Logic with Apogee or Lynx?

Farout · 2nd March 2008, 04:22 PM

Hello, all.

I realize there are a lot of threads that talk about both Apogee & Lynx products. I spent the better part of lst night reading a lot of them. But I would like to get some opinions and input on something, when using with Logic Studio:

Symphony w/Rosetta 800 or Lynx AES16e w/Aurora 16

This isn't a question of which is better (I realize they both have their great points); rather it is a question of the differences between the (2) systems (when running Logic Studio).

I know that the Symphony is supposed to work very well with Logic - but it costs a lot of money (which is a factor). I also read a lot of "thumbs-up" replies about the Aurora 16. I need to know which is better suited for Logic, or if the differences are noticeable enough to spend the extra cash and get an Apogee Symphony system.

Thanks a lot for your input.

Take care.

jenkzy56@ · 2nd March 2008, 04:54 PM

i think that the aurora 16 is still not ready for primetime with logic studio,
if you are using a newer macpro,
as they have yet to release a PCIe card.
you could of course use one via firewire
(they have a firewire card)

im sure the mix software that linx uses would probably be fine
in conjunction with logic, albeit somewhat different than maestro.
as far as speed and efficiency, Symphony is designed to work with logic
from the ground up but, who knows what linxs PCIe card will bring to the table
when its released.

i am very eager to find out myself
hope this helps

Farout · 2nd March 2008, 05:21 PM

Thank you for your reply, sir.

I will take this into consideration when it comes time to make the purchase.

Take care.

Fishy1500 · 2nd March 2008, 10:25 PM

i just got a symphony system recently and have been using it with logic and haven't encountered any problems at all. Sounds great, works great, I'm very happy with it

Farout · 2nd March 2008, 11:38 PM

Glad to hear that.

I am of the impression that the Symphony and Logic go hand in hand .... and have very few (if any) issues.

Thanks a lot for your input.

Take care.

Cpt.Vagabond · 3rd March 2008, 04:03 AM

Quote:

they have yet to release a PCIe card.

Really? I just ordered one from Vintage King. It's been up for at least a week:Lynx Studio Technology AES16e PCI Express 192 kHz AES/EBU Interface | VintageKing.com

I'd originally planned on the Apogee AD-16X / symphony combo because of its renowned compatibility with mac DAWs, and because it seemed like the only option. But wowee, the price!

I'll let you guys know how it goes as soon as I get it hooked up to the Mac and my incoming Aurora 16.

amd · 3rd March 2008, 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cpt.Vagabond

Really? I just ordered one from Vintage King. It's been up for at least a week:Lynx Studio Technology AES16e PCI Express 192 kHz AES/EBU Interface | VintageKing.com

I'd originally planned on the Apogee AD-16X / symphony combo because of its renowned compatibility with mac DAWs, and because it seemed like the only option. But wowee, the price!

I'll let you guys know how it goes as soon as I get it hooked up to the Mac and my incoming Aurora 16.

Now that's wonderful news!!

Yoda117 · 3rd March 2008, 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cpt.Vagabond

Really? I just ordered one from Vintage King. It's been up for at least a week:Lynx Studio Technology AES16e PCI Express 192 kHz AES/EBU Interface | VintageKing.com

I've seen a few others online offering pre-sales of the product, but this is the first I've seen of it actually on the street. This is good news indeed (I'm looking at picking one up in Boston in about 3 weeks

)

foxyloxy · 3rd March 2008, 06:19 AM

I've been using Logic with the Aurora16 & AES-16 PCI card for a while now and it's been a truly pleasurable experience.

I've been waiting on AES-16e availability before I change my dual 2.0 PowerMac to a Mac Pro (and do the cross-grade on my UAD-1 cards!). The AES-16e will also allow me to run an additional Aurora WITHOUT the need for an extra PCIe card. There is a kit coming out for the AES-16e that will make this possible. I don't want to lose a UAD-1 card and need to run more direct outs from Logic into my analog console, which leaves the factory on Friday... Oops, I think I've wet my trousers!

Keith

Farout · 3rd March 2008, 11:48 AM

Lucky dog.

tiny333 · 3rd March 2008, 05:55 PM

waterboy? hi

i have a rosetta that i love ...mercenary audio do very good deals on them...

the whole apple apogee logic thing is hard to argue with really...

Marineville · 3rd March 2008, 06:35 PM

I'm using a Symphony with a couple of AD/DA16Xs and Logic. It's rock solid and sounds wonderful!

Farout · 3rd March 2008, 06:37 PM

@ tiny333:

Yes.

