Reaper vs Cubase

[shadyru]

What are your guys' thoughts on reaper compared to cubase? Midi included?

[PhonoquO]

i've tried both, and to be honest reaper is probably the most efficient daw i've ever used! The gui is quite good, and the customizeability is deep. Midi is still it's shortcoming at the moment for me, but things are improving quickly. I won't switch over until it clearly allows me to work more effectively in that program over cubase. The designer is a genious!

[manning1]

shadyru.
there was a long thread recently on GS on this topic.
i use reaper for audio and the other daw in my sig for midi.
but reapers midi has now been coming on strong.
i love both.

[ewegogetemtiger]

I dumped cubendo for reaper...happy with that decision

[shanabit]

Cubase has the MIDI down IMO. Cubase 4.1 here

All Justin has to do is COPY the midi stuff from Cubase and Reapers midi will be fine. This method has worked so far for all the other features, why not the MIDI thing?

Why reinvent the wheel anyway, just take the BEST parts of ALL the DAWS and combine them. Thats what we all really want anyhow. Looks like thats EXACTLY what hes doing.

Ive been keeping up with Reaper just not USING it yet. I keep upgrading but again Im just LOOKING at it. No need to buy it yet. Im still on the Mac anyhoo

[maxy]

I downloaded reaper last night so I haven't spent much time on it but I'm used to Cubase and don't see that reaper has any benifits over cubase. I really love folder tracks and I couldn't figure out how to move the cursor by a measure with a keycommand. Those two things turned me off but I might just be missing something.

[manning1]

maxy..re reap.
with respect that tells me youve hardly had even the most cursory look.
have you even bothered to read a little of the manual ?
thus..bring up the brad sample project.
notice the drums ? in the sample project ? and to the right the folder ?
(hold your mouse over the icon by IO BUTTON.)
with the traks indented , bass/hh etc ?


right clik on everything.
have you yet in the menus ?
help>>keyboard shortcuts ?
if u dont see the value of no dongles in a daw ,
i give up. or the reap routing or the usb aspect and the bundled effects ?
all the major daws are good apps of course these days.

but as with anything new if your not willing to spend a little time
with reap and explore the features its difficult to appreciate it.
i should say i understand . i was sceptical at first many releases back. when i first tried it. then i went "wow". once i worked with it.

[PDC]

Originally Posted by manning1

maxy..re reap.
with respect that tells me youve hardly had even the most cursory look.
have you even bothered to read a little of the manual ?
thus..bring up the brad sample project.
notice the drums ? in the sample project ? and to the right the folder ?
(hold your mouse over the icon by IO BUTTON.)
with the traks indented , bass/hh etc ?


right clik on everything.
have you yet in the menus ?
help>>keyboard shortcuts ?
if u dont see the value of no dongles in a daw ,
i give up. or the reap routing or the usb aspect and the bundled effects ?
all the major daws are good apps of course these days.

but as with anything new if your not willing to spend a little time
with reap and explore the features its difficult to appreciate it.
i should say i understand . i was sceptical at first many releases back. when i first tried it. then i went "wow". once i worked with it.

Manning...again I ask, why can't you type like the rest of us? Why can't you type your thoughts so that they are easy to comprehend? And why beat on a guy who stated that he just downloaded it?

[manning1]

pdc.
myapologies . wasnt my intention to be down on anyone.
as to the typing i'll pm you so u understand.

[PitchSlap]

As of yesterday Reaper 2.1 is out with item based FX like Samplitude!

REAPER v2.100 - January 31 2008
Download: 3.1 MB installer

• preliminary per-take FX support (no automation, limited FX support, but usable)
• action to send all keyboard input to Virtual MIDI Keyboard (ESC cancels it)
• action to open per-take FX for selected item (default binding is Shift+E)
• option to always show "[fx]" on media item takes (prefs/media)
• item quantize: option to quantize end and adjust playrate
• pitchshifter/timestretcher instances are now pooled to use less RAM
• better item edge adjustment behavior when adjusting edit point
• new action: duplicate active take
• when removing item loop section, better preservation of start offset
• opening a item loop section in sound forge now selects the source of the loop
• action/menu item to toggle looping of item media
• alt+click of track fx button removes all fx for track
• alt+click of take fx button removes take fx, drag&drop for take fx button
• JS: fixed serializing configuration saving in certain actions (offline, drag&drop)
• better internal versioning of RPP-UNDO files
• bonus update: reverb/delay tails for item fx (2000ms default)
• bonus update: fixed item take menus

