Mackie C4 with Audio Unit plugins?

F5D · 22nd January 2008, 08:48 PM

I will probably purchase some controllers later this year and I am trying to decide between the new euphonix and mackie control pro systems. I use logic 8.

Does the Mackie C4 support audio unit plugins, for example sony oxford plugins or just logic's own plugins? I would really like to use the c4 also for audio unit plugins in addition to logic plugins. Can you map audio unit plugin parameters to c4 or are they in the order which the c4 gets from logic?

It seems that the euphonix can do almost anything but it shoud be easier to build a console like system using the mcu pro units because they are not so wide.

jbuzz · 22nd January 2008, 09:04 PM

Most Audio unit plugins work with the c4. As a matter of fact i use sony oxford plugs with the c4 extensivly.

It maps the parameters as it gets them from logic automaticly, but u can still customise. I never bothered with the sony though, cause dynamics and eq are mapped and labelled really well on the c4/ and the other plugs have less parameters than the c4 has knobs). Labeling can be a problem with other plugs/e.g. tritone stuff, that i love for their sound, but the parameters are poorly labeled for controllers.

The only plugins that dont work to well on the c4 i came across are stylus and some other softsynth with millions of parameters. With them u can use the logic automapp function though.

One important tip with using the c4 is: set it up as its own controller group. Then u can edit plugin parameters on the c4, while u pan or work on sends on the main unit. I love that part. And that makes the channel strip button on the c4 migthy.

Overall im very very happy with the c4... great controller and a lot more usefull than the main unit when it comes to plugins. The whole package started to make sens in the moment i had the c4 installed.

F5D · 22nd January 2008, 09:29 PM

Thank you for your comments jbuzz!

I would also use URS, powercore and maybe waves plugins. I don't use soft synths much. Do you (or somebody else) know whether these plugins would work with the c4 or not? I guess the c4 can map all logic plugins and synths?

66d35 · 23rd January 2008, 07:41 AM

Works for me.

I don't tend to use many synths, but all the general AU fx plugs I have used so far are fine on the C4.

Andy

22nd January 2008, 08:48 PM	#1
F5D Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 634	Mackie C4 with Audio Unit plugins? I will probably purchase some controllers later this year and I am trying to decide between the new euphonix and mackie control pro systems. I use logic 8. Does the Mackie C4 support audio unit plugins, for example sony oxford plugins or just logic's own plugins? I would really like to use the c4 also for audio unit plugins in addition to logic plugins. Can you map audio unit plugin parameters to c4 or are they in the order which the c4 gets from logic? It seems that the euphonix can do almost anything but it shoud be easier to build a console like system using the mcu pro units because they are not so wide.

22nd January 2008, 09:04 PM	#2
jbuzz Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: germany Posts: 675	Most Audio unit plugins work with the c4. As a matter of fact i use sony oxford plugs with the c4 extensivly. It maps the parameters as it gets them from logic automaticly, but u can still customise. I never bothered with the sony though, cause dynamics and eq are mapped and labelled really well on the c4/ and the other plugs have less parameters than the c4 has knobs). Labeling can be a problem with other plugs/e.g. tritone stuff, that i love for their sound, but the parameters are poorly labeled for controllers. The only plugins that dont work to well on the c4 i came across are stylus and some other softsynth with millions of parameters. With them u can use the logic automapp function though. One important tip with using the c4 is: set it up as its own controller group. Then u can edit plugin parameters on the c4, while u pan or work on sends on the main unit. I love that part. And that makes the channel strip button on the c4 migthy. Overall im very very happy with the c4... great controller and a lot more usefull than the main unit when it comes to plugins. The whole package started to make sens in the moment i had the c4 installed. __________________ www.beansandbacon.com

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22nd January 2008, 09:29 PM	#3
F5D Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 634	Thank you for your comments jbuzz! I would also use URS, powercore and maybe waves plugins. I don't use soft synths much. Do you (or somebody else) know whether these plugins would work with the c4 or not? I guess the c4 can map all logic plugins and synths?

23rd January 2008, 07:41 AM	#4
66d35 Gear nut Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 94	Works for me. I don't tend to use many synths, but all the general AU fx plugs I have used so far are fine on the C4. Andy