I am Waterboy on most of the forums which I am a member.... that name was taken here

I have been looking at Mercenary for a little while. They have some items that I am very interested in. I may have to contact them about a Rosetta/Symphony system.

Thank you for your input. I appreciate it.

Farout · 3rd March 2008, 06:39 PM

@ Marineville:

That is a killer setup!

Probably going to be too expensive for me (right now).

But I am glad to know that it works as well I had read on their (Apogee) site.

Thank you for the input.

Farout · 3rd March 2008, 07:06 PM

ok ... please allow me to throw this into the mix:

I was planning on getting a Toft ATB24.

If I do that, then I will probably end up getting the Lynx Aurora - due to money.

I have been looking at a different option: a Mackie Onyx 2480

If I go with that unit, I should be able to afford (at least) the Rosetta 800, or the AD-16x (but will have no DA unit yet).

My question is this: in your opinion - is it more important to worry about the convertors (Apogee or Lynx), or worry about my Mixer/Pre's (Toft or Mackie Onyx)?

I realize that is a bit off-topic, but I would appreciate any opinions.

Take care.

nikkei · 3rd March 2008, 07:53 PM

I purchased an Apogee Ensemble clocked to an Apogee Big Ben when it first came out and was immediately pleased with the results over my previous DA-7 / RME Hammerfall setup.

However, after picking up the Aurora 16 and firewire interface (also clocked to the Big Ben), I can say that I experienced an improvement in punch, clarity, and quality in my recordings and playback.

Though I found the product manuals for the Aurora to be confusing and sub-par, once everything is setup properly on your system, it's a dream to work with.

Farout · 3rd March 2008, 08:02 PM

Great.

Thanks to you.

Farout · 3rd March 2008, 09:01 PM

I must've stumped some people!

audiosuperheroes · 3rd March 2008, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda117

I've seen a few others online offering pre-sales of the product, but this is the first I've seen of it actually on the street. This is good news indeed (I'm looking at picking one up in Boston in about 3 weeks

)

Anyone knows if Llynx gone have some kind of exchange deals? I haven't had my PCI card for more then 5 months and been waiting to upgrade my G5 until the PCIe card came out (which it apparently now have, woa!! :-)
Oh, and!
Have nothing more than good to say about running Logic and AES16/Aurora16. An absolute delight. Highly recommend that combination.
cheers

Farout · 3rd March 2008, 10:22 PM

Cool. Thanks for the input, sir.

I bet there are going to be a lot of people that are interested in an exchange type of deal - from the AES16 to the AES16e. Kinda curious to see how this unfolds.

Thanks again for the reply, sir.

Take care.

Yoda117 · 4th March 2008, 04:34 AM

just a quick head's up, and might be incorrect. I spoke with Doug from SoundPure today and made a comment about the AES16e. Apparently folks are selling them as a pre-order, but they're not available yet. His comment was that Lynx said it would be another 2-3 weeks.

YMMV, but they're usually pretty good on the info.

I'm hoping they have them out when I visit Mercenary in a few weeks

andremattos · 4th March 2008, 04:46 AM

Logic + Apogee

Cpt.Vagabond · 5th March 2008, 03:27 AM

You are correct Yoda. I got an email from the folks at VK saying they didn't have it yet, but would be happy to have it drop-shipped when it comes out in a couple weeks.

It's going to be a very long couple of weeks...

Farout · 5th March 2008, 03:57 AM

Wait long - we will ... um-hm

peterwild · 5th March 2008, 06:36 AM

does anyone know are these PCI Express to PCI Expansion Boxes working?

PCI Express to PCI Expansion Box - PC & Macintosh

and I have Aurora 8 with firecard and no problems with logic pro 8. (MacBook pro, Quad G5)

Farout · 5th March 2008, 12:48 PM

Thank you for the reply, sir.

Beastie · 5th March 2008, 01:00 PM

i say Lynx AES16e w/Aurora 16 as i find the apogee family sound a lil 2 creamy (but hey thats me!)

Also if your considering gettin the toft ATB - hang on!

Checke the trident oram series 8t desks! the eq is soooo good!

peace

PS utlimately go check em out for yourself - coz listenin to everyone else's opinions can leave u confused!

Farout · 5th March 2008, 01:38 PM

Good point. Thanks a lot for the input.

Take care.

Yoda117 · 5th March 2008, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cpt.Vagabond

You are correct Yoda. I got an email from the folks at VK saying they didn't have it yet, but would be happy to have it drop-shipped when it comes out in a couple weeks.

It's going to be a very long couple of weeks...