REAPER | Download

[BigJunk]

whoa I hadn't even heard of Reaper before this thread but the concept is quite amazing! does it have full PDC on all inserts and sends?
Junk

[ewegogetemtiger]

Originally Posted by BigJunk

whoa I hadn't even heard of Reaper before this thread but the concept is quite amazing! does it have full PDC on all inserts and sends?
Junk

yes, delay compensation throughout

[henge]

Switched to Reaper from logic. Never used all the midi functionality in logic , so I don't miss it in Reaper.
It's a great audio app . Rock solid on my machine.Also comes with very nice plugs and a great community at the forums.
Imo, a totally professional audio app with a bit more than basic midi capabilities.

[skygod]

I never do any audio on IBM type machines just because how much I detest Emperor Gates the Beloved Shithead and loaded it on my traveling business dell E1505 just for fun. Fun my ass. This thing is rock solid! Justin this is an amazing feat bro, and this is coming from a Nuendo, Cubase, Logic standpoint minus the midi features. Oh well. I have workarounds for that too. I'll be buying the commercial license. Keep up the good work man. Now if I can only figure out which magma chassis to get to make this work on the road with my UAD cards and RME FF800s I think is all doable with this laptop too that I know already works OK with a MacBook Pro ....

Great job!

~skygod~

[lame pseudonym]

I'm going to write the Reaper people and ask them whether I can get an adult version if I pay extra. Everyone says that it's a good app and it's probably exactly what I need but the "Cocko" and "Sux" and "Reaper" stuff puts me off.

Can I just choose to live in a non-dirtbag environment please?

LP

[feyshay]

I understand the odd juvenile comments. Not really needed.
The program has great potential. When unhappy with Cubase 4, I played around wtih Reaper but it crashed a lot. Since then, I try it periodically, still crash happy with plug-ins.
I have no doubt this will be a gem of a program one day. IMO, it is not there yet, and Cubase 4.13 is working for the most part. Cubase lacks some flexibility of routing. Certain processes should be easier, and yet MIDI and audio editing are excellent. I also think their customer support is abysmal.
I will be trying Reaper out periodically and steadily learn a little more of the program. The price is excellent, but IMO is not in the same ballpark as Cubase.

[Jay M]

I think maybe Reaper's low price skews peoples judgment.

If Reaper were a $500 program like Cubase and Logic, would it be praised so highly?

It truly is a great program with a lot of potential. But when I tried it a few months ago it just didn't feel professional. The project I used it for was a TV program. I had a video file as a reference and all the audio tracks.

There were few little problems, but the real killer was that the audio and video kept getting out of sync while I was working. It just felt bad.

I can't remember the other issues, but I already own Vegas and Nuendo. Therefore money is not an object. Reaper just didn't stand up as a professional program.

Reaper's feature set and design philosophy is ideal. It's like they took the best of Vegas and Nuendo to create a brilliant program.

They just need to make it feel better.

~Jay

[JPeters86]

Too bad it's Windows only! Would love to try it on my mac. Looks cool.

[manning1]

re plug in crashes.
as hard as it is to believe ive not had one plug in crash. ever.
but then i'm very carefull testing plug ins.
in certain cases it should be noted sometimes the plug in itself might be the issue.
rather than the host program.

[ewegogetemtiger]

weird regarding crashes. I've only crashed reap a couple of times and that was on v2 release candidate but none since the official release. It doesn't play well with some of my oldest plugins -- from like six or seven years ago...

[ewegogetemtiger]

Originally Posted by lame pseudonym

I'm going to write the Reaper people and ask them whether I can get an adult version if I pay extra. Everyone says that it's a good app and it's probably exactly what I need but the "Cocko" and "Sux" and "Reaper" stuff puts me off.

Can I just choose to live in a non-dirtbag environment please?

LP

"Cockos!" is from a line in the movie Office Space...not a reference to reproductive organs.

You're projecting.

