Cubase or Sonar on PC...coming from Mac.

[Alndln]

As someone who's used both I now prefer Sonar and alway's kind of felt that DP was alway's sort of it's Mac cousin, but that's only my opinion. The good news is Sonar has a downloadable Demo so you can evaluate the situation yourself. As far as differences go I feel that Nuendo(what I used) is a bit more advanced in audio editing and was more advanced in instrument handling but now that and midi are pretty much a draw. Sonar to me is more straight foward and more stable.

[theblue1]

I'm a happy Sonar user. I'd have to say I was under the impression that Cubase might have the edge in MIDI but I was more of the impression that they're pretty close in terms of audio capabilities. Sonar has some nice workflow and interface features. Judging from the benchmarks at DAWBench, Cubase (or Nuendo in their tests) would appear to have an edge when it comes to plug-in hosting efficiency. (But Reaper kicks both their asses.)

[George Necola]

Cubase here.

happy. after 3 bugfixes it's stable. short burnin-time, good manuals, and videos.

cheers

[captain caveman]

Big plus for Sonar..... you can try the demo out for 28 days to see if you like it.

Big plus for Cubase..... you can buy it and if in 3 months time you don't like it you can sell it again.

Sonar didn't work out for me in a big way and I wish I could sell it, but I can't. Of course there are many people with different experiences from me.

Another option would be to keep DP and subtract the cost of Cubase/Sonar from the cost of a refurbished Mac....

Uk Refurb Store

... and see if it doesn't work out cheaper than a PC + new software?

[rodreb]

Running SONAR here....... Love it!

ROD
Imaginary Friend Recording

[Autocrat]

Anyone else?

Also, is there a big difference between Nuendo and Cubase4?

[trock]

I have both, sonar 7 PE and CUbase 4.1.3. i use cubase in the end for the most part, but both are good programs. i don't like the dongle or support from steinberg, i like no dongle and the support is much better from cakewalk

however, for me cubase just works better, and i do mostly all audio, very little midi.

[andsonic]

I would highly recomend that you add Samplitude to your pool (especially if you are considering Sonar).

[Alndln]

Originally Posted by Autocrat

Also, is there a big difference between Nuendo and Cubase4?

Not a whole lot, but Nuendo's more geared to post and Cubase for Composition.

[siriusbliss]

I'm running dfhS and Atmosphere in Samplitude (soon to be V10.1) with no issues, and PLENTY of fast editing capabilities in audio/MIDI overlay object-oriented methodology of Samplitude give it serious consideration.

You don't have to switch off programs for different stages in the process, which is a big plus IMO.

There are cross-grade deals going on - check in with Tom at Orangehillaudio.com for deals, and also download the demo at Samplitude.com.

Good luck,

Greg

[Autocrat]

Cool - I'll check it out.

Does Samplitude have a decent drum editor? We've been doing manual drum placement in DP using DFHS.

Thanks

Originally Posted by siriusbliss

I'm running dfhS and Atmosphere in Samplitude (soon to be V10.1) with no issues, and PLENTY of fast editing capabilities in audio/MIDI overlay object-oriented methodology of Samplitude give it serious consideration.

You don't have to switch off programs for different stages in the process, which is a big plus IMO.

There are cross-grade deals going on - check in with Tom at Orangehillaudio.com for deals, and also download the demo at Samplitude.com.

Good luck,

Greg

[larrykane]

Sonar Producer 7.02 has a 64 bit internal engine that runs in a 32 bit OS environmentm such as winxp pro. That is good. It also has floating point sampling. that is good. Sonar 7.02 has greatly improved midi editing over previous versions as well as some very fine plugins as standard gear.
However there is a known issue with 7.01/02/03 The latency compensation feature has been known to not work reliably on a small numbers of pc's. This means (and only means) that if you want to compress outside the box, or use any other time dependent hardware, you may be among the small frustrated minority that cant get a perfect consistent lock. You should do the free demo to check it on your new PC before committing. If you buy it you should fully uninstall the demo before installing the registered version. more on this can be found searching the cakewalk forums

[Autocrat]

Yeah, i plan to get the demo. I just hate installing and uninstalling and still have traces of the program still in the machine.

I use the UAD cards. So you're saying there is an issue with that since I need the delay compensation?

[andsonic]

Samplitude 10 has an auto-quantize feature for drum editing. It's also had (since v8) an Elastic Audio feature for time-stretching & pitch correction. Some Samp users have Mellodyn but I get good results from Samp's own EA when pitch correction is needed.

[siriusbliss]

Samplitude has an excellent drum editor, and dfhS maps perfectly in the editor. You can even freeze the MIDI drum tracks (and/or render audio from inside dfhS) in the VIP (project).
It also has external hardware latency compensation that allows you to configure the external latency depending on which hardware you're using.

While you are checking out the demo, you can register on their forum if you have questions. Pretty helpful

Greg

[D K]

Originally Posted by Autocrat

Yeah, i plan to get the demo. I just hate installing and uninstalling and still have traces of the program still in the machine.

I use the UAD cards. So you're saying there is an issue with that since I need the delay compensation?

No - This is different than the PDC - That's fine with UAD and other Latency inducing plugs - What this involves is external hardware - I believe cubase pings extternal hardware to measure Latency - Some users have found this to be inconsistent in Sonar