Spoke with one of the Lynx folks yesterday. End of next week supposedly (direct quote "10 days"). Let's hope they're correct.

ddageek · 6th March 2008, 12:42 AM

Farout/ Waterboy

Apogee symthony's big advantage is going to be low latency!

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2nd March 2008, 04:22 PM	#1
Farout Gear maniac Join Date: May 2007 Location: Baton Rouge, La Posts: 273	Logic with Apogee or Lynx? Hello, all. I realize there are a lot of threads that talk about both Apogee & Lynx products. I spent the better part of lst night reading a lot of them. But I would like to get some opinions and input on something, when using with Logic Studio: Symphony w/Rosetta 800 or Lynx AES16e w/Aurora 16 This isn't a question of which is better (I realize they both have their great points); rather it is a question of the differences between the (2) systems (when running Logic Studio). I know that the Symphony is supposed to work very well with Logic - but it costs a lot of money (which is a factor). I also read a lot of "thumbs-up" replies about the Aurora 16. I need to know which is better suited for Logic, or if the differences are noticeable enough to spend the extra cash and get an Apogee Symphony system. Thanks a lot for your input. Take care.

3rd March 2008, 06:19 AM	#9
foxyloxy Gear Head Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Cape Town Posts: 71	Loving my Logic & Lynx I've been using Logic with the Aurora16 & AES-16 PCI card for a while now and it's been a truly pleasurable experience. I've been waiting on AES-16e availability before I change my dual 2.0 PowerMac to a Mac Pro (and do the cross-grade on my UAD-1 cards!). The AES-16e will also allow me to run an additional Aurora WITHOUT the need for an extra PCIe card. There is a kit coming out for the AES-16e that will make this possible. I don't want to lose a UAD-1 card and need to run more direct outs from Logic into my analog console, which leaves the factory on Friday... Oops, I think I've wet my trousers! Keith __________________ 'I put my pants on just like the rest of you - one leg at a time. Except once my pants are on, I make gold records.' - Bruce Dickinson

3rd March 2008, 06:35 PM	#12
Marineville Gear maniac Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 180	I'm using a Symphony with a couple of AD/DA16Xs and Logic. It's rock solid and sounds wonderful! __________________ Stand by for action - we are about to launch Stingray! Cue irritating bongo music ...

4th March 2008, 04:46 AM	#22
andremattos Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brazil - Amazon (the heart of the world) Posts: 684	Logic + Apogee __________________ Record Engineer - Musician - Producer Vertigo Personal Studio Brazil - Amazon(the heart of the world) http://www.numberonemusic.com/amp

2nd March 2008, 04:54 PM	#2
jenkzy56@ Gear Head Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 50	i think that the aurora 16 is still not ready for primetime with logic studio, if you are using a newer macpro, as they have yet to release a PCIe card. you could of course use one via firewire (they have a firewire card) im sure the mix software that linx uses would probably be fine in conjunction with logic, albeit somewhat different than maestro. as far as speed and efficiency, Symphony is designed to work with logic from the ground up but, who knows what linxs PCIe card will bring to the table when its released. i am very eager to find out myself hope this helps

2nd March 2008, 05:21 PM	#3
Farout Gear maniac Join Date: May 2007 Location: Baton Rouge, La Posts: 273	Thank you for your reply, sir. I will take this into consideration when it comes time to make the purchase. Take care.

2nd March 2008, 10:25 PM	#4
Fishy1500 Gear nut Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 127	i just got a symphony system recently and have been using it with logic and haven't encountered any problems at all. Sounds great, works great, I'm very happy with it

2nd March 2008, 11:38 PM	#5
Farout Gear maniac Join Date: May 2007 Location: Baton Rouge, La Posts: 273	Glad to hear that. I am of the impression that the Symphony and Logic go hand in hand .... and have very few (if any) issues. Thanks a lot for your input. Take care.

3rd March 2008, 11:48 AM	#10
Farout Gear maniac Join Date: May 2007 Location: Baton Rouge, La Posts: 273	Lucky dog.

3rd March 2008, 05:55 PM	#11
tiny333 Gear maniac Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 191	waterboy? hi i have a rosetta that i love ...mercenary audio do very good deals on them... the whole apple apogee logic thing is hard to argue with really...

3rd March 2008, 06:37 PM	#13
Farout Gear maniac Join Date: May 2007 Location: Baton Rouge, La Posts: 273	@ tiny333: Yes. I am Waterboy on most of the forums which I am a member.... that name was taken here I have been looking at Mercenary for a little while. They have some items that I am very interested in. I may have to contact them about a Rosetta/Symphony system. Thank you for your input. I appreciate it.

