Melodyne?

[dannygold]

Anyone using it? I tried the free version that came with Pro Tools LE... very limited in terms of what can be done, but I was impressed at how clear the pitch shifting sounded compared to DP... both can let you transpose a note, but melodyne sounded much much better... I guess it would have to, since that's like what it does... any one use the 250 dollar plugin version? Recommend?

[erock]

I have the standalone verison. I just import the audio file, work on it and then spot to pro tools. I love it. It's so much more natural sounding than Auto-Tune. And takes about 1/3 the time to work with than AT. I don't think I'll use anything else. I haven't tried the quantize feature but I'm sure it can be really useful. I say go for it if you have the dough.

[Johnkenn]

I like it WAAAY more than AT, but are you guys having MD occasionally add some weird artifacts? Like whirrs and clicks and pops?

[dannygold]

I'm trying the demo plugin version... very very good. I wish it did what vocalign does (matches the timing of file a to file b... great for BU voxes or doubling)

[John Suitcase]

The plugin is good, I like it better than the standalone (uno), but I haven't tried the other versions. I find that it works well for fixing little things, though it takes a while to get the hang of all the subtleties. I find that occasionally it'll stop 'recording' in the middle of a pass, so that part of the playback is way out of sync. This only seems to happen if I try to import several tracks at once, so it must be a processing or drive access issue.

Some of the most useful capabilities are hidden in the little drop down menus, like the ability to reduce pitch drift. This can really tighten up backing vocals, and salvage some otherwise unusable vocal takes.

It can sound obvious and fake, but if you're careful with it, it can work some miracles!

[Jenz]

Are you guys kidding? Melodyne completely destroys the sound quality! Even if you just pitch a few cents, an "ess" in a word will sound like the most horrible mp3-conversion. I have tried all versions, and i still can't belive why this is not mentioned in the reviews. Auto Tune doesn't perform formant correction, so it sounds Donald Duck if you pitc a lot, but the sound quality is a trillion times better. I've used Melodyne on a few problem productions, and i had to manually replace the bad sounding parts back to the original. Took me days. And yes, i know how to use it. The idea is great, but algorithm's suck. This thread should be at "Music Computers", certainly not High End, sorry.

[suiseidl]

i think melodyne is way better sounding than autotune. it doesnt make voices sound like "plastic" so much. workflow is much faster than the graphic mode of autotune. only thing it lacks is an auto mode which makes tuning instruments more time-consuming.

[A440]

I use the standalone Studio version a lot, and think it's brilliant. With a little care and practice you can get great results. However, yes there are artifacts from time to time, and if you over do it, it can sound artificial, and yes it does degrade the sound quality a little.

I think the best way to use it is sparingly. Only process the phrases that are noticeably out of tune, create audio files of these phrases only, then drop the phrases into your original audio track. Used carefully this way and you'll get great results.

[Jenz]

I've found Waves Tune to sound much better, and i use i when AT is not doing the job. It's way more transparent than Melodyne. Auto Tune can sound horrible and "plastic" if over used for sure, but it keeps the quality of the recorded signal.

[goldenlotus]

I'm using the plugin. Much faster workflow than the standalone. It sounds very musical to me.

[diatonic]

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[camerondye]

I started using Melodyne first, when I went to check out Autotune I hated it. Melodyne is amazing. You can also make backup harmonies, change timing, vibrato...it is amazing. I think it sounds great also, but to each his own. Uno I think can run on a POS computer, the studio version needs something faster. With Studio, you get the plugin for free also.
cam

[wildpark]

if you like t pain efx

take autotune and waves lt (last one nice too write the tune with a pencil for good workflow)

melodyne studio is nice for audio sequenzing (done all my hiphop tunes with it )

soundwise the best i own

THE CELEMONY SERVICE ARE THE BEST I EVER HAD WITH ALL MY SOFTWARE

NO FLOWERS JUST THE REALETY AND MUCH EXPENSIVE UPGRADES FOR FREE IN THE STUDIO VERSION WOW

but workflow s best are waves tune

now i can live with the artifacts of waves tune


and will sale my

autotune tdm and celemony studio 3.2 version(sorry celemony guys but i wrote 2 years too make a grafical pencil mode how i need for my work will come back if pencil mode there)

if anybody will buy it pm me with realistic offers

[Mike H]

I bought the studio version, got the plug-in free.

