERIFYING PROPERTY Supported Number of Channels
PASS
VERIFYING PROPERTY Host Callbacks
PASS

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
VERIFYING SPECIAL PROPERTIES:

VERIFYING CUSTOM UI
Carbon View Components Available: 1
auvw AMUI JKdH - Uvi User Interface
PASS

Cocoa Views Available: 0

VERIFYING CLASS INFO
PASS

TESTING HOST CALLBACKS
PASS

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
PUBLISHED PARAMETER INFO:

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
FORMAT TESTS:

Reported Channel Capabilities (explicit):
[0, 2] [-16379, -24197]

No Input, Output Chans:
0-1 0-2 0-4 0-5 0-6 0-7 0-8
X
WARNING: Can Initialize Unit to un-supported num channels:InputChan:0, OutputChan:1
WARNING: Can Initialize Unit to un-supported num channels:InputChan:0, OutputChan:4
WARNING: Can Initialize Unit to un-supported num channels:InputChan:0, OutputChan:5
WARNING: Can Initialize Unit to un-supported num channels:InputChan:0, OutputChan:6
WARNING: Can Initialize Unit to un-supported num channels:InputChan:0, OutputChan:7
WARNING: Can Initialize Unit to un-supported num channels:InputChan:0, OutputChan:8
ERROR: AU incorrectly reports Dynamic Configuration capability (bus count is not writable)

* * FAIL
--------------------------------------------------
AU VALIDATION FAILED: CORRECT THE ERRORS ABOVE.
--------------------------------------------------

validation result: failed validation

sleepless63 · 4th July 2008, 08:35 AM

Hi,

I was so worried by the failed AUvalidation with Atmosphere and Trilogy that I had to find a solution.

Here it is:

Use the FXpansion VSTtoAU Adaptor v2.0.

Put a copy of the VST versions of the instruments of the VSTtoAU vstplugins folder.

Put a symbolic link to the instruments respective .dat files in the same folder.

Launch VSTtoAU

Done!

You'll find fully working VIs in a VST submenu in the I/O>AU Instruments menu.

Only issue is you have to reassign the instruments in all previous Logic projects, and your former aupresets won't be available in the wrapped instruments.

I know this is a workaround, but it works fine, and I'm able again to work with both instruments. Who knows when an update (upgrade) of Trilogy will be released ?...

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22nd May 2008, 04:37 AM	#1
rosewoodstrat Gear Head Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 52	Atmosphere 1.2.4 & Logic 8.0.2 Fails Validation... Herein below I have copied and pasted the results from Logic 8.0.2's Audio Units Manager, whilst attempting to manually validate Spectrasonics Atmosphere. I doubt if there's going to be a solution to this somewhat major issue, as a quick visit to Spectrasonic's website reveals the Audio Unit component of Atmosphere hasn't been updated since July 2005. I would like to see Spectrasonics address this issue. Might Spectrasonics attempt to pass the buck on to Apple, though? I don't think there's an argument there for Spectrasonics. Apple, albeit a bit slow, do eventually get around to updating their software at some point in time. Am I expected (by Spectrasonics) to go out and buy an upgrade from Atmosphere to Omnisphere...? For the record, I don't want or need Omnisphere. I bought a Synthesizer software package. I expect it to receive the required support from the company that created it. Just like Arturia do. Or maybe Izotope. Are Spectrasonics leaving behind their Atmosphere customers here? Will Atmosphere get a simple update to enable it to validate properly with Logic 8.0.2? I hope so. I remain an optimist. An optimist lacking a tool that I purchased with perfectly crisp money once upon a time. I'll say it again: I bought Atmosphere from your company, Eric. I think you make some very creative tools but unfortunately your company are increasingly perpetrating this somewhat unfair trend of "reinventing" your older software, then altering it's name, but then leaving behind the older software that was bought and paid for by your customers with good money, so that it eventually fails to work on new updates such as, in my case, Logic 8.0.2. And then along comes the big sales pitch: OMNISPHERE! So powerful, so omnipresent! Eric, please could you update my Atmosphere component plugin with maybe 0.000001% of the incoming revenue from those who decide to buy Omnisphere. I would be eternally grateful if you could just take care of that. I'm not really that partial to having my arm twisted into buying Omnisphere just because Spectrasonics choose not to support Atmosphere in a thoughtful and customer caring manner. I find Spectrasonics somewhat irritating with regard to their abject lack of support for their older but perfectly good plugins. Atmosphere 1.2.4 Created: Thursday July 28th 2005 10:26pm validating Audio Unit Atmosphere by Spectrasonics: * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * AU Validation Tool Version: 1.2.1b3 Copyright 2003-2007, Apple, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Specify -h (-help) for command options * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * -------------------------------------------------- VALIDATING AUDIO UNIT: 'aumu' - 'ATMO' - 'JKdH' -------------------------------------------------- Manufacturer String: Spectrasonics AudioUnit name: Atmosphere Component Info: Dream Synth Module Component Version: 1.2.4 (0x10204) Component's Bundle Version: 1.0.0 * * PASS -------------------------------------------------- TESTING OPEN TIMES: COLD: Time to open AudioUnit: 9.167 ms WARM: Time to open AudioUnit: 0.257 ms FIRST TIME: Time for initialization: 663.822 ms * * PASS -------------------------------------------------- VERIFYING DEFAULT SCOPE FORMATS: Input Scope Bus Configuration: Default Bus Count:0 Output Scope Bus Configuration: Default Bus Count:1 Default Format: AudioStreamBasicDescription: 2 ch, 44100 Hz, 'lpcm' (0x0000002B) 32-bit big-endian float, deinterleaved * * PASS -------------------------------------------------- VERIFYING REQUIRED PROPERTIES: VERIFYING PROPERTY: Sample Rate PASS VERIFYING PROPERTY: Stream Format PASS VERIFYING PROPERTY: Maximum Frames Per Slice PASS VERIFYING PROPERTY: Last Render Error PASS VERIFYING PROPERTY: Instrument Count PASS * * PASS -------------------------------------------------- VERIFYING RECOMMENDED PROPERTIES: VERIFYING PROPERTY: Latency PASS * * PASS -------------------------------------------------- VERIFYING OPTIONAL PROPERTIES: VERIFYING PROPERTY Supported Number of Channels PASS VERIFYING PROPERTY Host Callbacks PASS * * PASS -------------------------------------------------- VERIFYING SPECIAL PROPERTIES: VERIFYING CUSTOM UI Carbon View Components Available: 1 auvw AMUI JKdH - Uvi User Interface PASS Cocoa Views Available: 0 VERIFYING CLASS INFO PASS TESTING HOST CALLBACKS PASS * * PASS -------------------------------------------------- PUBLISHED PARAMETER INFO: * * PASS -------------------------------------------------- FORMAT TESTS: Reported Channel Capabilities (explicit): [0, 2] [-16379, -24197] No Input, Output Chans: 0-1 0-2 0-4 0-5 0-6 0-7 0-8 X WARNING: Can Initialize Unit to un-supported num channels:InputChan:0, OutputChan:1 WARNING: Can Initialize Unit to un-supported num channels:InputChan:0, OutputChan:4 WARNING: Can Initialize Unit to un-supported num channels:InputChan:0, OutputChan:5 WARNING: Can Initialize Unit to un-supported num channels:InputChan:0, OutputChan:6 WARNING: Can Initialize Unit to un-supported num channels:InputChan:0, OutputChan:7 WARNING: Can Initialize Unit to un-supported num channels:InputChan:0, OutputChan:8 ERROR: AU incorrectly reports Dynamic Configuration capability (bus count is not writable) * * FAIL -------------------------------------------------- AU VALIDATION FAILED: CORRECT THE ERRORS ABOVE. -------------------------------------------------- validation result: failed validation