3rd March 2008, 06:39 PM	#14
Farout Gear maniac Join Date: May 2007 Location: Baton Rouge, La Posts: 273	@ Marineville: That is a killer setup! Probably going to be too expensive for me (right now). But I am glad to know that it works as well I had read on their (Apogee) site. Thank you for the input.

3rd March 2008, 07:06 PM	#15
Farout Gear maniac Join Date: May 2007 Location: Baton Rouge, La Posts: 273	ok ... please allow me to throw this into the mix: I was planning on getting a Toft ATB24. If I do that, then I will probably end up getting the Lynx Aurora - due to money. I have been looking at a different option: a Mackie Onyx 2480 If I go with that unit, I should be able to afford (at least) the Rosetta 800, or the AD-16x (but will have no DA unit yet). My question is this: in your opinion - is it more important to worry about the convertors (Apogee or Lynx), or worry about my Mixer/Pre's (Toft or Mackie Onyx)? I realize that is a bit off-topic, but I would appreciate any opinions. Take care.

3rd March 2008, 07:53 PM	#16
nikkei Gear interested Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tokyo Posts: 20	I purchased an Apogee Ensemble clocked to an Apogee Big Ben when it first came out and was immediately pleased with the results over my previous DA-7 / RME Hammerfall setup. However, after picking up the Aurora 16 and firewire interface (also clocked to the Big Ben), I can say that I experienced an improvement in punch, clarity, and quality in my recordings and playback. Though I found the product manuals for the Aurora to be confusing and sub-par, once everything is setup properly on your system, it's a dream to work with.

3rd March 2008, 08:02 PM	#17
Farout Gear maniac Join Date: May 2007 Location: Baton Rouge, La Posts: 273	Great. Thanks to you.

3rd March 2008, 09:01 PM	#18
Farout Gear maniac Join Date: May 2007 Location: Baton Rouge, La Posts: 273	I must've stumped some people!

3rd March 2008, 10:22 PM	#20
Farout Gear maniac Join Date: May 2007 Location: Baton Rouge, La Posts: 273	Cool. Thanks for the input, sir. I bet there are going to be a lot of people that are interested in an exchange type of deal - from the AES16 to the AES16e. Kinda curious to see how this unfolds. Thanks again for the reply, sir. Take care.

4th March 2008, 04:34 AM	#21
Yoda117 Gear addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 328	just a quick head's up, and might be incorrect. I spoke with Doug from SoundPure today and made a comment about the AES16e. Apparently folks are selling them as a pre-order, but they're not available yet. His comment was that Lynx said it would be another 2-3 weeks. YMMV, but they're usually pretty good on the info. I'm hoping they have them out when I visit Mercenary in a few weeks

5th March 2008, 03:27 AM	#23
Cpt.Vagabond Gear interested Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 26	You are correct Yoda. I got an email from the folks at VK saying they didn't have it yet, but would be happy to have it drop-shipped when it comes out in a couple weeks. It's going to be a very long couple of weeks...

5th March 2008, 03:57 AM	#24
Farout Gear maniac Join Date: May 2007 Location: Baton Rouge, La Posts: 273	Wait long - we will ... um-hm

5th March 2008, 06:36 AM	#25
peterwild Gear interested Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 29	does anyone know are these PCI Express to PCI Expansion Boxes working? PCI Express to PCI Expansion Box - PC & Macintosh and I have Aurora 8 with firecard and no problems with logic pro 8. (MacBook pro, Quad G5)

5th March 2008, 12:48 PM	#26
Farout Gear maniac Join Date: May 2007 Location: Baton Rouge, La Posts: 273	Thank you for the reply, sir.

5th March 2008, 01:00 PM	#27
Beastie Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: UK Posts: 504	SUP i say Lynx AES16e w/Aurora 16 as i find the apogee family sound a lil 2 creamy (but hey thats me!) Also if your considering gettin the toft ATB - hang on! Checke the trident oram series 8t desks! the eq is soooo good! peace PS utlimately go check em out for yourself - coz listenin to everyone else's opinions can leave u confused! __________________ Beastie...................

5th March 2008, 01:38 PM	#28
Farout Gear maniac Join Date: May 2007 Location: Baton Rouge, La Posts: 273	Good point. Thanks a lot for the input. Take care.

6th March 2008, 12:42 AM	#30
ddageek Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: galveston an island on to it's self Posts: 693	Farout/ Waterboy Apogee symthony's big advantage is going to be low latency! __________________ I have had worse days, but hey I've been on fire! Eric Nelson

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