I have only used the studio version.
I simply import the files into the studio version..........easy to do.

It has replaced Pitch Doctor.

I find it does an excellent job, and is easy to use.

[pedrodash]

melodyne is great.
i use the studio version in stand alone mode with my notebook and is much easier than recording in another track using a host when tuning vocals...
i still wanna try the waves tune though.

[azzzy]

I use the standalone (have the plug-in but never used it). Yes, there are some artifacts, especially if you do big corrections or screw with the vibrato. Tempo stretch sounds really bad (Cubase tempo stretch sounds much cleaner). But the ease of use is unmatched. I would not go back to any other pitch correction software. At least until others adopt a similar concept of note/blobs.

[erock]

Originally Posted by Jenz

Are you guys kidding? Melodyne completely destroys the sound quality! Even if you just pitch a few cents, an "ess" in a word will sound like the most horrible mp3-conversion. I have tried all versions, and i still can't belive why this is not mentioned in the reviews. Auto Tune doesn't perform formant correction, so it sounds Donald Duck if you pitc a lot, but the sound quality is a trillion times better. I've used Melodyne on a few problem productions, and i had to manually replace the bad sounding parts back to the original. Took me days. And yes, i know how to use it. The idea is great, but algorithm's suck. This thread should be at "Music Computers", certainly not High End, sorry.

I've experienced this also...But its stupid easy to fix. All you have to do is look at the line where the ess or plosive is and make a break where the actual NOTE is, and tune the note, not the ess. Therefore, the ess remains in its original "pitch, " and the note is tuned. Problem solved.

[whitepapagold]

Originally Posted by erock

I've experienced this also...But its stupid easy to fix. All you have to do is look at the line where the ess or plosive is and make a break where the actual NOTE is, and tune the note, not the ess. Therefore, the ess remains in its original "pitch, " and the note is tuned. Problem solved.

Exactly! Its funny cause everytime I read someone bashing Melodyne, its because they DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE IT! But of course nobody ever admits that.....

It makes auto tune sound broken....dfegad

[drundall]

Originally Posted by whitepapagold

Exactly! Its funny cause everytime I read someone bashing Melodyne, its because they DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE IT! But of course nobody ever admits that.....

It makes auto tune sound broken....dfegad

Yeah, when I first used it I thought it sucked. Then I determined to learn all about it and now I love it, especially the fact that I can tune only parts of the note and it's great for getting accidental or out of control vibrato under control.

[Mike H]

Originally Posted by drundall

...........it's great for getting accidental or out of control vibrato under control.

Yes, I am surprised how useful this is.

You have to play around with this, to find the amount of vibrato that sounds the best for the particular note. This can be a big improvement, sometimes.

[John Suitcase]

My biggest complaint is the way the plug-in functions. I wish you didn't have to 'import' the track by playing it in real time, and I wish you could easily make the tuning permanent, so you could save processor cycles by turning the plug-in off. I find I have to export the track, with all my eq and plugs off, with Cubase set to import the track back in, then move it onto the original track (or an adjacent one, if I want to keep the other uneffected track handy.)

Kind of a pain.

[Cabbage]

Generally, I use Melodyne only on a few notes. It does degrade the sound to an extent that I often don't feel it is worth it. But I guess that is inevitable. It seems to me that the artifacts in AT are more apparent when the track is soloed, but in the mix they are masked by the other tracks.

Celemony support is fantastic!

Petter

[Royer121]

I'm currently writing my bachelor thesis about the use of melodyne and beat detective in modern pop music.