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23rd May 2008, 07:22 PM	#2
trakk Gear nut Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Nashville Posts: 107	Did you download the 'wrapper' file that allows Atmosphere to run on Intel Macs? I just went through the install/authorization process a couple of days ago and it's running fine on my Mac Pro even with the wrapper.

6th June 2008, 05:21 PM	#3
jazzymike Gear interested Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 27	there's a solution, bit unorthodox... you click Preferences > Audio Units Manager Atmosphere (or Trilogy) will be classifed as "failed validation" You click the check button next to it, the validation tool starts, be quick and abort it (click abort). The status should change to "not yet validated", now select Atmosphere (or Trilogy) and click on the "Reset & Rescan Selection" button. Let the validation tool load and fail the plug-in, the status should change to "failed validation" however you'll now be able to load the plug-in with the occasional request from logic whether you want to ignore the invalid plug-ins. This is a workaround at best..neither an official solution nor do I want to be held accountable for that crash during one of them magic sessions ,)

7th June 2008, 12:40 AM	#4
SKyflash34 Gear nut Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 137	Works fine here on my system

10th June 2008, 09:58 AM	#5
yore Gear Head Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 52	Rosewoodstrat, find the answer here: BigBlueLounge.com -- View topic - Spectrasonics Intel Mac situation and read the first and the second mailing from Eric. Cheers

10th June 2008, 09:57 PM	#6
quincyg Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,382	spectra has really dropped the ball with the atmosphere update. alot of excuses and just a funky temp fix.

10th June 2008, 11:11 PM	#7
trakk Gear nut Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Nashville Posts: 107	I have a brand new Mac Pro 8 core, 8G, etc. Do you think it's likely that the Spectrasonics wrapper is what's causing Logic to crash regularly? It's really a virgin system and I can't imagine what else would be causing it.

4th July 2008, 08:35 AM	#9
sleepless63 Gear interested Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: France Posts: 2	Hi, I was so worried by the failed AUvalidation with Atmosphere and Trilogy that I had to find a solution. Here it is: Use the FXpansion VSTtoAU Adaptor v2.0. Put a copy of the VST versions of the instruments of the VSTtoAU vstplugins folder. Put a symbolic link to the instruments respective .dat files in the same folder. Launch VSTtoAU Done! You'll find fully working VIs in a VST submenu in the I/O>AU Instruments menu. Only issue is you have to reassign the instruments in all previous Logic projects, and your former aupresets won't be available in the wrapped instruments. I know this is a workaround, but it works fine, and I'm able again to work with both instruments. Who knows when an update (upgrade) of Trilogy will be released ?...