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Old 28th July 2004   #1
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PT export help needed

Hello all,

I'm mixing a project for a client with PT LE. HE saves his files as BWF (broadcast wave) and burns the files on CD for me. I open them in my RADAR and mix away. Except about five songs the files are not lining up and nothing I in the right place. The idea of BWF is a time stamped file, so things like this don't happen. I have DP3 at home and the files don't line up there either.

Any ideas on why some songs are fine and others are not?

Thanks in advance for letting one of the hardware guys come over to software-ville!
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I am a PTLE guy myself, and have just wrapped a project going to be mixed in DP4 - the files need to be aligned and consolidated properly to line up. Your post doesn't give enough detail to say why they aren't lining up, but it is the PT engineer's job to get them right. and after consolidating to delete the old files, ot at lest make a "session copy in..." so that the DP guy gets the riight stuff.

I don't know about Radar, but for DP you need to get the start time the same for all files, then it is a piece of cake for the mixer.

so go back to the PT guy and ask him to get it right!

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We're in the process of trying to figure out what was not right, so he can do it right. That's why I asked. I'm going to ask him about consolidating and then deleting.

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so go back to the PT guy and ask him to get it right!

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Not much he can do to get it wrong.. the time stamp is automatically added into every BWF/WAV file in Pro Tools as it's created... but there's an interesting thread in the iZ forum where there's talk of a bug in RADAR with BWF files when using certain SMPTE frame rates. The sample value will change with the frame rate - but the sample value itself is an absolute value from zero (where zero would be 00:00:00:00.00).

He shouldn't have to waste his time consolidating every track from Bar 1 Beat 1 if he's supplying BWF files.

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The weird thing is that some tunes are fine. I import and mix away. On others the tracks are all over the place. Even things like individual elements of the drum-set are not right.
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Well if the conversion math from samples to SMPTE is wrong.. that would happen.

Have you found out what frame rate the Pro Tools session was set to yet?

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I think you're onto something Rail...

i'll report back.
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Radar's don't do anything down to the sample, it's all TC based. But then you'd just be talking about a few samples off so I doubt that's it.
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Well if the conversion math from samples to SMPTE is wrong.. that would happen.

Have you found out what frame rate the Pro Tools session was set to yet?

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How can he check the frame rate and tell me what it is?
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command and "2" on the numeric pad brings up the session setup menu.
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Does this work on LE also?
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Yes

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