big big data issue

[xl-sander]

hi guys, im really close to a heart attack here, so maybe some of you have suggestions for me


i have still a pt mix system on a g4 dual 1.25 ghz running on os 9.2.2 and logic 6.4.1


i have this hardrive via firewire connected and it didnt want to mount, mac os even asked me to initialise, so i "repaired" it with the first aid program - MISTAKE

the hard drive mounted BUT all data was gone it was blank - apparently first aid deleted the tree

so i got data rescue II and made a thorogh scan on my powerbook osx, and it did find all data - BUT and thats my problem at the moment

logic cant read its sessions - although they even have the logic sign on them -
ALL audio data cant be played ANYWHERE and is marked RED - it seems all data is corrupt now , is there anything i can do to repair the data?!?!

i had just copied all files on that drive to do a backup and then this crash happened - so I have NO other backup to these files-and they are really really important, its work of a year and ill get in trouble with clients etc this is why i spoke of a heartattack - please if anybody can help me on this one!

thx a lot

axl

[Geert van den Berg]

I can understand why you're close to a heartattack.

I never used Data Rescue II, I have always used Disk Warrior, which I think would have worked right after things went wrong.

But I just read a little on Data Rescue and it appears it works similar in that it does not attempt to correct anything on the drive itself. This is correct, right? The saved files are on another external or internal drive, right?

Can't you try to run the Rescue program again?

[xl-sander]

yes you are correct - i read on data rescue page that there are different ABL - some kind of block allocation, and if the files do not work, one should try a different setting until it works, i gues i have something to do now - ill keep you posted

if nothing wors ill try disc warrior

[Geert van den Berg]

I would just make sure nothing changes on the data you're trying to rescue. I would read all the documentation that came with the application before any attempts. Be careful!

The software package you got looks very good, I don't know if Disk Warrior is that much better. If you don't succeed you might want to look for a data rescue company!

[xl-sander]

i have 5 possible abl settings, and NONE seems to work...in one cas the files were not marked red anymore, but still the files wouldnt be played on any system...

[xl-sander]

this is what i found on another forum, i posted there, but it needs to be reviewed by a mod before it will be online, so maybe due to christmas i might have to wait this is why i ask here if anybody know anything of permisson of files? :

In article <5eb25c5a.0401300742.4d1d3f02@posting.google.com>, ghartman
wrote:

> i recently had an external 120 GB firewire fantom drive that became
> corrupted with a new 1.8 Ghz G5. long story short--neither norton nor
> disk warrior were able to do anything but data rescue was able
> basically to get all of the data back that i wanted (about 30 Gigs
> worth) with intact folder structure and the works. amazing.
>
> however--small glitch--i did this data rescue on my dual 2Ghz machine
> at work and though all of the files seem normal, expected file size,
> proper icons and so on--none of the respective files actually work.
> for example, a 119 MB mpeg launches quicktime but quiicktime can't
> play the file or recognize it beyond that. a 12 MB photoshop file
> launches photoshop BUT photoshop can't read the file and displays an
> error message that the file is not a vliad photoshop file. it's as if
> the same very small bit of information is missing from all of the
> files.
>
> any thoughts on what might be going on and what i could do to get this
> data to work after retreiving it using data rescue?
>
> any help greatly appreciated.
>
> geoff
Greetings ghartman
It reads like you have a "permissions" problem. This happened when
your disk recovery apps acted as "root" to save the recovered files. If
you are familiar with the terminal then "ls -al" to examine the files
permissions. You will need to logon as root to change their permissions
to yours.
Kind regards

[Jens]

Check the data resource forks in ResEdit in OS 9. Compare a working Logic document and/or .wav/.aif file and see if it works.

J

[xl-sander]

Originally Posted by Jens

Check the data resource forks in ResEdit in OS 9. Compare a working Logic document and/or .wav/.aif file and see if it works.

J

ok i see resedit seems to be a software i guess , where can i get it?

BTW with a restored logic file logic days its a damaged song and that it could not find any fragments

[xl-sander]

ok i found resedit will try tomorrow and let you know --- also i will try disc warrior, because i have like thousands of files - to edit all of em by resedit might take a year im afraid...in any case ill keep you posted here

thx for your support

[MDRuss]

Good choice using Data Rescue! I use DR2 all the time as my primary go-to software on Data Recovery jobs. A few points worth mentioning...

