scope 4 plugin's?

wakestyle · 1st May 2008, 09:03 PM

Hey can't find my old post,, did someone delete it?

anyways can anyone tell me if you can use a scope card with it's plugin's in xtc mode, while running cubase with another asio soundcard?

does getting a scope card for plugin's make sense?

sodiumcycle · 2nd May 2008, 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wakestyle

Hey can't find my old post,, did someone delete it?

anyways can anyone tell me if you can use a scope card with it's plugin's in xtc mode, while running cubase with another asio soundcard?

does getting a scope card for plugin's make sense?

I think that the Creamware cards require ASIO to do the routing in XTC mode so it probably wouldn't work.

On a related note, Creamware was really ahead of their time in terms of engineering and way back in early 2000 I had latency at 7ms! Their synths were f*(cking great too. Unfortunately, charging what the do for a few measly Sharc dsps is just not worth it and their new firewire platform is almost $3000! Hopefully they will move to Blackfin. If they do I would love to return to the Creamware platform.

wakestyle · 2nd May 2008, 01:37 PM

what's blackfin?

gundam · 2nd May 2008, 03:31 PM

Actually, the new Sonic Core (ex Creamware) Xite uses Tigersharc which are cosiderably more powerful than the original sharc family. I think blackfin was designed more for gadget-oriented products that need audio streaming like smartphones and such.

That's why Sonic Core claims the new Xite is 10x more powerful than the Scope. It's pricey but it also serves an audio interface plus it's got an x-tdm port.

wakestyle · 3rd May 2008, 02:32 AM

can anyone else confirm that you cannot use scope xtc plugins with another soundcard?

wakestyle · 5th May 2008, 04:17 AM

bump.

I would be looking at getting a luna, or pulsar just for plugins/synths for use with another card in cubase.

wakestyle · 11th May 2008, 02:06 AM

bump.

nightscope · 11th May 2008, 02:43 AM

Ask here,

http://www.planetz.com/forums/index....124973a82c05f6

ns

electro · 11th May 2008, 03:20 AM

what is the difference between a Creamware vst plugs and UAD or Powercore vst plugs? Can't you load them no matter which soundcard you have?

wakestyle · 11th May 2008, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by electro

what is the difference between a Creamware vst plugs and UAD or Powercore vst plugs? Can't you load them no matter which soundcard you have?

I've heard rumors that they might not render properly...

Also there might be gui problems??

Elie · 12th May 2008, 05:16 AM

??

Ask here: Planet Z :: Index

Scope works in real-time only, no rendering possible, and the plug-ins work only on the Sonic-Core platform HW. The sound quality is second to none though, and the mixing/routing environment is truly great. If you're after serious creation tools, then it's worth considering. I wouldn't start with less than 6 dsps, unless you're really tight on money.

wakestyle · 12th May 2008, 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elie

??

Ask here: Planet Z :: Index

Scope works in real-time only, no rendering possible, and the plug-ins work only on the Sonic-Core platform HW. The sound quality is second to none though, and the mixing/routing environment is truly great. If you're after serious creation tools, then it's worth considering. I wouldn't start with less than 6 dsps, unless you're really tight on money.

Sorry, I'm talking about XTC mode, where you can use the plug-ins to work in Cubase, or other software. Would they work while using a different asio driver than the spl hardware? (In XTC mode of course)

Pulsar's can be found for about 300 bucks, usually with a bunch of plugs...

Elie · 13th May 2008, 05:12 AM

No, asio driver cannot be shared between different HW. I've never used XTC mode, so I'm not sure what's involved there. I'm sure that no rendering is possible tho, and no asio sharing.

siriusbliss · 17th May 2008, 06:01 AM

Scope has amazing sound quality, at very low latency.
Dedicated DSP-driven plugins are great for mixing outside of the host through Scope's environment.

You can also mix out of your host into another instance of your host during mixdown.

Scope plugins only work within Scope's environment or inside your host (using the XTC mode).

There are no GUI problems.

V5 is due any day now as well as the much-anticipated Xite!

Fun stuff.

Welcome to SONIC CORE

Greg

1st May 2008, 09:03 PM	#1
wakestyle Gear addict Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 310	scope 4 plugin's? Hey can't find my old post,, did someone delete it? anyways can anyone tell me if you can use a scope card with it's plugin's in xtc mode, while running cubase with another asio soundcard? does getting a scope card for plugin's make sense?

11th May 2008, 03:20 AM	#9
electro Gear nut Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 89	what is the difference between a Creamware vst plugs and UAD or Powercore vst plugs? Can't you load them no matter which soundcard you have? __________________ -DFI LANParty UT Nf3 250Gb -AMD Athlon64 3200 retail with retail HSF (2.2Ghz) -Corsair VS512MB400 (*3 sticks) -Gainward Geforce 2 MX400 Twinview VIVO -RME 9652 Hammerfall 1.5 -Midiman Midisport 2x2

17th May 2008, 06:01 AM	#14
siriusbliss Gear nut Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 129	Scope has amazing sound quality, at very low latency. Dedicated DSP-driven plugins are great for mixing outside of the host through Scope's environment. You can also mix out of your host into another instance of your host during mixdown. Scope plugins only work within Scope's environment or inside your host (using the XTC mode). There are no GUI problems. V5 is due any day now as well as the much-anticipated Xite! Fun stuff. Welcome to SONIC CORE Greg __________________ Samplitude Pro V10.1, RME and Sonic Core interfaces, Brian Moore (w/MIDI), Chapman Stick (w/MIDI), Eventide Eclipse, Yamaha 01V96V2, VHT GP3

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wakestyle Gear addict Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 310	can anyone else confirm that you cannot use scope xtc plugins with another soundcard?

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wakestyle Gear addict Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 310	bump. I would be looking at getting a luna, or pulsar just for plugins/synths for use with another card in cubase.

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Elie Gear Head Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 59	?? Ask here: Planet Z :: Index Scope works in real-time only, no rendering possible, and the plug-ins work only on the Sonic-Core platform HW. The sound quality is second to none though, and the mixing/routing environment is truly great. If you're after serious creation tools, then it's worth considering. I wouldn't start with less than 6 dsps, unless you're really tight on money.

13th May 2008, 05:12 AM	#13
Elie Gear Head Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 59	No, asio driver cannot be shared between different HW. I've never used XTC mode, so I'm not sure what's involved there. I'm sure that no rendering is possible tho, and no asio sharing.