Dirtbags use all kinds of software (and, statistically, most dirtbags would have to be using something other than reaper, no?, since reaper couldn't possibly account for more than 10% of daw software users and I suspect a larger percentage of them have actually paid for their software unlike, I suspect, a very significant percentage of users of cubendo who are running cracks).

Some reaper users may in fact be dirtbags but I don't think reap is *for* dirtbags and using it will not make you one if you're not already one.

For example, I don't see how this representation smacks of 'dirtbag'



Maybe some concerned citizens could ask Justin to make a Bible Thumper version.

Just kidding!

[allencollins]

Reaper is great but VST and VSTI plugins
appear to be more efficient on Cubase

I wonder why?

[SeanBlack]

Originally Posted by JPeters86

Too bad it's Windows only! Would love to try it on my mac. Looks cool.

UPDATED Mar 11 2008 -! v2.108/OSX0.72 mac preview build... - Cockos Confederated Forums

Ive been using Reaper since November and really love it. Ive only had it lock up on me once and that was the first time I ran Guitar Rig 3. Other than that its been great.

[jeronimo]

I've been using Reaper Mac for trial purpose for a while and I have to say stability is not a problem on my system.
I don't think it ever crashed on me.
But, it lacks a lot of thing I use on other DAWs (DP and Logic i.e.) but I'm sure it'll catch up with the official release.
Then I'll buy my license with pleasure!

[JPeters86]

Originally Posted by SeanBlack

UPDATED Mar 11 2008 -! v2.108/OSX0.72 mac preview build... - Cockos Confederated Forums

Ive been using Reaper since November and really love it. Ive only had it lock up on me once and that was the first time I ran Guitar Rig 3. Other than that its been great.

Sweet!

[ewegogetemtiger]

Was this posted already?

Reaper Vs. Sonar Vs. Nuendo
Low Latency Multi-Core Scaling

Guess the big boys have something to learn

D.A.W Bench : D.A.W Performance Benchmarking

[henge]

Pretty impressive on Reapers part.

[thedigitalgod]

Originally Posted by lame pseudonym

I'm going to write the Reaper people and ask them whether I can get an adult version if I pay extra. Everyone says that it's a good app and it's probably exactly what I need but the "Cocko" and "Sux" and "Reaper" stuff puts me off.

Can I just choose to live in a non-dirtbag environment please?

LP

wow.

[SANDS]

Originally Posted by lame pseudonym
I'm going to write the Reaper people and ask them whether I can get an adult version if I pay extra. Everyone says that it's a good app and it's probably exactly what I need but the "Cocko" and "Sux" and "Reaper" stuff puts me off.

Can I just choose to live in a non-dirtbag environment please?




You lost me there, what does that statement mean?


I have been using it a little here and there and so far seems ok on osx, haven't done anything involved yet though, still with cubase, using version 5 right now.

[junior]

Originally Posted by ewegogetemtiger

"Cockos!" is from a line in the movie Office Space...not a reference to reproductive organs.

You're projecting.

Dirtbags use all kinds of software (and, statistically, most dirtbags would have to be using something other than reaper, no?, since reaper couldn't possibly account for more than 10% of daw software users and I suspect a larger percentage of them have actually paid for their software unlike, I suspect, a very significant percentage of users of cubendo who are running cracks).

Some reaper users may in fact be dirtbags but I don't think reap is *for* dirtbags and using it will not make you one if you're not already one.

For example, I don't see how this representation smacks of 'dirtbag'

Maybe some concerned citizens could ask Justin to make a Bible Thumper version.

Just kidding!

I dunno', I think the guy's opinion is legitimate. Why should he be mocked for it? I mean, how many people would even know that "cockos" is a reference to an obscure line from a movie that most people have probably never seen? Are you saying you didn't snicker even a little the first time you heard the name "Cockos"? Come on, I know I did...

FWIW, there are several reasons why he may be put off of Reaper: Maybe he thinks it appears too "unprofessional" for his clients? Maybe he wants to use it in an educational or theological environment but some of the language would be a deal-breaker? Maybe he wants to use it in a corporate environment but isn't comfortable for the same reason? I know the company I work for monitors all internet traffic and visiting a website called cockos.com might send an unintended red flag to the IT department.

I'm jus' sayin'