Gate latency nudge question

blinkSaunders · 7th May 2008, 08:31 PM

I have a question about two things I've learned recently.

I have recently learned the gate technique of nudging a dummy kick track say 50 samples forward (in time) to the key input of a gate on the kick you want to hear.

I have also recently learned that putting the Dyn 3 gate on a track delays it by 96 samples and that this too should be nudged forward in time to compensate.

So the question is since the main kick has a Dyn 3 on it and needs to be nudged, does the key input track need to be nudged and extra 96 on top of the 50 I'm doing?

Thanks in advance.

Kadden Heart · 7th May 2008, 09:14 PM

to the best of my knwledge,...no.

i usually go with 70-80 samples for the kick trigger.

why?
because charles dye in the "mix it" DVD has a trigger kick set 80 samples ahead of time.

this seems to work just fine for me.

Charles Dye · 17th May 2008, 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blinkSaunders

I have a question about two things I've learned recently.

I have recently learned the gate technique of nudging a dummy kick track say 50 samples forward (in time) to the key input of a gate on the kick you want to hear.

I have also recently learned that putting the Dyn 3 gate on a track delays it by 96 samples and that this too should be nudged forward in time to compensate.

So the question is since the main kick has a Dyn 3 on it and needs to be nudged, does the key input track need to be nudged and extra 96 on top of the 50 I'm doing?

Thanks in advance.

I'm actually now using the Dyn 3 gate in Look Ahead mode instead of the kick trigger concept. Works just as well + is much easier.

staudio · 17th May 2008, 05:25 AM

A gate with lookahead is preferable, but if doing it the old way then try a 5 ms nudge forward in time on the trigger track.

psycho_monkey · 17th May 2008, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blinkSaunders

I have a question about two things I've learned recently.

I have recently learned the gate technique of nudging a dummy kick track say 50 samples forward (in time) to the key input of a gate on the kick you want to hear.

I have also recently learned that putting the Dyn 3 gate on a track delays it by 96 samples and that this too should be nudged forward in time to compensate.

So the question is since the main kick has a Dyn 3 on it and needs to be nudged, does the key input track need to be nudged and extra 96 on top of the 50 I'm doing?

Thanks in advance.

If you're using this technique, the trigger track always needs to be earlier than the gated track. So yes - if you're nudging one 96samples earlier, the trigger has to be 96 +50 (or whatever) earlier.

...otherwise the trigger will be 46samples later than the audio of course!

Although Mr Dye's method is probably less hassle.

blinkSaunders · 17th June 2008, 03:45 AM

I have no problem, using a look a look-ahead if it's easy, but it seems I would still need to nudge that 96 samples to compensate for the latency, correct?

Thanks for helping me to try and figure is out.

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7th May 2008, 08:31 PM	#1
blinkSaunders Gear interested Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 9	Gate latency nudge question I have a question about two things I've learned recently. I have recently learned the gate technique of nudging a dummy kick track say 50 samples forward (in time) to the key input of a gate on the kick you want to hear. I have also recently learned that putting the Dyn 3 gate on a track delays it by 96 samples and that this too should be nudged forward in time to compensate. So the question is since the main kick has a Dyn 3 on it and needs to be nudged, does the key input track need to be nudged and extra 96 on top of the 50 I'm doing? Thanks in advance.

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Kadden Heart Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Orlando/San Fernando Valley Posts: 773	to the best of my knwledge,...no. i usually go with 70-80 samples for the kick trigger. why? because charles dye in the "mix it" DVD has a trigger kick set 80 samples ahead of time. this seems to work just fine for me. __________________ "can we make the guitar louder,..and the snare, and kick,..and maybe the bass to, oh and the vocals, and maybe bring up the cymbals a little bit"

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17th May 2008, 05:25 AM	#4
staudio Gear addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: New York Posts: 391	A gate with lookahead is preferable, but if doing it the old way then try a 5 ms nudge forward in time on the trigger track.

17th June 2008, 03:45 AM	#6
blinkSaunders Gear interested Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 9	I have no problem, using a look a look-ahead if it's easy, but it seems I would still need to nudge that 96 samples to compensate for the latency, correct? Thanks for helping me to try and figure is out.