I got to do tests with some subjects and worked with the studio version a lot.

All I can say is: If you need a fast fix, neither autotune nor melodyne does better, they both do different things to the material. But getting into details and furthermost correction, that doesn't want to be heard, its Melodyne, that is the clear winner.

Funniest thing is, that the subjects liked the overtuned melodyne version with 0% modulation and drift the most...made me think about todays consumer tastes very much...

Anyhow, I noticed some coloration of the sound with the use of melodyne too and if you just can't stand it, I'd also recommend to automate the Melodyne Bridge/Plugin you're using.

I also tried to get more information about their algorithm used, but unfortunately they don't want to give their secrets to the public..


Greets
Ray

[taperocket]

I used to own Melodyne Uno and I think it sounded pretty terrible compared to Auto Tune and Wave Tune. In fact, I wouldn't use it for anything except background vox and even then extremely lightly. It just doesn't make sense to me why people love it so much, maybe I'm just not great at using it?!

[pedrodash]

Originally Posted by whitepapagold

Exactly! Its funny cause everytime I read someone bashing Melodyne, its because they DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE IT! But of course nobody ever admits that.....

It makes auto tune sound broken....dfegad

Originally Posted by drundall

Yeah, when I first used it I thought it sucked. Then I determined to learn all about it and now I love it, especially the fact that I can tune only parts of the note and it's great for getting accidental or out of control vibrato under control.

thumbsup

[Johnkenn]

Well, since all you guys are Melodyne geniuses, explain to me why - and I swear this happens - you can try to tune something, undo it and a whir or a pop is introduced? I would consider myself as a very experienced in the area of tuning, but Melodyne pisses me off sometimes. (Still not as much as AT)
I use the standalone Uno and import 24/48 files in and then out...Sometimes even doing NOTHING to the file can introduce artifacts. It seems to be in the way Melodyne interprets the audio. For instance, sometimes the same phrase (say in the first chorus and then in the second) is interpreted differently. It's like the program is confused as to which octave to place certain words in the phrase. It will be going along fine, and then all of a sudden, one word will be dropped an octave, and if you try and change it in any way, it destroys the entire phrase...Nobody has this happen?

[Barry Lird]

Originally Posted by Johnkenn

Well, since all you guys are Melodyne geniuses, explain to me why - and I swear this happens - you can try to tune something, undo it and a whir or a pop is introduced? I would consider myself as a very experienced in the area of tuning, but Melodyne pisses me off sometimes. (Still not as much as AT)
I use the standalone Uno and import 24/48 files in and then out...Sometimes even doing NOTHING to the file can introduce artifacts. It seems to be in the way Melodyne interprets the audio. For instance, sometimes the same phrase (say in the first chorus and then in the second) is interpreted differently. It's like the program is confused as to which octave to place certain words in the phrase. It will be going along fine, and then all of a sudden, one word will be dropped an octave, and if you try and change it in any way, it destroys the entire phrase...Nobody has this happen?

YES! Same thing happens to me. Sometime not even words, just parts of a word or note will drop down an octave make it sound unnatural. It's really annoying.

Anyone know how to fix this?

[Johnkenn]

We must not be using it right...

[Tetness]

Originally Posted by Jenz

I've found Waves Tune to sound much better, and i use i when AT is not doing the job. It's way more transparent than Melodyne. Auto Tune can sound horrible and "plastic" if over used for sure, but it keeps the quality of the recorded signal.

Waves Tune is my fave

[John Suitcase]

Originally Posted by Barry Lird

YES! Same thing happens to me. Sometime not even words, just parts of a word or note will drop down an octave make it sound unnatural. It's really annoying.

Anyone know how to fix this?

You have to go in and fix those manually. I forget the terminology, but you can 'reinterpret' a note or phrase manually, to put it in the right octave.

I've had it do this when two mics are used, to record the same exact performance. It must just be the algorithm, very sensitive to the harmonics that are different from mic to mic, etc.