What version of DR are you using? You SHOULD be using 2.1.1 assuming you are running 10.4.

DO NOT run Disk Warrior! DR2 is infinitely better equipped for this!

Are you running Leopard?

What kind of hard drive?

If you give me some more info there is a good chance I can help you get through this...I perform Data Recovery on a daily basis, and while I'm no DriveSavers magician (those guys are the most incredible digital Saviors around!), at this juncture you are far from stuck!


Let me know!

[xl-sander]

far from stuck?`ohh yes i love to hear that, ok here we go then:

its data rescue II 1.1.1, the hd is a samsung HD320LD, the powerbook runs 10.4.11

the drive was used under os 9.2.2. per firewire in my G4 MDD dual 1.25ghz

i have tried all Data Rescue ABL settings - in some cases the files were at least not red marked but did not work either.

thx for help!

[MDRuss]

Well I'll try to help as much as not working on the drive itself and in my shop will allow!

First things first - and this is probably a negligible point.
Data Rescue2 is best run on a 10.4.8 or .9 system. Whether this will affect your scans? Possibly. It has affected mine before.

Now here we come to darker issues:

Data Rescue 2 does NOT support the recovery of Logic Audio files, only the audio files that the session contains. What this means to you is that even though the Logic files have seemingly been recovered they are not guaranteed to actually *work*. Awesome right? One thing you can try is to go into DR2 prefs, select "scan engine" and check the box labeled "Add rsrc fork". Now try again, see if this fixes it...some programs will refuse to open files missing the rsrc fork.

This is where I think the support I can lend will wane. The next steps involved depend very seriously on what exactly is WRONG with the drive that caused it to crash in the first place. If the drive has, say, a bad controller then it is easy enough to swap that out with a known good controller, assuming you have access to the exact make/model/firmware revision controller board. This is usually way too much to ask of someone who isn't in the data recovery business.

More than likely if all your data did come through alright, but the Logic files just won't open..then you are looking at scenario 1. Logic files are NOT supported. neither are PT by the way. Only a few file types such a iTunes libraries, Quicken files, Microsoft Office, etc. Like I said, you can TRY to add the rsrc forks and see where that gets you.

As far as it being a permissions error, I highly doubt it. If it was permissions related the file would refuse to open at all, with osx giving you the error of "you do not sufficient privileges to access this file".

Hope this helps?

Best of luck, let me know if you want any additional support I'll do whatever I can from halfway across the world!

[xl-sander]

just tried with the fork box xhecked all ALB settings available from 0-6. i recovered a mp3 and a aif file each time - still same prob unfortunately...

[MDRuss]

Ahh I'm sorry to hear that. This is why RAID backups of client info is critical. There should always be multiple copies for just such an occasion as this.

Not to beat a dead horse...I'm sure you know that but it definitely deserves repeating, especially for everyone here who isnt backing up...

The only thing I can think of at this point would be to call DriveSavers (or equivalent company) and see what they can do for you. They absolutely have the best shot at getting things, they have recovered data from sunken ships and burned down buildings for God's sake! Of course, they cost a pretty penny, and they might not even be able to get a working session file back.

I don't mean to give up on you, I just wish I had the drive in front of me, maybe I could help more. But as it stands I cant think of anything else you could do except possibly try another software... File Salvage is pretty awesome in my experience.

[xl-sander]

i recovered yesterday night whith fork box checked from a saved scan file - i will run the thorough scan again with the box already checked before scanning , maybe this makes a difference.

[George Necola]

hm, seems like the headers of the files are gone bad.

I will think about it again.. I did something with a FAT32 formated memorystick once.. but that was easy..because of FAT format.

I know you have other problems.. but what is the car doing in your signature? :D are you selling a mercedes?

[xl-sander]

no its just my baby, which i have alterned over the years - actually it is featured in a mercedes magazin this month in germany - its just my hobby


and yes any help for my problem is appreciated a lot!

this time i had data rescue to scan with the box already checkend but i used "deleted files" scan - lets see if i am more lucky this time

and i got tech tool pro now, imma try< that if data rescue fails again


damit i just cant belive that a 10 sec action by first aid made that happen...